Occupy storms closed memorial, rips fences down..marches to WH

[SoCalDem]

and tosses them at the White House...demands that Obama add back funding for poor kids..


Oh Wait.. That never happened

BUT

Imagine long lines of police with pepper spray and batons if it HAD..


Republican legislators & provocateurs KNOW they are always safe and guaranteed media if they hide behind misguided vets of their party..

Dem legislators would be too cowed to show up if Occupy showed up to protest.. Many of our "leaders" would congratulate the police for arresting them

[vi5]

1. Bingo

That about sums it up nicely.

[ChangeUp106]

2. Forget Occupy

I was down there 2 years ago and leaned against the fence for a picture in front of the WH and had security come over and tell me not to touch the fence again.

I thought D.C., especially the WH fence, was the "no fuc* around area."

[Pretzel_Warrior]

26. I would tell the security that it is malarkey

[MannyGoldstein]

3. Ah, but if they openly carried guns and mumbled "second amendment"

They'd be given safe passage, respected as freedom-loving scholars of the Constitution.

[hootinholler]

9. Not in DC

Ask Adam Kokesh (probably hosed spelling that)

[Turbineguy]

4. I don't know why this comparison between this and the Occupy demonstrations.

They have nothing in common. The Occupy Protestors knew why they were there. These Veterans are just being used as baton fodder. Guys like Larry Klayman will disavow them in a second if things got violent after he incited them.

Occupy had people like Joseph Stiglitz.

[RandiFan1290]

5. Occupy is just the most recent

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It happens at every RNC protest and the peace protests against the Iraq "war"

Edit to add "Free Trade" protests

[dreamnightwind]

6. i think the point is that

the two group's free speech rights and freedom of assembly rights were not equally protected by the government/police. Though I agree the groups had nothing in common, and Occupy was a very active and sincere reform movement, unlike the stooges waving flags and teabags.

[Cresent City Kid]

11. Another point is the "news" network that propogated the misunderstanding

Fox usually beats the drum about government being too big. The problems large and small caused by the shutdown are being laid at Obama's feet so something like a memorial site being closed is reported as "Obama Orders Vets Removed From Memorial." Fox is like the instigator at a bar fight who mutters, "You gonna take that shit from him?"

Most average Americans don't see this as Obama's shutdown, especially after Ted Cruz's spectacle on the Senate floor. A small but dangerous minority is being whipped up into a froth.

[dreamnightwind]

22. Not the relevant point of the OP but I agree

with what you are saying.

I was just replying to a poster who I agree with re Occupy but who appeared to miss the point of the OP, which as I read it was about uneven treatment between the Occupy protests and right-wing protests.

Re corporate media, obviously they are not our friend. It has always been that way (in my adult life anyway, and I'm not young), much worse now though as you point out with partisan outfits like Fox taking an active role in these events rather than trying to just report on them.

[sabrina 1]

18. The comparison ISN'T between OWS and the TB, it is between the

difference in how they treat Peaceful Protestors against Big Bank corruption and rabid, Right Wing, Big Bank funded, morons.

The difference is remarkable. If OWS ever touched one of their fences they would be charged under the Patriot Act.

Why is that?

And just imagine if OWS protestors were carrying weapons?

Were there ANY arrests at the 'protest' by the TP btw?

[Heather MC]

7. These were not mis-guided vets

Their event was highjacked by tea turds because that is the only way they can draw a crowd

[Coyotl]

13. ^^^ THIS ^^^ Tea (Tyrranny) Party needs to go to where the crowd is first.

Because they have no crowd of their own. Look how just 10 trucks showed up in DC after all the media Fox gave them.

[Heather MC]

20. The truck thing was so stupid

I live in the area, People would have cut around them easily. Even my Mini Van can Pop up to 90 MPH in a half a second if I needed the speed. I would have shot around them before they had a chance to make a course correction. then I would have gotten in front of them and slowly decreased my speed to 25 miles per hour and reverse protest their asses LOL


If they want to protest something protest Rapist getting off on Criminal Charges, Or Hungry Kids in the riches Country in America
Or people living in on the streets while banks are holding on to tons of empty foreclosed properties
Or people's homes being foreclosed on because of Bank errors

I could go on. If they have time to protest they should protest the real problems we have in this country not the made up Bullshit Tea Turd drama

[daleanime]

38. +1

[DLevine]

8. K&R. nt

[LaydeeBug]

10. How many arrests were made at the Immigration rally?

How many at this one?

[kmlisle]

14. Good point and I think the answer is 200 to 1

And the 200 included a number of Democratic lawmakers.

[ananda]

12. Excellent observation!

All Occupy did was camp out peacefully and show the truth publicly.
Yet the batons came out and the arrests were made and the camps
were destroyed.

Clearly, legitimate dissent and protest are not OK; but neoconfederate
bullying and destruction of public property are.

Well, it's definitely time to trot out that statement from Lady Macduff
when she and her children were about to be killed by the henchman,
probably the opportunist Ross, of the increasingly paranoid tyrant Macbeth:

Whither should I fly?
I have done no harm. But I remember now
I am in this earthly world, where to do harm
Is often laudable, to do good sometime
Accounted dangerous folly. Why then, alas,
Do I put up that womanly defense,
To say I have done no harm?

(IV.ii.68-74)

[BlueJazz]

15. This is what it would have looked like if DUer's had PEACEFULLY gone to Washington.

I'm so pissed-off at this double standard. The Right-wing sons-a-bitches can tear up government property and destroy stuff and not a damn thing is done but let one Liberal protest and it's WAR baby!

[ChazII]

17. Disgusting. n/t

[sulphurdunn]

29. The rightwing SOBs,

regardless of their 1776 rhetoric and Libertarian BS, are actually defenders of the status quo and are thus very useful political and media tools. Leftist liberals, radical young people, minorities and anyone else who takes the Declaration of Independence seriously, pose a legitimate threat to the status quo and are forcefully suppressed. There's nothing new in that.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

31. The down and out and poor were the ones to fight in our war of independence

and will be the ones to do so again.

[sulphurdunn]

32. Yes they were,

but the well off organized it.

[gtar100]

16. Yes, the hypocrisy is utterly shameful.

Progressive ideals have given this country the only things it should really be proud of and yet it's a constant uphill battle to get any action on them. A real shame.

[KansDem]

19. Silly! Repubs, and particuarly TeaBaggers, are Real 'Murikans™

Not anything like OWS leeches and "takers!"

[font size="1"]Do I need the sarcasm smiley?[font size="2"]

[Egalitarian Thug]

21. It's the little differences. K&R

[zbdent]

23. Repugs use veterans/military for photo-ops any time they want to do something

illegal or unpopular.

And when they can't get enough military to smile for the pics ... they photo-shop the photo-op ...

[rocktivity]

24. Obviously a hoax: The Occupiers would have dumped the barriers

in front of the Capitol building -- THEY know who voted for the shutdown!


rocktivity

[polichick]

25. The people need a party to represent them...

Occupy Wall Street freaked out both corporate parties.

[SunSeeker]

30. Yes, Occupy freaked it both the Republicans and the Libertarians. nt

[gopiscrap]

27. No kidding that's one of the things that infuriates me about this

you know if it was a left group that there would have been a bunch of cracked heads.

[SoCalDem]

36. and media would have gladly reported that they were leaderless

and had no real goals... just a bunch of ne'er-do-wells out causing trouble & blocking traffic

[gopiscrap]

37. exactly, it was complete bullshit how that thing was handled

[sulphurdunn]

28. Being a vet didn't

keep that Occupy kid from being shot in the head with a teargas canister either.

[NuclearDem]

33. Didn't stop Chicago PD from clocking me upside the head at NoNATO either.

[Rebellious Republican]

34. K&R

[blkmusclmachine]

35. .

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[zentrum]

39. The cops don't even dress the same for...

....one of our demonstrations. They wore little blue vests for the baggers. For us, they dress in black, you can't see their faces, full riot gear.

They would never let an occupier touch them, let alone push at their sticks, get in their faces? We'd all be on the ground in painful handcuffs or with cracked skulls.

The baggers knew and felt they were immune.

[upi402]

40. This

is why I can't bear to watch TV News propaganda anymore.

Red herring, false flag, distractionary, unadulterated bullshit.

[reddread]

41. why do you suppose people do?

I think the addictive nature of TV viewing sets the stage for gross manipulation, which succeeds because
there is no alternative programming available domestically at the same level of saturation, and because people
are equally entertained by outrage as they are by consolation.
Both viewpoints further the propaganda by repeating what they heard, whether in protest or in agreement.
The countervailing personal arguments do not carry the weight of the people's airwaves.
That is a battleground we ceded quite some time ago, with the help of the FCC and telecom deregulation,
it would seem.
Like many places in our media,
hippy punching is much safer than
standing up to conservative thought and rhetoric.

[Chathamization]

42. And it's national news whenever a few dozen leftists protest

...right?