I don't care what politics an actor has

[quinnox]

if he is good in movies and entertaining, that is all I need. I don't give a damn what his politics might be.

[Iggo]

1. I care.

But it won't stop me from watching their movies.

[TheDebbieDee]

53. I care, too. I'm just thankful that most of my

favorite entertainers are Democrats!

[StopTheNeoCons]

69. I care, and I won't watch hate-mongering right wing actors..nt

[loli phabay]

2. yup same with all artists for me.

[quinnox]

4. exactly

all artists -- writers, actors, painters, directors, etc

[loli phabay]

7. only caveat is I wish they would not do it, but thats free speech

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

79. Not do what? Paint? Write? Direct?

[loli phabay]

83. no go off on political rants or bat shit crazy

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

87. Oh. Well neither the OP nor the post you replied to mentioned doing any

of that, so saying "I wish they would not do it," didn't make sense.

[loli phabay]

88. no problem was just talking about artists in general

[Kingofalldems]

5. Right.

[Kingofalldems]

3. Except when he spreads false information and slander on Twitter.

[Wait Wut]

6. It depends.

For the most part, it doesn't matter. But, if they're an off the hook nutjob, it does.

Craig T. Nelson was on my TV for some reason a few nites ago. I wasn't watching it, but I heard his voice while sitting at my computer. I had flashes of his idiocy bouncing around my brain. It's a bit distracting.

Chuck Norris can go away. Wouldn't miss him. Steven Segal could hitch a ride with him. They'd better buy a bus 'cause there are a few others I'd send along.

[markpkessinger]

20. None of those three is what I would call a great, nor even particularly good, actor n/t

[Wait Wut]

37. Nope.

OP didn't specify 'great'. However, someone I would have considered at least 'good' would have been Mel Gibson. I tried to sit through The Patriot a few months ago and couldn't focus on the movie. The entire Mad Max series of films is lost to me, forever.

If I was forced to come up with other examples, I'm sure I could.

[Ranchemp.]

49. I thought Mel Gibson was great in Edge of Darkness.

[quinnox]

52. he was good in that

I agree.

[ProfessorGAC]

55. Segal?

What other actor has been in, and directed and helped write two movies where the bad guys were industrial polluters?

He's done two movies where the bad guys were crooked politicians and government insiders.

And he's done two movies about dirty cops.

I think people tend to lump him in with other action heroes, haven't actually watched his movies and assume he's another Norris or Schwartzenegger politically. His choice of movie themes seem to suggest otherwise.
GAC

[Wait Wut]

66. He's a RWNJ.

This is just one of his hits. He was also planning on running for office (GOP) at some point. Took a bunch of Republicans to Russia.
As far as his choice of roles, that's why they call it 'acting'.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/steven-seagal-trains-arizona-volunteers-school-safety-article-1.1260160

[dsc]

91. but he did also direct and help write

both of which suggest he believes in the themes to a greater extent than merely being an actor.

[Wait Wut]

92. Ahhhhh...so THIS is the reason for the DUMail!!!

Tell ya what, next time you decide to send me a DUMail calling me a teabagger, FOX news watcher and RWer because I think some random actor is a complete tool and RWNJ, do more research than what you see on TMZ. Another thing, if your opinion of me is based on how I feel about Steven Seagal, you should hear my opinions of some other 'fine actors' like Seagal.

I know you said it took you '6 minutes' to find your links, but I win 'cause I found MORE links in LESS than 6 minutes!!!!

Damn...one...more...thing...

You accused me of 'hiding' from this discussion. Guess what? I didn't. I just completely lost interest. I find other things much more interesting than ol' Steve's 'career'. But, someone accusing me of hiding in a PRIVATE MESSAGE is freakin' gold, dude/dudette!!!!

So there. I replied to you. Happy? Gee, I sure hope Steve knows you're his biggest fan ever.

http://www.contactmusic.com/news/steven-seagal-s-political-bid-revealed_3570360

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/06/how-steven-seagal-helped-gop-stop-worrying-and-love-russia/65804/

http://kosmo.hubpages.com/hub/Is-Actor-Steven-Seagal-the-Biggest-Jerk-in-Hollywood

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/steven-seagal-trains-arizona-volunteers-school-safety-article-1.1260160

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/08/31/actor-steven-seagal-sued-for-driving-tank-into-arizona-home-killing-puppy/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gageskidmore/sets/72157631868053319/detail/

http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2011/08/seagal-watch-seagal-photographed-with-joe-the-plumber

http://archives.politicususa.com/2011/10/17/well-armed-kemosabe-steven-seagal-to-protect-mexican-border.html

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Edit to add your Mail, just in case you can't remember what you said.

Well, it's obvious you're a Fox News type.

It took me 6 minutes to find out that he put 5 million of HIS OWN MONEY into both of those movies.

Two other posters agreed with me. But, no. You have an opinion just like some teabagger and the opinion flies in the face of the ACTUAL DATA.

You had an opinion but you didn't let the facts get in your way. It took me SIX FUCKING MINUTES to find this information. You sure you are somewhere who cares about the truth?

Two other posters replied to you and supported my position. And you ran away and hid.

Nice going tough guy.

[Liberalynn]

77. I kind of feel the same way you do

It depends on how nutty they get about it.

[Hoyt]

8. It does make some difference to me if an entertainer is right wing, but won't "boycott" most.

[dipsydoodle]

9. I don't care either.

.

[Barack_America]

10. You don't have to work with him.

His politics won't affect your willingness to watch him pretend to be someone else for 2 hours, fine. But his politics might impact who is willing to work with him, often being himself, in extremely close quarters for an extended period of time. I think that is also fine. Would you sign up for a cross-country drive with a rabid right-winger?

His difficulties in Hollywood might have less to do with consumers paying to see his movies, than with other artists not wanting to work with him. His outspokenness in the media suggests he probably expresses his opinions in day-to-day interactions as well.

I'm sure there are conservative actors that might not sign on to a project with Ben Affleck, for example.

[Kingofalldems]

14. Based on his frequent daily tweets I have no doubt

he is a loudmouth right winger on set also.

[awoke_in_2003]

58. Are we talking about the dumb Baldwin brother? nt

[Kingofalldems]

59. No. Woods.

[Ranchemp.]

11. Ditto.

I could care less about what any entertainers politics are, if they do quality work, I'll watch them, if not, then I don't.

[leftstreet]

12. Most 'actors' today are just unskilled celebrities

Hope I don't get flamed for saying that


But they make their living from notoriety, regardless of where the chips fall


There aren't many truly skilled or talented actors, but those who are tend to say little about politics

[quinnox]

15. I'm old school, and think the new generation is pretty lacking

Its hard for me to think of a young actor I like these days.

[markpkessinger]

25. Same here . . .

. . . and the handful of "young" actors I like are mostly at least 40!

[quinnox]

33. me too

Hell, even Matt Damon is past 40!

[FSogol]

32. You must not enjoy good movies then. How about these actors around/under 25?

Emile Hirsch
Ezra Miller
Saoirse Ronan
Chloë Moretz
Jennifer Lawrence
Evan Rachel Wood
Emma Stone
Michael B. Jordan

[LanternWaste]

70. We often dismiss that which proceeds us.

Far too often, we often dismiss that which proceeds us.

Granddad used to say that no actor was worth their salt unless they'd done Vaudeville for a least five seasons.

Today, we still hear the same refrain in minor variations.

[FSogol]

80. True. The actors of the past look better because we only remember the good ones and

forget all the turkeys.

[el_bryanto]

29. I don't really agree

I do agree that Hollywood has lost the idea of a Character actor with the fall of the studio system, but there are still plenty of really talented actors. And every generation has had it's share of coasters - if you pulled out the list of the top 20 grossing actors of any year you'd see a few names that are largely forgotten now.

But I can certainly list 10-15 actors and actresses that are generally doing good and interesting work (even if individual performances might be lousy - every actor is in a few duds).

Bryant

[fitman]

13. I don't do boycotts at all

whether it's watching an actor or buying a good from a co..boycotts are worthless and don't do anything-only .000028% of people participate in those anyway.

.now I am speaking in a generality..I won't buy Limabugh's Two by Tea or a book from a RW author..but if say conservative Janine Turner or Bo Derek is in a movie I will watch it...as long as they are not shrill about their beliefs and try to ram it down my throat.

[quinnox]

17. same here

I don't do boycotts either.

[otohara]

21. Boycotting Fast Food & Soda

Makes you healthier...

I boycott shit foods and toxic sugary drinks...

[fitman]

23. Same here

Don't do pop or junk food but do have a cheat meal on occasion

[liberal_at_heart]

16. I agree.

[Kingofalldems]

18. He claimed he would never work in Hollywood again

which seems not to be true as he works on Family Guy. And the creator of Family Guy, Seth Macfarlane is as liberal as they come.

[quinnox]

19. I didn't really have James Woods in mind for this OP, to be honest

he is a character actor, not a major star. I had other actors known to be conservative in mind, like Schwarzenegger or Bruce Willis or Clint Eastwood.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

22. Schwarzenegger and Eastwood are somwhat progressive for Repugs

Or at least Libertarian. Both have spoken in favor of gay marriage.

[quinnox]

28. yep, this is true

And they both are way past their prime, but still going at it, in various ways. Eastwood directing, and Arnold getting back into movies.

[markpkessinger]

34. But as for acting ability . . .

. . . Eastwood has his good moments, but Schwarzenegger . . . don't get me started!

[quinnox]

50. he can't act, but he had mega star power

not so much anymore, but the young Arnold was a bona fide movie star.

[RebelOne]

82. Ah, but what a body the young Arnold had. n/t

[RebelOne]

78. I have always been a fan of both of them no matter their politics. n/t

[loli phabay]

85. arnie is conan and the terminator, and i love eastwood in all his movies

From harry callahan to the pale rider.

[Kingofalldems]

24. The difference is they don't spread lies and disinformation

on a daily and sometimes hourly basis. So on that part I agree with you.

[ElboRuum]

26. That's a very mature attitude.

I'm with you on this.

[Junkdrawer]

27. I don't care what acting my politician does...

I still don't buy the bullshit.

[otohara]

30. I Won't Spend One Dime to See Wingnut

Actor...

Fuck em!

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

86. There are more than enough artistic projects with non-RWers to keep

me fully entertained.

The RW actors, musicians, etc? Don't want 'em. Don't need 'em. Yeah, fuck 'em.

Especially modern country musicians. Horrible, maudlin, "I'm more 'merkin, honest, hard working, and moral than you" lyrics. Ugh.

Love Hank Williams. Can't stand junior. Based entirely on on the music, as I don't know what Senior's politics were and I'd despise Junior's music no matter what his politics. But then, no one but an RWer would make that crap.

[RebelOne]

89. I won't spend any money on their movies.

I just wait for them to come on TV.

[Dawson Leery]

31. The country music community lost that privilege after they way they treated the Dixie Chicks.

They gave Hank Jr. a standing ovation for saying much worse about Obama than the Chicks said about Bush.

[quinnox]

47. not into country myself, so

can't really comment. I have basically always hated country music.

[MicaelS]

67. The lesson of the Dixie Chicks is don't ...

Shit on your audience's deeply held belief system and then expect to be received with open arms, especially by the people putting money in your pocket.

Country Music fans did exactly what Progressives often clamor to do. They organized a Boycott, and it made a big difference. The Chicks have done ONE album since then, and I doubt they will every do another together. Even the sisters have distanced themselves from Maines with their Courtyard Hounds duo.

Many Progressives had never even heard of the Chicks until Maines opened her mouth. As much derision has been expressed here for Country Music, it seems Progressives didn't care before, and still don't like Country Music. Well that is their loss. At least with Country Music, I know I can hear a story with some human feelings and emotions in it.

Do I love the Dixie Chicks music, yes. Do I have their albums, yes. Do I still listen to them, absolutely. Maines has a glorious voice. The sisters are consummate musicians.

But I also think Maines behaved like a fucking idiot. But that doesn't stop me from deriving real pleasure from their artistry.

[LTR]

68. Don't shit where you eat

Earlier this year, folk singer Michelle Shocked launched into a nasty fundie homophobic tirade on stage. Funny thing is, this was in San Francisco and I would expected a large percentage of her audience to be gay or lesbian. Whatever still existed of her near-dead career pretty much ended that night.

Being passionate about one's beliefs is one thing, but offending your fans is another. Just ask Lars Ulrich. I'm sure many Metallica fans are still a bit pissed at one of their idols calling them thieves.

[MicaelS]

72. I am shocked (pun intended)

That any artists in this day and age would make a homophobic tirade anywhere. Especially in SF.

All three incidences highlight the problem when artists let their mouths runaway.

[Dawson Leery]

74. That is not the point.

The point is the hypocrisy of the right.
"Respect" for Presidents only exists for them so long as it is a white conservative.

The core country "music" fan base are well embedded into the tea party. The same should be stated for contemporary christian.

They are tories, if you are not in the club, then you are shunned and condemned. Ask KD Lang and Chely Wright what happened when their sexual orientation was discovered.

Any derision of the genre has been well earned. Clearly you listen, so you know that country is their own stereotype.

[DevonRex]

35. I care once he crosses the line into racist swill. And if he's so vocal and visible about it that

It's all you can think of instead of enjoying a movie. Then I care. I don't pay racists to get richer if I can help it. And I sure don't pay to be entertained just to sit there thinking about the racist thing some fucking stupid actor said. I just read his Twitter feed. It's full of shitty comments I would walk out on if he said them in a political speech. I can't unread them. He wrote them. He can go make movies with Eastwood.

[Tien1985]

36. To each his own.

I don't go in for most tv/movies. But I actively avoid entertainment or media that comes from an abusive source.

For instance, I will not buy books by Orson Scott Card. I don't really care if others do, I choose not to.

[panader0]

38. Ted Nugent

[quinnox]

45. heh, there are always exceptions

but seriously, i don't like his music anyway, but I do think you bring up a point about exceptions if the individual is particularly loathsome.

[Throd]

65. I'll admit it, I like a few of his songs.

"Shut up and play yer guitar!"

[etherealtruth]

75. Though not an actor (just a jack ass)

That was going to be my answer, as well. He is just too big of an ass to overlook his politics .

He has done nothing worthy in decades ... but I will admit in my youth (it was little before my time but I loved it) was his self titled album. I very much enjoyed Snakeskin Cowboys

[petronius]

39. I generally don't either, be it actor, musician, author, artist, whatever

But I confess that if someone has crossed into being an advocate for positions I abhor - and I become aware of it - I do make an effort to buy their materials used*, or otherwise access them in ways that minimizes my contribution to the purse of the individual I don't agree with. That's rather hypocritical of me, I am aware.

Usually, I have no idea what the politics of actors et al. actually are - I don't generally consult those lists or pay attention to reports on the topic...


(* I try and buy most things used anyway, for a variety of reasons.)

[MurrayDelph]

40. It depends

I have friends with whom I have honest disagreements about what is best for the country.

I think I can extrapolate that to cover actors and celebrities.

If they have honest disagreements, I have no problem seeing/supporting their work.

If they are assholes about it, they don't need my money.

[treestar]

41. I'm not that much into movies, so I can afford to

In fact, I have not run into a single actor or musician who is conservative who I would have watched or listened to anyway.

[Michigan Alum]

42. It depends if they're nut jobs and really vocal about it.

[ScreamingMeemie]

43. Thank you. This is how I came to terms with Gary Sinise.

[Puzzledtraveller]

44. I still love Frasier

[SammyWinstonJack]

61. Yep! "Coach" too.

[sufrommich]

46. I agree. I dont really care what celebrities think

anymore than I care what anyone else thinks.The ability to act or sing doesn't indicate anything other than talent for acting or singing.

[Scuba]

48. There's no Meatloaf or Kid Rock on my iPod.

Neil Young and The Boss, Zappa and Jackson Browne, Tom Morello and Bob Marley, on the other hand, are well represented.

[Iggo]

56. I gotta have "Paradise By The Dashboard Lights."

That's a huge song from my time in high school in the 70s. Nugent's there as well. I can't un-like those songs just because I found out later they were douchebags.

[etherealtruth]

76. I can't help singing along (at the top of my lungs)

*A note: this action horrifies my children (when will they learn , their horror simply emboldens me)

[Whisp]

51. I care when they are racist pieces of scum. Everyone should care about that.

Would you say the same about your plumber? Hey, he does a great job, I don't care that he's a racist piece of shit at all!

nope.

[Tarheel_Dem]

73. Yeah, "everyone should care", but you know how it is.

I try not to reward rightwingers with my patronage. If I learn that they're Repukes, especially racist Repukes, I'm out. I won't reward that! Full Stop! However, it's great to learn that some folks' "principles" come with qualifications.

[lostincalifornia]

54. I do give a damn when he publicly calls the president "an abomination". He can go f*ck himself, and

f*ck his f*cked up movies too

[Corruption Inc]

57. I can't stand to look at Rs like the puke on "The Middle"

or any other R. They are self-deluded abusers whose self-loathing causes them to project a superior attitude to cover it up. Knowing that they vote to destroy the U.S. in every election ruins all entertainment value coming from that so-called person.

[regnaD kciN]

60. I don't care much, as long as they're just expressing their views as a private citizen…

…unless, of course, they make a complete ass of themselves ("Are you a JEW, sugar-t*ts?&quot in the process. Once they run for office or become a spokesperson for a right-wing political movement, that's another matter.

[Blue_Tires]

62. <<<<<<<<<<<<<Unapologetic admirer of the great Robert Duvall

He's still in my top 5 of American actors

[FarCenter]

63. How would you know what an actor's politics are?

If you could tell, they would be a poor actor.

[Lars39]

64. I will not knowingly contribute to them monetarily 'cause they will spend it on RW nutjobs.

[BKH70041]

71. A Mature Approach

There are those who are the opposite, otherwise known as having an immature approach.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

81. I used to think that too,

Until GWB came along and ruined everything....

[kestrel91316]

84. I do. I no longer want my consumer dollars going to people who wish me harm or actively work to harm

me or people I care about.

[Zorra]

90. As LGBT, I don't knowingly support any RW individuals or organizations. Bigots don't get my money if

I can help it.

Anyone, who belongs to and or/supports a RW organization, such as the republican party, contributes to a group that actively works against LGBT attaining and maintaining our rights, and in many cases would imprison or execute us if it were legally possible.

So fuck them all.

All people of good conscience should shun and boycott RWers in every way possible, IMO.