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redgreenandblue

(2,128 posts)
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:20 AM Oct 2013

It is often overlooked that "scientifically" Chirstopher Columbus was 100% wrong...

... and the church/great powers that refused him funding were correct to do so:

Columbus thought he could reach India because an Italian geographer, Paolo Dal Pozzo Toscanelli, miscalculated the size of the earth by a factor of 4.

The Church, correctly sticking with Eratosthenes's estimate (mathematically sound and wrong by only 4%, not bad for an ancient greek!), predicted Columbus would never reach India with the ships available at the time, it was simply too far. Had a continent (unknown to both Columbus and the church) not been there, Columbus and his crew would never have returned alive.

So, "Columbus day" should be there to remind us that deep world-changing experimental results come from utterly wrong theories.

Happy bad theoretical physics day.



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It is often overlooked that "scientifically" Chirstopher Columbus was 100% wrong... (Original Post) redgreenandblue Oct 2013 OP
Many discoveries are made by accident but we need not celebrate the "discovery" of KurtNYC Oct 2013 #1
On the other hand, European fishermen probably had reached the Grand Banks by then FarCenter Oct 2013 #2
not only that klyon Oct 2013 #3
Columbus the Myth zipplewrath Oct 2013 #4
When I was a kid, I watched "Conquest of Paradise", redgreenandblue Oct 2013 #5

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
1. Many discoveries are made by accident but we need not celebrate the "discovery" of
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:33 AM
Oct 2013

2 continents that were already home to 60 million human beings.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
2. On the other hand, European fishermen probably had reached the Grand Banks by then
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:37 AM
Oct 2013

It's likely that some knowledge of lands west of Iceland was prevalent on the waterfront in northern European ports, even though the Church was clueless.

klyon

(1,697 posts)
3. not only that
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:43 AM
Oct 2013

He was not first
and it led to the genocide of millions,
nothing to celebrate here move along.

zipplewrath

(16,698 posts)
4. Columbus the Myth
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:54 AM
Oct 2013

There are many modern misconceptions about Columbus that exist within a rather uneducated population. My favorite being the whole "they thought the earth was flat" schtick. There was practically no one who knew anything about navigation or sailing that though the earth was flat. As you say, not only did they know it was round, but they knew roughly how big it was, except for Columbus apparently. And he as far from the first European to get there, at least in the sense of the American continent. And it is apparent that Africans had been there for some time.

redgreenandblue

(2,128 posts)
5. When I was a kid, I watched "Conquest of Paradise",
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 01:01 PM
Oct 2013

thinking that that was basically how it happened. That movie is about as historically accurate as "Brave Heart".

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