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[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Oh, boy; now the fun begins.

Technically popcorn is vegan, but I like mine buttered.

[Brickbat]

2. Let's play Find the Vegan!

[Archae]

6. Just follow your nose.

Vegans fart a lot.

[NoOneMan]

3. And a fuck you to the environment

But seriously folks...the summers in the arctic are going to kick ass soon. Too bad we wont have enough corn soon to slop them pigs

[villager]

9. exactly. but the OP could scarcely care less

N/t

[RagAss]

4. Is this a personal crusade?...Or part of a larger movement I missed....

I mean, I'm willing to say FUCK YOU to anyone for a good cause. Pass the tripe !

[DireStrike]

11. It's an ironic mirror post to a vegan thread. -nt-

[RagAss]

12. Thanks.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

44. "Or part of a larger movement I missed...."

Try this:

[Duckhunter935]

5. Yum

Do not care for eggnog but a good burger, brat, thick steak or a roasted chicken, mouth watering.

[lostincalifornia]

7. Just curious, who is telling you, you cannot eat what you want?

[kestrel91316]

21. Nobody. He's just acting like a bratty 12 yo.

[lostincalifornia]

37. that's what I suspected. Sounds like flame bait to me

[Gore1FL]

56. Apparently the OP of this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3877742

[Lochloosa]

8. Forward looking eyes and canine teeth.....yummm

[JanMichael]

10. This is old fat ass ugly dying fast bs imho.

Eat cow meat chicken shit and die for all I care just don't ask ME to pay for your idiot healthcare needs in the future.

[Warren DeMontague]

13. People should worry about what's on the end of their own fork.

Unfortunately, self-superiority and axe grinding all too often gets confused with "activism", and there are just way too many fundamentally miserable folks whose primary means of escaping their personal unhappiness seems to be to pepper others with endless boring, pompous lectures.

[Logical]

14. What the fuck is the purpose of this dumb post? nt

[Electric Monk]

23. To offend vegans? It's in reply to another thread (link here)

Eating heirloom raw organic vegan is the ultimate FUCK YOU to corporate America.

[Logical]

41. Ok, thanks, I missed that one! Appreciate the link! nt

[Scootaloo]

58. Bizarre that Archae seems to have taken it personally

I eat dead animals. I've even killed a few in order to eat 'em. I know that upsets people some people, and, well... I guess they'll be upset. I see no point to rub it in their faces, and if i know, I try real hard to be polite about it in fact, because people deserve respect, even if I don't share their beliefs, right?

What bugs me are people who think meat just magically appears on a styrofoam tray. I know damn well where my food comes from, and it's not by the wishes of the steak fairy. That apathetic or avoidant ignorance is a root cause of the problems in the industry, the attrude of "if I don't think about it then it's not there."

[bluestateguy]

15. I'm not vegan or vegetarian

But why the hostility? Why pick a fight?

[rawtribe]

16. Eat shit and die....

I don't give a fuck.

[klook]

17. And playing "Chopsticks" is the ultimate FUCK YOU to Rachmaninoff!!1!!/1!

And snorting uncut asafoetida is the ultimate FUCK YOU to curry powder!!1!!1!!

I'M LIKE YOU, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT FUCKING PISS ME OFF!!1!1! ESPECIALLY ANYTHING THAT SMACKS OF NUTRITIONAL CORRECTNESS!!1!!!1]11!!!1



Care to join me on the verandah for some wheat-grass juice and tripe?

[mucifer]

18. I'm a vegan. Eat whatever the f you want. I eat what I want.

I didn't ask you to jump on any bandwagon.

Don't be hostile to me and accuse me of being hostile to you.

Not every vegan tells you what to eat.

[AtheistCrusader]

48. A fair point.

I, likewise, won't belittle or wave a kebab in front of a vegan.

Falls outside the general 'don't be a dick' guidelines of human interaction.

[Kurska]

19. Enjoy it while you can we will all be eating "meat" grown from cultures in 10 years tops. n/t

[Deep13]

20. Well, that's not one of my goals.

Vegans (which I guess means "vegetarian," except they're really, really serious about it) can eat what they like. No skin off my nose. None of the ones I know "evangelize" over it.

[onehandle]

22. I'm a Pescetarian.

Look it up. I'm tired.

[Purrfessor]

47. I have aulophobia n/t

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

24. So why can't everybody chill out, eat what we want,

don't worry about what other people are eating, and don't go feeling all superior or defensive or whatever because you do or do not eat meat?

[Electric Monk]

26. Elton John has an explanation

[Archae]

27. I usually do like you say.

But this is from the original posting that I paraphrased:

"The SAD diet is designed to make us sick WITHOUT killing us right away. Its fine if we die several years down the road, after they've milked our sick asses for all we're worth. When we are bankrupt from our ill health brought on by our diet of fake 'food', then corporate America throws us to the lions and we die a miserable death, bankrupted because we're kicked off our for-profit "health insurance". Once we're bankrupt, we're no longer useful, err profitable to the profit scheme known as the modern American 'healthcare' system."

"If I were a sociopathic capitalist, I'd pick pharmaceuticals as my profit method. I'd collude with food giants. We'd work together to unleash GMO's laced with toxic pesticides that also are taken up by the roots of the plants that don't just wash off. You can't wash all of the pesticide residue off of a conventionally grow(non-organic) food. Much of the poison is absorbed into the plant from its surfaces or imbedded via root absorption."

"Conventional(non-organic) produce is a maker of sickness."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023877742

I see this once in a great while from vegans, this "look-down-their-noses" attitude towards those like myself who still love meat and dairy.

I call it "vegan evangelism," since some vegans look at us meat-eaters like we are SINNERS!!!

Fortunately most vegans and vegetarians aren't like this.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

29. Well, yeah; that thread did get a little overheated.

But that whole discussion takes me back to my original point. If somebody has a bug up their butt about what they think other people ought to be eating, maybe it's best to just shrug it off. They can't make you give up bacon, and trying to guilt people into changing their diets is rarely effective - it's just annoying. I'd rather not be annoyed. Yes, evangelical vegans are irritating, but evangelical anythings are irritating. I prefer to just walk away.

[Archae]

32. I agree, I only evangelize about chocolate.

[solarhydrocan]

34. Agreed but there's a new part of the equation now- mandatory insurance

Smokers are charged a lot more because they raise all rates.

So that door is open. Why shouldn't those that eat foods that cause heart disease, high cholesterol or other known problems pay more? And why stop there? Insurance companies effectively run the health industry now. You can bet they will be busy thinking up new ways to save money.

That's one of the biggest problems with the ACA. It does next to nothing to actually bring down the absurdly high cost of health CARE.

[Skittles]

45. how about people who don't exercise an hour a day?

let's make them pay more!!! How about people who drive on highways? EVEN MORE!!!

[petronius]

25. So you've got this whole group of people who have not only dedicated their lives

to not eating bacon, they've made it a mission to convince other people to not eat bacon. Which means more bacon for me and thee.

So, why would I want to say "Fuck you!" to this group of evangelists? I'm more inclined to built them a celebratory statue (out of all vegan materials, natch, with an adjoining snack bar serving vegan snacks).

(Setting aside, of course, the question of why I'd feel hostile or "fuck you"-inspired toward folk who after all are only espousing - whether or not I agree in specifics - a philosophy that is perfectly consistent with left-leaning principles - social, environmental, etc ...)

[Niceguy1]

31. just put some thick sliced

Costco bacon to defrost for the morning. My kids favorite.

[Fuddnik]

28. Food Fight!!!!!!!

[Archae]

30. Yeah!!!

[RobertEarl]

33. So, you eat vegans?

And stuff that drops from vegans?

Because, until we started feeding our industrial vegans all kinds of slop that is unfit for humans, that's what the animals you drool over were naturally: Vegans.

[Bradical79]

35. More like a FUCK YOU to cows, chickens, and piggies... -nt

[William769]

36. I don't know what spurred this on but I'm right there with you!

[Blue_In_AK]

38. This thread was inevitable.

[Liberal_in_LA]

39. negative rec

[madville]

40. I wish I had an eggnog and bourbon right now

My favorite dessert drink

[Yo_Mama]

42. Must we beat each other up?

Isn't life doing that just fine already?

[yewberry]

43. Like eating tofu is the ultimate FUCK YOU to meater evangelists?

Want to eat meat? Go ahead.

Just don't expect me to feel bad for the poor, persecuted majority when some misguided vegan noob decides to "enlighten" you.

I love clear arteries, low cholesterol, normal body weight, squash is back in season, a clear conscience, and STEREOTYPES!!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

46. I made wienerschnitzel last night....

Why do Americans think it's a boiled sausage with sauerkraut?

[Vashta Nerada]

49. Eat whatever the fuck you want to eat.

I'll eat whatever the fuck I want to eat.

Just don't preach to me. I hate being preached at, as does everyone else.

By the way, pass the bacon.

[easychoice]

50. Enjoy

[IMG][/IMG]

[LeftyMom]

51. When you eat chicken is it cannibalism?

Just curious, I've never seen a lecture on man's relationship with animals from a furvert who thinks they're a bird before.

[Electric Monk]

53. A furvert who thinks they're a bird? Please say you have a link. nt

[LeftyMom]

55. Yep.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x9472130

[Scootaloo]

61. Technically, archaeopteryx was a coelurosaur

Granted, the line between dinosaur and bird has gotten to the point where we might actually have to start considering some dinosaurs to actually be birds. either way, they're archosaurs - wild to think that your pet parakeet is more closely related to an alligator than to anything else that isn't a bird, huh?

Can't judge - I have this as my avatar and screen name:

[Archae]

60. Three points...

1. I am nor a "furvert," a pervert.
I enjoy good pin up art.

2. "Archae" is not a "bird."
He is an anthropomorphic archaeopteryx, an anthro version of a bird ANCESTOR.

3. Going after me using a harmless hobby is a low blow, in fact it's nearly Freeper-lelvel.

Oh and BTW? Many species of birds eat other birds.

[ConservativeDemocrat]

52. How about nobody saying FUCK YOU?

I mean seriously. Yes, some Vegans sounding more like they're in a cult than making a dietary choice (one loaded with pseudo-science to boot), but so what? You don't need to scream epithets at them. They're not hurting you.

Uh oh. Now you've done it. The "more sanctimoniously leftist than thou" brigade has shown up. They always do.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[flvegan]

54. Wow. Is that the goal?

Your statement is actually the ultimate FUCK YOU to your own health. Really the ultimate statement of "hey, I'm too stupid to know any better as an ego driven moron that knows nothing of nutrition beyond my taste buds!!"

Frankly, I don't care what you eat or how you eat it. Just don't bring me into it with your pathetic little "vegan evangelists" statement. Insecurity? Party of one, table for one.

Furry.

[NuclearDem]

57. Vegans like me would be a lot less preachy if we didn't have dickheaded shit like this to deal with.

Seriously, this is just barely up the dick ladder from "hurrrrr People Eating Tasty Animals!!!!11"

[flvegan]

59. LOL! That's a point in favor.

Dickheaded response will be dickheaded.