I think we should take the short term deal now that cuts to Obamacare is off the table ..

[srican69]

We have already given everything up we can - so there isn't much more that pukes can get ...

So I think this is really a face saving maneuver for them and we should let them.

If they act smart -then we are back to where we currently are and the ball will be back in their court.


Agree?

[wilt the stilt]

1. nope

I think they are caving. now play hardball. 1 year cr and budget ceiling.

[Buddha_of_Wisdom]

2. No. I don't want to wait six weeks and see the Republicans hold our livelihood hostage again.

No. I want a full term deal and 95% cut on both of the Republican porks - MIC and Oil & Gas. Divert the funds to social programs and jobs creation.

And then I want the Republicans to resign en-masse creating vacancies that can give the gavel to Pelosi. The replacements will be about 75% Democratic.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

17. Sounds like reasonable demand you got there

[Little Star]

3. They got themselves into this mess......

and they can figure their own way out. Dumb asses they are.

But the president knows more than I do and I will support any decision he makes.

[displacedtexan]

20. And what will they demand next time if they get away with this deal?

Hell, no. No deals with these assholes.

[jberryhill]

4. Put down the crack pipe

Yeah, let's do this again in a few weeks instead of running a country and growing an economy.

How about R's actually negotiate the freaking budget itself over the next year, eh?

[cali]

5. you mean this dog shit deal? Fuck NO.

House Republicans gathered Thursday morning to discuss a plan to lift the government’s statutory borrowing limit temporarily to allow for negotiations on a package of deficit reduction and tax reform proposals that could lead to a reopening of the government and an end to the threat of government default.

House Republican leaders jumped on the plan, presented on Wednesday by Representative Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin, chairman of the House Budget Committee. Meantime, a group of Republican senators has begun meeting with Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader, to find a bipartisan solution to the twin fiscal impasses.

The senators are examining a year-long resolution funding the government at levels that reflect automatic spending cuts known as sequestration, but with added flexibility to help government agencies and departments deal with the tight budgets. The debt ceiling would also be raised.

A repeal of a tax on medical devices would lend a face-saving fig leaf for conservatives trying to take a bite out of the president’s health care law. And Republicans are eying new income verification procedures to limit access to the health exchanges under the new law.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/11/us/politics/debt-limit-debate.html

[seabeyond]

23. Fuck the cooling off. They are fuckin adults acting like kids. They have a job. Grow the fuck up

WhAt do you mean cooling off period. Geeeeez

[lostincalifornia]

28. "Grow the fuck up". Maybe you should grow the fuck up. If you cannot even carry on a conversation

without telling me to "grow the fuck" that says very little for your persuasion skills.

After listening to the rethugs press conference I have reconsidered that extension is futile. The only solution is demand a clean bill period. You cannot deal with dishonest people

[seabeyond]

29. Reading comprehension. I was talking exclusively about the repugs holding gov hostage.

Where? Anywhere in my post did I fuckin address YOU.

[seabeyond]

36. i am referring to the repugs as kids and telling them to grow the fuck up. seems clear. nt

[Pretzel_Warrior]

14. Nope. Not that deal. They can go fuck themselves with that deal

But if they offer a straight up short term debt limit increase with no strings, Dems/Obama should take it even if there is no clean CR passes to open the government.

[trumad]

6. You put your foot on their neck and only move it when they quit moving

[ChairmanAgnostic]

9. could we wait 10 minutes before removing it?

[boston bean]

7. This is tough because it's a question of optics too.

I would prefer he not accept. but if he doesn't, the blame could easily begin to shift to dems.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

8. no. that simply delays the core problem.

We would face the identical problem soon, and by then they would come up with a whole new attack that would potentially be even worse.

[walkerbait41]

11. We have lost haft our income

On Oct. 17 we may lose the other haft NO DEAL NO WAY NEVER

[BumRushDaShow]

21. And what about re-opening the government

which was NOT included in the "deal"? Where hundreds of thousands of us are not getting a fucking paycheck?

[Myrina]

13. Nein. Nope. Non.

n/t

[WilliamPitt]

16. No. No no no no no.

No.

[Agnosticsherbet]

18. A short term deal to approve debt limit extension for six weeks doesn't open the government.

It staves off default but does not open the government.

[jsr]

19. Hell No.

[BumRushDaShow]

22. NO. Reopen the government and raise the debt ceiling. No strings. nt

[AgingAmerican]

24. No way

Extortionists should never be allowed to save face.

[bigwillq]

25. No. They need to fully fund the government.

That's the only way.

They have the votes to do it. So, DO IT!

[ZRT2209]

26. NO. THE GOVERNMENT IS STILL SHUT DOWN. WHEN WILL THAT END??

[DCBob]

27. I think the President already said he was open to a short term deal with no strings...

so I think its a done deal... if no strings.

[TBF]

31. Absolutely not -

Repeat after me:

I WILL NOT NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS

No deal.

[Blue Owl]

32. Stockholm Syndrome?

I say ZERO sympathy for these treasonous criminals and their evil plans.

ZERO.

[Kablooie]

34. Absolutely not!!!!! Ridiculous!

It gives the Republicans the upper hand because they still hold all the guns to the country's head and it guarantees at least a month more of world financial unease over the repeat of this whole debacle.

[TroglodyteScholar]

37. Disagree

The ACA was always off the table. Just because House thugs wanted it there...well, that means squat. It. Is. Law.

[CK_John]

38. Do you really believe ACA will ever off the table, just like SS since FDR times is off the table.

[onyourleft]

39. No.

We really don't need to have this scenario again in a few weeks.

[Liberalynn]

40. If we do that then we have no leverage to get them to reopen the government

[Owl]

42. No.