24 Billion Dollars - approx. I think the RNC should reimburse America from their campaign coffers.

[Tigress DEM]

Those in their party who STILL voted NO at the final hour, specifically and Eric Cantor who changed a House Rule to give himself personal authority over putting the government back to work, OWE the American people 24 Billion dollars.

Supposedly "for our own good" they staged this debacle, but in truth, they are trying to save their campaign contributors BIG Pharma and the like from losing money when ACA starts producing cost savings for the average consumer.

What do you think?

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	Should the RNC and NO voters foot the 24 Billion Dollar BILL they ran up?
	4 (80%)
	Or should we just add it to our great grandchildren's tab?
	0 (0%)
	JUST run them out on a rail
	1 (20%)
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[LuvNewcastle]

1. I also wouldn't have a problem with sending a bill to

each one of those teabagger districts. Maybe if they feel the pain, they'll be careful about who they elect next time. And I say that as someone with a teabagger Congressman who joined the shutdown group.

[Tigress DEM]

3. They're the party claiming to be all about personal responsibility... until they have to take some.

RIGHT - Elections have consequences.

We WON so we get to follow the rules and present laws that reflect a good direction for the country based on real research and evidence.

THEY LOST. Changing the rules because you lost and are losing again isn't just unsportsmanlike, it's CHEATING writ big.

[Buddha_of_Wisdom]

2. Seeing that the entire shutdown was a Republican sham to try to shake down voters

for fundraising purposes....

Yes, slap the bill to the RNC, FreedomWorks, Koch Brothers, Adelson, and any other right-wing organizations that wanted to make it an oligarchy and then sic the collection sharks after them 24/7. Get the RNC to shake down their usual billionaires to foot the bill.

Then officially kick the Tea Party assholes out of their party. Agree to turn the gavel over to the Democratic House. Rethuglican Party is down to 75 after the purge.

[Tigress DEM]

5. Their little MACHO MACHO Mans kind of display to encite their base.

I'd be happy to add:

FreedomWorks, Koch Brothers, Adelson, and any other right-wing organizations that wanted to make it an oligarchy to the billing chain and then sic the collection sharks after them 24/7.

Then when they complain send them emails with babies crying and a picture of a WHAMBULANCE, with the caption, "Ah, did your wittle feelings get hurt because you got caught being naughty? TOUGH call a WHAMBULANCE or 1-800-somonewhocares."

[99Forever]

4. Great sentiment.

But not ever going to happen.

[Tigress DEM]

6. Not in the strictly LEGAL sense, but as a form of protest, it could happen. nt

Do sign the petition to investigate the whys and wherefores of their misuse of their authority on my sig line.

THEY should pay one way or another.

[Tigress DEM]

7. Did we attract a troll or is seveneyes just a thoroughly discouraged DEM?

He thinks we should just roll over and add it to the great grand kid's tab.

It may wind up there, BUT these individuals will PAY for their reckless behavior with the US economy. ONE WAY or another. Financially, Politically, through Judicial means or all of the aforementioned.

THIS is their Benedict Arnold moment where they CHOSE their money changers over the people, right in front of the people's face on 24 hour news cycle and THEY MUST be held accountable.

[LiberalEsto]

8. Empty out Cruz's campaign accounts first

since he's the one who profiteered most from the shutdown.

[Tigress DEM]

9. Yeah, as King of the Hill would say, "That boy ain't right."

Well, he IS right.... too too FAR to the right, but at a certain point it's beyond ridiculous.

[Tigress DEM]

10. AWWW someone pick RIDE THEM OUT ON A RAIL!!!

Old fashioned expression, meaning just put them on a train out of town and tell them "Don't come back"

OK, it was a bit meaner than that, but basically the same idea. GO and never return.

[LuvNewcastle]

12. My understanding of "ridden out on a rail" is different.

Did you see 'O Brother, Where Art Thou?' Near the end, when the Klan guy is making his speech, they bring out a wooden rail and put the Klan guy on it and carry him out, presumably to take him out of town. I heard the expression used a lot when I was growing up, and that was the meaning I understood of the expression, anyway.

[Tigress DEM]

13. Yeah, you are right.

What is ironic, though, is that Nevada has been shipping their mentally ill patients to California on a one-way bus trip.

And literally, they did tie someone up on a rail and take them out of town. BUT the Don't come back, ya'hear? was still the MAIN message.

[Coyotl]

11. This was the intended consequence = torpedo Obama's economic recovery for political purposes

Obamacare defunding and all the other lame excuses are just a cover to obfuscate their treasonous behavior because they know it would have unacceptable political consequences to admit their true intentions, destroy the economy in order to further their dominionist goal for the new reich.

[Tigress DEM]

14. So the traitors and their minions should pay, not the people.

Up post, we thought we should add the Koch Brothers et al to the list as well.

Even if it's only symbolic we should invoice them for our bills and maybe even add lines for pain and suffering.

THEY were CAUGHT and they should pay in every legal way possible.

Sign the petition in my sig line if you agree.

[Tigress DEM]

15. WHO were they again? The 144

No Votes (144)
Member Party Dist.
Robert B. Aderholt R AL-4
Justin Amash R MI-3
Mark Amodei R NV-2
Michele Bachmann R MN-6
Andy Barr R KY-6
Joe L. Barton R TX-6
Kerry Bentivolio R MI-11
Rob Bishop R UT-1
Diane Black R TN-6
Marsha Blackburn R TN-7
Kevin Brady R TX-8
Jim Bridenstine R OK-1
Mo Brooks R AL-5
Paul Broun R GA-10
Larry Bucshon R IN-8
Michael C. Burgess R TX-26
John Campbell R CA-45
John Carter R TX-31
Bill Cassidy R LA-6
Steven J. Chabot R OH-1
Jason Chaffetz R UT-3
Chris Collins R NY-27
Doug Collins R GA-9
K. Michael Conaway R TX-11
John Culberson R TX-7
Ron DeSantis R FL-6
Jeffrey Denham R CA-10
Scott DesJarlais R TN-4
Sean Duffy R WI-7
Jeffrey Duncan R SC-3
John J. Duncan Jr. R TN-2
Renee Ellmers R NC-2
Blake Farenthold R TX-27
Stephen Fincher R TN-8
Chuck Fleischmann R TN-3
John Fleming R LA-4
Bill Flores R TX-17
J. Randy Forbes R VA-4
Virginia Foxx R NC-5
Trent Franks R AZ-8
Scott Garrett R NJ-5
Bob Gibbs R OH-7
Phil Gingrey R GA-11
Louie Gohmert R TX-1
Robert W. Goodlatte R VA-6
Paul Gosar R AZ-4
Trey Gowdy R SC-4
Kay Granger R TX-12
Sam Graves R MO-6
Tom Graves R GA-14
Morgan Griffith R VA-9
Ralph M. Hall R TX-4
Andy Harris R MD-1
Vicky Hartzler R MO-4
Jeb Hensarling R TX-5
George Holding R NC-13
Richard Hudson R NC-8
Tim Huelskamp R KS-1
Bill Huizenga R MI-2
Randy Hultgren R IL-14
Duncan D. Hunter R CA-50
Robert Hurt R VA-5
Bill Johnson R OH-6
Sam Johnson R TX-3
Walter B. Jones R NC-3
Jim Jordan R OH-4
Steve King R IA-4
Jack Kingston R GA-1
Doug LaMalfa R CA-1
Raul Labrador R ID-1
Doug Lamborn R CO-5
James Lankford R OK-5
Robert E. Latta R OH-5
Billy Long R MO-7
Frank D. Lucas R OK-3
Blaine Luetkemeyer R MO-3
Cynthia M. Lummis R WY-1
Kenny Marchant R TX-24
Tom Marino R PA-10
Thomas Massie R KY-4
Michael McCaul R TX-10
Tom McClintock R CA-4
Mark Meadows R NC-11
Luke Messer R IN-6
John L. Mica R FL-7
Candice S. Miller R MI-10
Jeff Miller R FL-1
Markwayne Mullin R OK-2
Mick Mulvaney R SC-5
Randy Neugebauer R TX-19
Kristi Noem R SD-1
Richard Nugent R FL-11
Alan Nunnelee R MS-1
Pete Olson R TX-22
Steven Palazzo R MS-4
Steve Pearce R NM-2
Scott Perry R PA-4
Tom Petri R WI-6
Joe Pitts R PA-16
Ted Poe R TX-2
Mike Pompeo R KS-4
Bill Posey R FL-8
Tom Price R GA-6
Trey Radel R FL-19
Tom Reed R NY-23
Jim Renacci R OH-16
Tom Rice R SC-7
Martha Roby R AL-2
Phil Roe R TN-1
Mike D. Rogers R AL-3
Dana Rohrabacher R CA-48
Todd Rokita R IN-4
Tom Rooney R FL-17
Dennis Ross R FL-15
Keith Rothfus R PA-12
Ed Royce R CA-39
Paul D. Ryan R WI-1
Matt Salmon R AZ-5
Mark Sanford R SC-1
Steve Scalise R LA-1
David Schweikert R AZ-6
Austin Scott R GA-8
F. James Sensenbrenner R WI-5
Pete Sessions R TX-32
Jason Smith R MO-8
Lamar Smith R TX-21
Steve Southerland R FL-2
Chris Stewart R UT-2
Steve Stockman R TX-36
Marlin Stutzman R IN-3
William M. Thornberry R TX-13
Michael R. Turner R OH-10
Ann Wagner R MO-2
Tim Walberg R MI-7
Greg Walden R OR-2
Jackie Walorski R IN-2
Randy Weber R TX-14
Brad Wenstrup R OH-2
Lynn Westmoreland R GA-3
Roger Williams R TX-25
Joe Wilson R SC-2
Rob Woodall R GA-7
Kevin Yoder R KS-3
Ted Yoho R FL-3
Did Not Vote (3)
Member Party Dist.
Carolyn McCarthy D NY-4
Bobby L. Rush D IL-1
C. W. Bill Young R FL-13

[Tigress DEM]

16. The Senate 18

No Votes (18)
Member Party State
Tom Coburn R OK
John Cornyn R TX
Michael D. Crapo R ID
Ted Cruz R TX
Michael B. Enzi R WY
Charles E. Grassley R IA
Dean Heller R NV
Ron Johnson R WI
Mike Lee R UT
Rand Paul R KY
Jim Risch R ID
Pat Roberts R KS
Marco Rubio R FL
Tim Scott R SC
Jeff Sessions R AL
Richard C. Shelby R AL
Patrick J. Toomey R PA
David Vitter R LA



AND the
"Did Not Vote" (1)
Member Party State
James M. Inhofe R OK

[TriplD]

17. Dems need to be demanding how they intend to "offset" it.

Since they were demanding any spending be offset, they owe the American people an explanation of how that will be offset.

[Tigress DEM]

18. Obviously people making 1/2, 3/4 1 million or more a year can pony up a tad more.

It's just a measly 24 billion after all. Pocket change to that crew.