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[flamingdem]

1. What are the most Republican areas?

Doesn't it depend on what city you're in?

[darkangel218]

2. Guess so. i was speaking of the state overall.

Now if you want to get technical. I used to live in Miami Beach. The most awesome place in the world, that if you had a parking space!! Lol
Close to Miami Beach.. Kendall. A very conservative town, still belonging to Miami Dade.

Im now in Central FL. It reminds me of Miami Beach.

Orange County , progressive all around.

GO FL!!!

[steve2470]

5. Seminole County, Pasco County, Sarasota County, any rural county are the Republican ones

Orange, Osceola, Miami-Dade, Broward, Hillsborough and Pinellas counties all went blue last election, if I remember correctly.

eta: here is a map of the 2012 election results

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/florida/

Throw in these counties also: Monroe, Alachua, Gadsden, St. Lucie, Palm Beach, Leon, Jefferson.

[steve2470]

13. no, I don't know him but I signed his MMJ petition a few weeks ago

Downtown Orlando is where the progressivism really is. Our arts culture is growing, yes.

[darkangel218]

18. +1000

I love downtown. X

[Baitball Blogger]

34. Sure.

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Tell him to send regards to the Repub attorney he harbors that made sure I would raise my children in an environment that resembled a 1950s backwater town.

[madfloridian]

28. Don't forget Polk County...sandwiched between Tampa and Orlando on I-4.

Very conservative, many tea party folks.

[steve2470]

29. yep that one too, also Sumter and Lake and Brevard and...list goes on nt

[handmade34]

61. Oh...

headed there next month... NOoooooooooooo

[HooptieWagon]

64. Southern Sarasota Co heavy red...

but the northern part, including city of Sarasota, is purple, maybe slightly red. There are some Dems who fight hard there, against long odds.

[HooptieWagon]

62. The Villages, Charlotte Co, Collier Co.

Like elsewhere in the US, urban areas blue. Rural areas heavy red, suburbs leaning red. Overall, Dems outnumber 'pubs by about 800,000. Indies inbetween. State party very dysfunctional, DLC-oriented, and work harder to keep progressives from being elected than 'pubs. On the street, Dems more progressive than DLC, so not much support for state party.

[spartan61]

74. I live in The Villages

and it certainly is not blue. The developer is part of the 1% and the only people invited to speak at the Town Squares are the likes of Romney, Palin, Rand Paul, Paul Ryan, etc. Even the local Barnes and Nobel only have book signings for the Repukes, so I refuse to shop there. The Daily Sun is the local paper and it is a repug rag. Hell, even Fox and Friends broadcasted from The Villages. When Romney came to campaign, the Democratic Club of The Villages were asked to leave. We did not heckle or say anything but because we were wearing blue Dem Tee shirts (and were very respectful), we had to leave. So much for freedom.

[HooptieWagon]

76. Oh I know. I was answering ? for solid red areas.

I think Democrats in The Villages can be counted on one hand. Similar in Charlotte Co (Port Charlotte and Punta Gorda) and Collier Co (Naples).

[tsuki]

67. The panhandle and northern part where most of the economy is provided by

the military. Okaloosa County's military installations provide 73% of the economy, and the county votes more than 73% teabagger.

[steve2470]

3. eh I live here too but I think it's still too reddish

Give us a few more years.

[darkangel218]

4. Where are you at?

[steve2470]

6. Orange County not far from Seminole County line nt

[darkangel218]

7. I love that area.

Bought my car from Longwood and I LOVE Winter Park!

[steve2470]

8. me too

We're making gains in Florida and hopefully Governor Voldemort will be gone soon.

[darkangel218]

10. Lmao!!!!

[kydo]

15. dude we are neighbors

I'm in Winter Park, but the Seminole county part, in between Aloma and Howell Branch

[steve2470]

17. yea I'm down the road from you in the Orange county part

I almost moved to San Francisco but I can't afford it. I'll make the best of it here, vote for progressives. I have Mica as my rep., I envy the people who have Alan Grayson out west.

[steve2470]

20. it's probably a staffer who posts authorized messages nt

[darkangel218]

21. I guess so. nt

[kydo]

24. we should go protest in front of mica's office together

I'd go alone but while Orlando is becoming progressive Seminole County still has some very mean red baggies with guns driving around in pick up trucks with the zimmerman mentality (kill first ask questions later), it might be dangerous alone.

[kydo]

11. I'm on the other side of the street/countyline to a blue area

I am in Seminole County and really almost live in the blue Orange County but no I am in mica's district. Still red but getting pink. Maybe it will be blue on the next election cycle.

[OriginalGeek]

75. My aunt and Grandpa live in Seminole county

My grandpa had 3 Obama yard signs stolen last election. My aunt seemed to have an endless supply of them though so no big deal.

[HooptieWagon]

78. Cure for sign-stealing...

put hot chili peppers in blender to puree. Mix with petroleum jelly and smear around perimeter of sign (wear gloves!). Or you can just paint a sign on the garage door, and paint over after election.

[OriginalGeek]

79. Nice!

I like the peppers...I doubt his HOA will allow the garage door paint though.

[kydo]

93. I will use that next time

Someone stole my sign. Granted it was several days after the election. I was waiting to remove it when FL officially finished voting. It would have come down the next day because that's when Obama was Officially named the winner in FL. But no. Some one took it. So I made a bigger sign about how great it was Obama won and left it there for about a month. Put spot lights on it too.

[Baitball Blogger]

12. darkangel, Central Florida is not progressive.

I went to Rollins, which is a reflection of the Winter Park area and most of the people I encountered from my school days are Republicans. They only figured out how staunchly progressive I was when Obama came into office. I hardly talk to any of them anymore.

Orange County may be Democratic, but they're not progressives.

I have found very few progressives, anywhere in Seminole County.

You may be in a progressive pocket of Central Florida, but Florida is NOT a progressive state. God, that is so misleading and ignores what Jeb Bush did, and Rick Scott is doing in this state.

[Baitball Blogger]

22. We will agree to disagree.

Of course, if it were progressive, it would be blue. All blue. It's not.

I really think you may have a case of amnesia, because winning this state literally takes everything we have.

[darkangel218]

23. Umm .. no i dont have amnesia.

Thanks for the concern anyway.

[Arcanetrance]

36. By the logic of if it were truly progressive it would be all blue

Neither California or my home New York are progressive neither are all blue. I've been to Florida and will probably be moving there in a few months. I would say atleast where I've been which is the Fort Lauderdale the state has a good amount of progressives. It's gone blue in the last two elections as well.

[Baitball Blogger]

37. Evidence of progressives in California and New York is much stronger than it is in Florida.

To think otherwise is ignoring the demographics.

But, move on down. Just don't complain when you learn that there are topics that are best kept to yourself in some areas. Like politics, for instance.

[Arcanetrance]

43. I'm used to that I think I was born to the only conservative family in NYC

[trumad]

14. Oviedo Baby--

About as red as it comes.

[Boom Sound 416]

25. The state is pretty much split by I-4

[darkangel218]

26. Not really.

South FL is very progressive. I4 doesn't run there.

[Boom Sound 416]

33. Yes

For the most part south of 4 is blue, north of 4 is red.

[Baitball Blogger]

35. You mean, if you ignore the Cuban-Americans that tend to vote Republican?

[stevenleser]

40. I think Obama actually won the S FL cuban vote last time. I could be wrong but

I thought I heard that. I can research if its disputed.

[kydo]

42. He did we won the cuban vote

[Baitball Blogger]

44. Confirmed. He did get considerable votes from Cuban Americans. I am corrected.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/11/16/165283004/republican-lock-on-floridas-cuban-american-vote-may-be-over

But that still does not make South Florida a progressive area. Broward County may be progressive, but to claim South Florida as progressive is a stretch.

[kydo]

57. florida is much closer to becoming a blue progressive state

then most people think. And it started happening over the last 6 years. However there are still clumps of deep really deep red. Not to sound morbid but time and nature are on our side as the really red population is dying off and not being replaced.

[RKP5637]

63. It is morbid, but it is factual, the deep red IMO is dying off. And many are getting

really fed up with the old guard RW crap.

[Baitball Blogger]

68. I hope you're right.

But I don't think it will go away on its own.

[RKP5637]

72. It'll be a slow process IMO, younger ones are still coming along. n/t

[JI7]

52. the Cuban vote is starting to move Democratic, it was mostly the old ones who feld castro

that were republicans. and even then they were one issue type voters. not necessarily conservative on most issues.

[HooptieWagon]

69. Not true.

Only the Cubans right off the boat are a repubublican bloc. Each successive generation is increasingly Dem. I believe the overall Cuban-Am vote in '12 was a bit in favor of Obama.

[Baitball Blogger]

70. You are correct.

[lostincalifornia]

27. Florida has been both at different times. As to your thesis if it wasn't you wouldn't live there, a

Lot of people don't have that choice or means where they can just pick up and go

[TBA]

30. Tallahassee/Leon County is progressive

Always votes Democratic. Go 10 miles outside of the city in any direction and it is a different world.

[steve2470]

31. correct, my bro lives in Jefferson County and he would agree with you too nt

[demwing]

32. St Petersburg is a Blue stonghold

Large LGBT and minority communities help keep it that way. There are also 2 colleges, lots of live music, and at least 2 world class museums (the Dali Museum and the Chihuly Collection) that help attract a young, progressive population.

Unfortunately we're neighbors with Clearwater, which is jut the opposite.

[HooptieWagon]

81. St Pete all blue except Mayor.

We hope to fix that in 3 weeks.

[Brickbat]

38. It depends on how you define "progressive."

[darkangel218]

39. Do you live on FL?

Otherwise your sarcasm is useless

[Brickbat]

47. It wasn't sarcasm.

[JI7]

49. does one need to live there to see who the Governor is ?

[demwing]

98. I live in Florida. It's not a "progressive" state

but it is making progress

[Egalitarian Thug]

41. Oh my,

[darkangel218]

48. Oh how inteligent of you

[Egalitarian Thug]

66. If I'd posted anything that absurd, I wouldn't call attention to relative intellect. n/t

[darkangel218]

73. Just keep posting dozens of smileys then.

[pnwmom]

45. So why did you elect your governor? n/t

[JI7]

46. no it's not, overall it's a purple state , and look at the governor

i would say it is more purple with slight lean towards the red more than blue.

[darkangel218]

51. No it isnt. Its a blue state now.

[JI7]

56. no it's not

[Fla Dem]

100. From your lips. Please look at this electorial map of the Obama/Romney election.

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We have a ways to go before we are even a purple state.

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/#/President/2012/FL

10 out of 27 Florida US Congress memebers are Dems

1st — Rep. Jeff Miller R
2nd — Rep. Steve Southerland R
3rd — Rep. Ted Yoho R
4th — Rep. Ander Crenshaw R
5th — Rep. Corrine Brown D
6th — Rep. Ron DeSantis R
7th — Rep. John Mica R
8th — Rep. Bill Posey R
9th — Rep. Alan Grayson D
10th — Rep. Daniel Webster R
11th — Rep. Richard Nugent R
12th — Rep. Gus Bilirakis R
13th — Rep. W. Bill Young R
14th — Rep. Kathy Castor D
15th — Rep. Dennis Ross R
16th — Rep. Vern Buchanan R
17th — Rep. Thomas Rooney R
18th — Rep. Patrick Murphy D
19th — Rep. Trey Radel R
20th — Rep. Alcee Hastings D
21st — Rep. Theodore Deutch D
22nd — Rep. Lois Frankel D
23rd — Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz D
24th — Rep. Frederica Wilson D
25th — Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart R
26th — Rep. Joe Garcia D
27th — Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen R


Republicans have 63% of the seats in the Florida State legislature (75-45).

Plus the state Democratic Party has not been very effective in galvanizing the electorate for congressional/mid term elections.

I hope you're right; we'll see.

[Bluenorthwest]

50. I wish that it was, but it's not. Which is why I don't live there.

Too many regressive laws and politicians. Florida still has no protections for LGBT people in employment or housing and it has extremely backward marijuana laws and no medical marijuana program. Marco Rubio elected to the Untied States Senate, a shame less noticed because Ted Cruz is better at being a fascist loudmouth, but a shame nonetheless.
Oh, and the elections, which Florida just can't seem to fix. It gets old, the long lines and confused precincts. The Republican control.

So many things I love about Florida, a few changes and I'd live there. But I don't. Maybe someday!

[RKP5637]

60. If enough of us keep moving here it's all for the better someday. n/t

[VanillaRhapsody]

53. And lets not forget Jacksonville!

and oh by the way...stay out of Lake City Florida if you know what is good for ya!

[Loge23]

54. Yes, the OP is correct

Big problem with voter suppression and gerrymandering.

This is a blue state.

[Bluenorthwest]

58. Blue States encourage voting. Voter suppression is a symptom of Republican

control of the State election apparatus.

[HooptieWagon]

83. Dems outnumber 'pubs by almost a million.

Problem is a real shitty and dysfunctional state party. Dems on the street pretty progressive, state party is uber-DLC and works harder to defeat progressives than repukes. Hell, the state party chairwoman a few years back was a freakin' republican lobbyist! People are starting to get organized on grass-roots level...everyone hates the state party.

[RKP5637]

55. Sarasota County seems pretty moderate. Where I live it seems sort of live and

let live. Sarasota County also just moved forward strongly to create a gay registry like Broward County. The vote by the county commissioners was 5/0 in favor.

[Comrade Grumpy]

59. Well, except for the governor and the state legislature.

[JCMach1]

65. Heavily polarized and gerrymandered state...

Parts of North Florida are about as Teashitty as you can get...

[HooptieWagon]

71. And Tampa, Orlando, G-ville, and J-ville are as blue as it gets.

[JCMach1]

84. JAX is still Purple/swing area

and Repubs that are in the area are hella shitty... North Gainesville, Clay County and a few other bits are represented by Ted (crazier than a shitfarm) Yoho (R, Gainesville)

[ecstatic]

77. Maybe, but the overall leadership sucks

Somehow, Floridians have leaders who've decided that it's basically OK to murder unarmed teens and steal elections. 9 hour lines to vote? Really? That's a problem that's hard to ignore.

[flvegan]

80. No matter, DU's general pop hates it and us.

Florida is changing, and we are becoming more and more blue every election. But don't mention that to the masses who still dipshit their way into blaming us vis a vis Nader. It's the ignorant way, and that path is strong.

Oh, and guns. Zimmerman. Stand your ground. All "tasers-to-the-balls" shouting points.

[Fla Dem]

82. Couldn't prove that in NE Fla.

Duval & St Johns counties are about as red as can be.

[HooptieWagon]

86. I-4 corridor, considered bellweather for FL (and Nation)...

...is trending solid blue. Tampa has Dem Mayor and all Dem City Council. Orlando has Dem Mayor. St Pete has majority Dem City Council, 'puke Mayor, but we'll take care of that in 3 weeks. Things looking brighter.

[LeftyMom]

85. Only if you use a comically low standard to determine who's progressive.

Your state government is RW. Your congressional delegation is overwhelmingly RW. Your record on civil rights is terrible. Your record on women's rights is terrible. Your environmental laws are terrible.

Maybe it's just my perspective here in an actual progressive state but I'm not impressed.

Also your weather sucks and your roads are terrifying.

[darkangel218]

94. We wont miss you!

[FSogol]

87. The Sky is Red!

I know because I live here.

I wouldn't if it was otherwise.

[Rex]

89. Texas is a very progressive state.

I know because I live here.

[just us]

88. Fl. is up for grabs

I also am a floridian of 55 years and the state is in the grips of the tea party congress and tea party Governor. They are steeling our money, resources and health.
Instead of adding protected land we are selling land we own.
Our education funds are being channeled to private religious schools and the war on teachers, poor and middle class is at depcon 5.

[polichick]

90. Well, that's hopeful...

I might have said delusional but optimism isn't a bad thing - as a Floridian I'd like it to be true.

[RockaFowler]

91. We are Purple - sadly

Look 2010 killed this state. That monster pRick Scott is probably going to turn this state Blue all on his own. But we still have those silly pockets of repuke lunacy (even down here in SoFla). Check out the winners in Martin County. They at least saw how crazy Allen West was, so we were able to get rid of his carpet-bagging ass. But Martin County on a whole is one of the most conservative areas in the state (except the Redneck Riviera in the Panhandle). I hate to even shop in that county. Thank goodness for St Lucie, Palm Beach, Broward, Miami-Dade and Monroe Counties - South Florida rocks!!

[Tommy_Carcetti]

92. Florida is, well, Florida. And I'll forever love it.

I wouldn't call it tremendously progressive, but it's far more liberal and progressive than out-of-staters are lead to believe. We're a deep purple that unfortunately due to the magic of gerrymandering are saddled with an uber-red legislature and governor (who hopefully will be one and done a year from now).

The coasts are bluer than the inland and the panhandle. All wonderful places to see throughout the state, though.

I love Florida, warts and all. I wouldn't leave here for any other state....save perhaps Hawaii.

[Capt. Obvious]

95. Give Alabama the panhandle

Problem solved

[RockaFowler]

97. Or - we could let South Florida Secede

I hate that area of Florida. My mom lives there now and she hates it too (she's moving down here soon). That is one scary area!!

[Joel thakkar]

96. There are 2 main problems in florida

1) Florida's district are gerrymandered

2) Old people all over the nation moves to Florida for retirement (Not criticizing but we know old people tend to vote republican)



Due to above reasons, it is a purple state. Otherwise, it would a solid blue. Although, Florida was blue in both 2008 and 2012. So there is a hope to change the state level officials in 2014.

[cali]

99. No, it is not. Are there good Progressive Floridians? Sure, lots of them.

but Progressive states elect a majority of progressive lawmakers and send progressives to Congress. They enact progressive laws.

Florida just doesn't do those things.

[katmondoo]

101. I live here and I don't see any progressives

We have one of the most repressive governors in the States.