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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:20 PM Oct 2013

Ted Cruz, Mike Lee and House Republicans Are PLOTTING ANOTHER GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN




Calling On John McCain..John McCain.......About that " NO SHUTDOWN AGAIN,..'I GUARANTEE IT' " promise you made..

.....






Sens. Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and House Republicans are already plotting another government shutdown/default crisis in an attempt to stop the ACA. As soon as the bill was passed to reopen the government, the same Republican extremists who carried out the first government shutdown were already plotting round two. Rep. John Fleming (R-LA) told The New York Times, “I’ll vote against it, but that will get us into Round 2. See, we’re going to start this all over again.” On top of Fleming’s explicit threat, here is what Sens. Mike Lee (R-UT) and Ted Cruz (R-TX) had to say when Sean Hannity said that it looks like they aren’t going away.




Sen. Lee said, “We’re not going away, and neither are the many millions of Americans who have joined this dialogue, who have made their voices heard by Washington, D.C. And not only are we not going anywhere, but they aren’t either, because their numbers are growing, because more people are hurting as a result of this law every single day. And as they continue to call in and ask for help, we’re going to continue to do everything that we can to help them. And the way that we can help them is to stop this law, and to stop the implementation, and enforcement…We’re not going to fund it. That’s what we said then, and that’s what we still think we should do.” Sen. Cruz said that, “This is going to be multi-staged extended political battle.”




Democrats and Republicans who thought that Cruz, Lee, and their House Republicans would learn anything from the political spanking that just delivered to the by the American people were wrong. What President Obama tried to do in his speech this morning was build a coalition of Democrats and Republicans that will work around Cruz and the House extremists to get things done. It is up to House and Senate Republicans to get their fringe under control. President Obama and congressional Democrats are the last firewall of defense to prevent the far right Republicans in Congress from wrecking the economy, but Democrats have been placed in this role only because the House Republican leadership can’t control their own people.



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http://www.politicususa.com/2013/10/17/ted-cruz-mike-lee-house-republicans-plotting-goverment-shutdown.html
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Ted Cruz, Mike Lee and House Republicans Are PLOTTING ANOTHER GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN (Original Post) Segami Oct 2013 OP
arrest them now Champion Jack Oct 2013 #1
+1 Cleita Oct 2013 #14
What is in the salsa at that restaurant?? n/t winter is coming Oct 2013 #2
Traitor dip. Segami Oct 2013 #3
Because it worked out so well last time? Blue Idaho Oct 2013 #4
"..This was going to be a 'Multi-Stage-Extended-Battle'.... Segami Oct 2013 #5
They should be arrested for Seditious Conspiracy AZ Progressive Oct 2013 #6
Please tell me you didn't go to law school. former9thward Oct 2013 #18
They are just sore Turbineguy Oct 2013 #7
No doubt they will try again.... HooptieWagon Oct 2013 #8
They're nothing but subhuman redneck traitor-trash. n/t backscatter712 Oct 2013 #9
Excellent news LondonReign2 Oct 2013 #10
"....Unless the same coalition that prevented a default last night continues to work together,.. Segami Oct 2013 #11
They must be sadist. B Calm Oct 2013 #12
New Insanity Test Old and In the Way Oct 2013 #13
I didn't understand them until these messages from and being Cleita Oct 2013 #15
Part of me is beginning to suspect that they're actually liberals on an undercover Downtown Hound Oct 2013 #16
Liberals would not create hardship to prove a point Cleita Oct 2013 #17
It's only a joke. n/t Downtown Hound Oct 2013 #19
They think they "won" so of course they're going to try again riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #20
 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
5. "..This was going to be a 'Multi-Stage-Extended-Battle'....
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:32 PM
Oct 2013


Brace yourselves for more to come,.....these weasels are planning to disrupt this government.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
6. They should be arrested for Seditious Conspiracy
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:33 PM
Oct 2013
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2384

18 USC § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

Turbineguy

(37,364 posts)
7. They are just sore
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:34 PM
Oct 2013

they didn't cost anywhere near as much as George W Bush and kill as many people as Josef Stalin.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
8. No doubt they will try again....
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:34 PM
Oct 2013

...look at the donations and new mailing list that flooded into Cruz's pockets. GOP has to get their terrorist wing under control....take away committee assignments, move their offices to the basement, don't give them the microphone,,, whatever it takes. And Dems need a plan in case the republicans fail to control the monster they created and nurtured.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
10. Excellent news
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:36 PM
Oct 2013

The first time around it took America a little while to catch on to what complete assholes these people are.

This time, that will be the starting point. And while people *might* forgive someone for being an asshole once, the reaction will be twice as strong if they pull the same crap again.

But as Bartcop says, if a person makes a mistake that lines their pockets with money, expect them to make that *mistake* again and again...and Ted Cruz made a lot of money off this debacle.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
11. "....Unless the same coalition that prevented a default last night continues to work together,..
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:38 PM
Oct 2013
....Ted Cruz and his lemmings will shutdown the government or try to force a default in early 2014. House Republicans can avoid a future shutdown by taking the budget conference seriously and working with Senate Democrats, but Ted Cruz and quest to the use the ACA to get elected president in 2016 aren’t going anywhere...."

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
13. New Insanity Test
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:44 PM
Oct 2013

Continuing the same agenda and expecting different results. How many billions will the next stunt cost this country?

Anyways, I think they've reached the point of diminishing returns with this strategy. I'm pretty sure that the members of the sane Republican caucus will never allow these nimrods the political forum to launch their sequel to ' Green Eggs and Ham'.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
15. I didn't understand them until these messages from and being
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:56 PM
Oct 2013

anointed by God nonsense started coming out. They are a bunch of religious fruit cakes who should be writing fantasy fiction instead of governing a real world country. They should listen to Jesus, who when questioned if he was king of the Jews said his kingdom was not of this world but that of heaven. Hey guys your kingdom and reward is out there in heaven depending on what kind of lives you live here on earth, but it's not here in this world.

GO AWAY!

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
16. Part of me is beginning to suspect that they're actually liberals on an undercover
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:57 PM
Oct 2013

operation. I mean, another shutdown would kill whatever slim chances the GOP has left in 2014. As it is now, their only hope is that people forget about it in a year. If another shutdown happens, they can pretty much forget about that.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
17. Liberals would not create hardship to prove a point
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 04:02 PM
Oct 2013

or engineer a devious scheme. They are ideologue, religious fruit cakes and nothing more.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
20. They think they "won" so of course they're going to try again
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 04:21 PM
Oct 2013

Unfortunately their stunning fund raising that resulted reinforces it.


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