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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSomething to think about before talking about a school shooting.
From my novel A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Columbine:
I stopped again, and looked over the three of them. Topher was glaring even worse than he had been during Micks screed. Whitey looked intrigued, as if he guessed where I was going. Mick just crossed his arms and defiantly prodded me. Go on.
By all rights, Columbine should have gotten the message across loud and clear to kids across the country: dont fuck with the wrong people or you will end up dead. It didnt, though, and neither did the killings that came later, because people love victims. Because a couple of kids who were sick of being kicked around killed their oppressors, they wound up making themselves into the bad guys, and made the bad guys into victims in everyones eyes. People were too overcome with grief over the senseless bloodshed to think about what had driven the two shooters to do what they did. And for those jocks, having their blood spilled wound up washing away their sins as far as everyone was concerned. Dont think about what they were really like, turn them into perfect little angels in everyones eyes. And, personally, I am not really in favor of giving the world of jocks any new martyrs.
These shootings are tragedies, but they're preventable. And they're preventable by stopping our culture's practice of lifting up bullies who torment kids until those kids feel they have no choice but to take the law into their own hands.
The lines between victim and villain get very blurry in these cases, and until we start punishing bullies instead of ignoring, downplaying, and canonizing them, this is going to happen.
Until we start taking the sides of the REAL victims BEFORE they feel the need to pick up a gun, this is going to happen.
Until we stop making heroes out of oppressors and villains out of victims, this is going to happen.
Warpy
(112,983 posts)and teach him one of life's harsher lessons, hurt him. Don't kill him.
The only thing a bully will ever understand is that he can be hurt, too. Once he learns that lesson, he's never quite the same. He always has to wonder which one of his victims will snap and put him into the hospital.
Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)Two kids "fight" in school, and under "zero tolerance" they both get suspended or expelled.
Too often school administrators look the other way when it comes to bullying, or downplay complaints about bullies.
If we started treating bullies as the thugs they are instead of rewarding them, maybe we'd stop them.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)date-rape and sexual assault. Fortunately, our society is starting to move away from that. But it needs to go further.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)Columbine should be set apart in that it wasn't about bullying. Eric Harris was actually quite popular from all accounts. The media gave us the "Trenchcoat Mafia" and the bullying story. Eric Harris was a psychopath who hooked up with a depressed individual.
Finnmccool
(74 posts)They were more bullies than bullied. Their victims were not jocks they were low hanging fruit to them.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)but I thought the "Columbine shooters were bullied kids who were tired of getting beaten up" -meme was LONG since debunked??
Bucky
(55,334 posts)And anyway, if there'd been social safeguards policing unwarranted peer aggression in place, the Columbine shooters would not have occurred. That sort of violence does not happen in a vacuum.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Adam Lanza was bullied in elementary school, too...That doesn't excuse him gunning down a bunch of kids as a 20-year-old...
Bucky
(55,334 posts)Who exactly was excusing that crime?
Finnmccool
(74 posts)both of those guys hid it very well
One was a master con artist a Eddie Haskell on steroids
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)Eric Harris was a textbook psychopath.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)kiva
(4,373 posts)but there are still a lot of people who don't seem to know that; every time there's a school shooting - which is too often, even once is too often - there are always posts about Columbine and bullying. It may have become so ingrained into our common consciousness that it has replaced the truth
Bucky
(55,334 posts)Bullies are responsible for far more many deaths than the retaliation of bullying victims.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)it is not just the kids. We live in a culture that idolizes bullies, period.
maxsolomon
(34,733 posts)he killed his math teacher. was he aiming at bullies?
it's probably too soon to know.
Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)That's an example of a hero.