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We had to read it twice to be sure we had really understood it, said Nicolas Mombrial, the head of Oxfam in Washington. Its rare that IMF proposals are so surprising.
Guardian of financial orthodoxy, the International Monetary Fund, which is holding its annual meetings with the World Bank this week in the US capital, typically calls for nations in difficulty to slash public spending to reduce their deficits.
But in its Fiscal Monitor report, subtitled Taxing Times, the Fund advanced the idea of taxing the highest-income people and their assets to reinforce the legitimacy of spending cuts and fight against growing income inequalities.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/11/international-monetary-fund-strongly-suggests-countries-tax-the-rich-to-fix-deficit/
RC
(25,592 posts)Seems rather straight forward to me.
They must think the situation's pretty dire if they're advising this.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Congratulations to them changing hteir stance, I guess, but it's a little late, if you ask me
ArcticFox
(1,249 posts)Obviously it needs to be done, but for the IMF to write it?
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Maybe they wrote this out of fear.
PETRUS
(3,678 posts)We need public spending right now, we do not need to "fix" the deficit. We should tax the rich because that kind of wealth is unhealthy for society.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)PETRUS
(3,678 posts)mostlyconfused
(211 posts)As in tackled the 2013 deficit of about $700 billion with $350 billion in cuts and $350 billion in tax increases? or are they now suggesting it be addressed through taxes and no spending cuts?
roamer65
(36,747 posts)Hopefully gov'ts listen to this advice.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)roamer65
(36,747 posts)They play like a broken record player...broken record player...broken record player...
Stinky The Clown
(67,829 posts)Agony
(2,605 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,829 posts)colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)What welcome news. When I hear right wingers say "we don't want to be like Western Europe" I mentally shout out "Wrong!!" channeling my inner McLaughlin. Why on earth not - infrastructure way above us, no for profit health care, upward mobility, what's not to like. Taxes are higher, yes, but you get that back in spades.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)In other breaking news, DUH!
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Lugnut
(9,791 posts)Ya think?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)alittlelark
(18,890 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Last edited Sat Oct 12, 2013, 04:13 AM - Edit history (1)
Seriously. though, Obama appointed Jim Yong Kim to head the World Bank and he has influence on the IMF:
World Bank president: Debt debate could be dire
By Susan Page - October 8, 2013
WASHINGTON The president of the World Bank warned Tuesday that congressional maneuvering over raising the debt limit could have dire consequences for the global economy and the world's poorest people.
The effects of a default would be "really severe," Jim Yong Kim told USA TODAY's Capital Download, but even a period of uncertainty as the Treasury Department's Oct. 17 deadline approaches could unnerve stock markets and increase borrowing costs for developing countries.
"The notion that getting close to the 17th and then in the final minute doing something heroically, that will have an impact," he said in an interview with the weekly video newsmaker series at World Bank headquarters, where its annual meetings are being held this week. He issued a plea for members of Congress who are now debating what to do. Some Republican lawmakers have expressed skepticism that failing to raise the debt limit would have catastrophic economic repercussions...
A report from the International Monetary Fund on Tuesday on the world economic outlook warned that risks to the global economy were building, including potential damage from the U.S. partial government shutdown if it continues for an extended period of time...
There is a lot more about the great harm done by the GOP actions in 2011 and what they are doing right now at the link:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/10/08/world-bank-president-jim-yong-kim-warns-about-impact-of-debt-ceiling-debate/2944169/
One of Jim Yong Kim's goals is to eliminate poverty across the world. Here is some more about him and his ideas:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Yong_Kim
We need more of these great Obama appointees, like Kim, Warren, Cordray, Sotomayer, Kagan, Kerry, et al. They are leading this country and world to what we need it to be.
BTW, a little more about the IMF and World Bank:
The IMF and the World Bank. How Do They Differ?
By David D. Driscoll
If you have difficulty distinguishing the World Bank from the International Monetary Fund, you are not alone. Most people have only the vaguest idea of what these institutions do, and very few people indeed could, if pressed on the point, say why and how they differ. Even John Maynard Keynes, a founding father of the two institutions and considered by many the most brilliant economist of the twentieth century, admitted at the inaugural meeting of the International Monetary Fund that he was confused by the names: he thought the Fund should be called a bank, and the Bank should be called a fund. Confusion has reigned ever since.
Known collectively as the Bretton Woods Institutions after the remote village in New Hampshire, U.S.A., where they were founded by the delegates of 44 nations in July 1944, the Bank and the IMF are twin intergovernmental pillars supporting the structure of the world's economic and financial order. That there are two pillars rather than one is no accident. The international community was consciously trying to establish a division of labor in setting up the two agencies. Those who deal professionally with the IMF and Bank find them categorically distinct. To the rest of the world, the niceties of the division of labor are even more mysterious than are the activities of the two institutions.
Similarities between them do little to resolve the confusion. Superficially the Bank and IMF exhibit many common characteristics. Both are in a sense owned and directed by the governments of member nations. The People's Republic of China, by far the most populous state on earth, is a member, as is the world's largest industrial power (the United States). In fact, virtually every country on earth is a member of both institutions. Both institutions concern themselves with economic issues and concentrate their efforts on broadening and strengthening the economies of their member nations. Staff members of both the Bank and IMF often appear at international conferences, speaking the same recondite language of the economics and development professions, or are reported in the media to be negotiating involved and somewhat mystifying programs of economic adjustment with ministers of finance or other government officials. The two institutions hold joint annual meetings, which the news media cover extensively. Both have headquarters in Washington, D.C., where popular confusion over what they do and how they differ is about as pronounced as everywhere else. For many years both occupied the same building and even now, though located on opposite sides of a street very near the White House, they share a common library and other facilities, regularly exchange economic data, sometimes present joint seminars, daily hold informal meetings, and occasionally send out joint missions to member countries.
Despite these and other similarities, however, the Bank and the IMF remain distinct. The fundamental difference is this: the Bank is primarily a development institution; the IMF is a cooperative institution that seeks to maintain an orderly system of payments and receipts between nations. Each has a different purpose, a distinct structure, receives its funding from different sources, assists different categories of members, and strives to achieve distinct goals through methods peculiar to itself...
More at the link:
https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/exrp/differ/differ.htm#a8
Even though with the rise of think tanks, speculators and personages who have disparaged Keynesian economics, it was well regarded as I was growing up and I would hope there will be, if not exactly the same methods used, a system that embodies the spirit of it.
The IMF and World Bank have gained a very bad reputation over the years, their actions seeming to do much more harm than good. For them to do a turn to something more humane would be good. It is possible that this will help the poorest and help discredit the inhumane and callous ideology from which we are presently suffering.
Keynesian economics served as the standard economic model in the developed nations during the later part of the Great Depression, World War II, and the post-war economic expansion (19451973), though it lost some influence following the oil shock and resulting stagflation of the 1970s.[3] The advent of the global financial crisis in 2008 has caused a resurgence in Keynesian thought.[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_economics
Keynes argued for a mixed economic system, a social democracy with some government inverntion. While it was in vogue, there was an increase in prosperity and the standard of living in the USA and other countries. The predatory capitalist model that replaced is miserable one, destroying the environment, human rights and civil society world wide, leading to extremism, ignorance and intolerance. It's time to change the course.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Very informative. I've often wondered about the difference between the two.
BillyRibs
(787 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)scarletlib
(3,418 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)So that Business will know what to expect. Call it the 'Get Out Of Debt' tax, or 'GOOD'.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
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djean111
(14,255 posts)minimum wage to a living wage, raise taxes on the rich, repatriate all those trillions stashed away from taxes, and Single Payer.
Bwahahahaha! For my next song.....
No one in Washington is thinking of people, they are thinking of gamesmanship, winning and losing with human pawns, campaign contributions, cushy retirements, and whoever their owners are. The welfare of the American people is ALL measured in terms of profit, with some low or no cost social stuff thrown in as sops. Not saying those things are not wildly important, but very false equivalences are being thrown about. The money is there, it does not need to be spent on organized and profitable killing.
When the defense against complaints about Fucking Superlative CPI will be DOMA! President Romney! - right up until hey! it is not so bad, it could have worse, so shut the fuck up and genuflect, I know the country is not really interested in actual people any more.
BelgianMadCow
(5,379 posts)I'm trying to make that a habit
on point
(2,506 posts)Otherwise the rich will shift the money around to the lowest rates. If all the OECD agree on common rates and PAINFULL cash movement taxes against countries that don't agree that will stop the threats the wealthy always use to blackmail countries into low rates for them
pampango
(24,692 posts)This breakdown in international monetary co-operation created a need for oversight. The representatives of 45 governments met at the Bretton Woods Conference in the Mount Washington Hotel in the area of Bretton Woods, New Hampshire in the United States, to discuss framework for post-World War II international economic co-operation. The participating countries were concerned with the rebuilding of Europe and the global economic system after the war.
There were two views on the role the IMF should assume as a global economic institution. British economist John Maynard Keynes imagined that the IMF would be a cooperative fund upon which member states could draw to maintain economic activity and employment through periodic crises. This view suggested an IMF that helped governments and to act as the US government had during the New Deal in response to World War II. American delegate Harry Dexter White foresaw an IMF that functioned more like a bank, making sure that borrowing states could repay their debts on time. Most of White's plan was incorporated into the final acts adopted at Bretton Woods.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Monetary_Fund#History
eppur_se_muova
(36,305 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,456 posts)Thanks for the thread, octoberlib.