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riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 08:00 PM Oct 2013

The man who set himself on fire

The horrible incident of the man setting himself on fire in DC last week, after dousing himself with gasoline, had been haunting me. He seems to have been forgotten already by the public, only giving a name and age (64) and that his family said he "battled mental illness". He was married, a father of 3, and neighbors said he was a "good and kind man". He even had the grace to say "thank you" to those who tried to help him, in spite of his devastating injuries.

I read he gave a "sharp salute" towards the capital before he lit the flames, and I had a feeling in my gut, that along with his age, I just had a feeling. I had to know more.

John Constantino, 64, was an active-duty Marine serving in Vietnam from December 1968 until May 1973, according to the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs.

http://www.courierpostonline.com/article/20131009/NEWS01/310090054/UPDATE-Mt-Laurel-vet-who-set-himself-fire-had-served-during-Vietnam-War?nclick_check=1

We will never know what those five years were like for him, what demons he fought all these years. My Dad was a POW, and I know the generational trauma of war. The war never ended for him, or his family, his children, his grandchildren, will always carry the war with them.
Rest in Peace, John Constantino, rest in peace.

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The man who set himself on fire (Original Post) riverwalker Oct 2013 OP
Very sad. enlightenment Oct 2013 #1
Rest in Peace, John Constantino, rest in peace. seabeyond Oct 2013 #2
Rest in Peace, Mr. Constantino... ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #3
"He seems to have been forgotten already by the public" BumRushDaShow Oct 2013 #4
May he rest in peace. I miss the anti-war songs. The conservatives own the media. nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #5
They are still being made. quakerboy Oct 2013 #25
I just shed a tear malaise Oct 2013 #6
This has been a local story.. HipChick Oct 2013 #13
I hope we find out more about him. marble falls Oct 2013 #7
R.I.P., brother pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #8
Don't you just know... Link Speed Oct 2013 #20
The Buddhist monks in Viet Nam Half-Century Man Oct 2013 #9
That was the first thing I thought of ashling Oct 2013 #15
Seems a likely motive for his actions, to me. grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #35
Rest in peace,sir... secondvariety Oct 2013 #10
War fucks people up... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #11
As long as profiteers gain from war, peace will never have a chance. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #30
"War Is Not The Answer" dougolat Oct 2013 #32
Thanks for your research. I was wondering jazzimov Oct 2013 #12
Forgotten so much already go west young man Oct 2013 #14
I posted to the original thread ...... Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #16
May you find peace sir, prayers to you and your family benld74 Oct 2013 #17
there was virtually not a single story on any of our major hopemountain Oct 2013 #18
. libodem Oct 2013 #19
thank you Voice for Peace Oct 2013 #21
Thanks for posting this. Stinky The Clown Oct 2013 #22
Oh no ! janlyn Oct 2013 #23
"Will the Self-Immolation in DC Spark a Tunisian Uprising Here?" HomerRamone Oct 2013 #24
RIP now Marine. bluesbassman Oct 2013 #26
So damn sad. avaistheone1 Oct 2013 #27
Tragic. blkmusclmachine Oct 2013 #28
Semper fi, Marine Recursion Oct 2013 #29
May he rest in peace. silvershadow Oct 2013 #31
thank you for following up and letting us know. RIP N/T SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2013 #33
So sad. Rest in peace, sir. nt DLevine Oct 2013 #34
Rest in Peace, John Constantino Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2013 #36
As mom would say and now I say... Javaman Oct 2013 #37
May he find the peace he never found in life... mountain grammy Oct 2013 #38
''Thank you.'' Octafish Oct 2013 #39
RIP cantbeserious Oct 2013 #40
and 40 years from now Enrique Oct 2013 #41
+1 Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #43
Incidents like this and all those killed or suffering major trauma fighting in Korea, indepat Oct 2013 #42
Very sad. Rest in peace, hero John. LiberalLoner Oct 2013 #44

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
1. Very sad.
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 08:05 PM
Oct 2013

War. The unwanted gift that keeps on giving.

Sympathies to his family; I hope he found peace, at last.

BumRushDaShow

(128,435 posts)
4. "He seems to have been forgotten already by the public"
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 08:10 PM
Oct 2013

Since he was from Mt. Laurel, NJ, which is in the Philly media market, his brief story has been covered here. However the stories indicated that his family asked for privacy, so I don't think anyone wanted to push the publicity any further on this sad story.

My deepest sympathies to anyone who suffered or suffers PTSD from that or any of our other wars and thank you for your service.

quakerboy

(13,916 posts)
25. They are still being made.
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 01:34 AM
Oct 2013

I hear them mostly in hiphop/rap settings now.

I am gratified I am not the only one who didn't just dismiss this guy from memory. Ive been wishing i knew more about who he was and why he might have done what he did since it happened. I figured I would wait out "current events" and then go back to it.

 

Link Speed

(650 posts)
20. Don't you just know...
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 10:20 PM
Oct 2013

most of mine went out via suicide-by-Cops, or self, or that old bitch that just never let go of us.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
9. The Buddhist monks in Viet Nam
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 08:43 PM
Oct 2013

used that method to protest the war. My father said that was a sight which could never be forgotten.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
11. War fucks people up...
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 09:09 PM
Oct 2013

it is not natural to see a friend's head explode. Unless you are a psychopath it will damage you.

jazzimov

(1,456 posts)
12. Thanks for your research. I was wondering
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 09:25 PM
Oct 2013

what was behind that. I remember seeing images of Buddhist monks protesting war by setting themselves on fire and just sitting there as if they were in complete bliss while they burned. But they were protesting and left no doubt what what they were protesting. This horrible act brought back those images, but it wasn't obvious what he was protesting.

Maybe that was the purpose - to bring back those images to those who can remember.

RIP John Constantino. Whatever your message, may it never be forgotten.

 

go west young man

(4,856 posts)
14. Forgotten so much already
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 09:31 PM
Oct 2013

that the actual video from the guy who filmed it has only received 60 views of the video on you tube. Warning this is the video, it is graphic, and disturbing so please be warned.

Obviously this man was mentally ill to do such a thing but the social commentary of of the man filming and the people posting comments is important as we live in a society where things like this are not properly examined. The man needed help in many ways. He obviously did not receive it.
 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
16. I posted to the original thread ......
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 09:39 PM
Oct 2013

13. Two days in a row, desperate people are committing desperate acts in DC!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=611340

Got this response imeddiatly from DU'er onenote (says it all)

25. Silly you to associate them without any evidence
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=611377

Yes I book marked it onenote! Got your answer now?



Fair winds and following seas shipmate.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
18. there was virtually not a single story on any of our major
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 09:51 PM
Oct 2013

pacific news papers... i first read about it on saturday in a brief headline on yahoo. truly, our news is censored.

rest in peace, our brother. you will be remembered.

janlyn

(735 posts)
23. Oh no !
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 10:57 PM
Oct 2013

I told friends that I was afraid it would turn out to be a veteran ! I was so hoping that wouldn't be the case. That makes me feel so bad !!!! My Dad was a Vietnam vet.
It affected every aspect of our lives when I was growing up. I once said to someone when they asked me what year my dad came home, was 1984.
My dad was one of the lucky ones. He finally got help and things were better. I remember when he left, I was three. I was on his lap and he told me he loved me, my dad never said he loved me again until 1984.
I don't let most things get me down but that poor man and what he did make me heart sick !

HomerRamone

(1,112 posts)
24. "Will the Self-Immolation in DC Spark a Tunisian Uprising Here?"
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 11:56 PM
Oct 2013
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/278-76/19780-will-the-self-immolation-in-dc-spark-a-tunisian-uprising-here

If the man did indeed douse himself in gasoline and light himself ablaze over the disenfranchisement of millions of black voters like himself due to the Supreme Court's actions, his sacrifice can and must be a rallying cry for all Americans to demand the right to vote without going through the burdensome, costly, unconstitutional process of getting a photo ID as a human right, guaranteed for all Americans. We have the right to know this man's name and his motives, just as much as we have the right to be able to have access to the vote and to have our votes counted in a transparent, democratic process.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
42. Incidents like this and all those killed or suffering major trauma fighting in Korea,
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 03:16 PM
Oct 2013

Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Iraq again, among others, are but small prices our government has willingly paid to stop the spread of the evil communism, keep the dominoes from falling, teach the Cubans a lesson, capture a bad-ass dictator-buddy, for the temerity to invade our buddy having skedaddles of oil, and to wipe foreign terraism off the face of the earth, are but small prices willingly paid by those in power.

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