You know how because of 9-11, airplane passengers will gang tackle any one who acts like they might

[quinnox]

be doing something, either a terrorist act or just causing trouble? There have been several instances where this has happened after 9-11, where the passengers aren't like peaceful sheep, like they used to be before the 9-11 attacks, but instead, aggressively and actively intervene and jump the troublemakers or attempted terrorist wanna-bees.

Well, I was thinking about all these school shootings we have had lately. And the heroism of that teacher. What if the students (obviously they would need to be at least high school age) had this kind of attitude, that they would gang tackle any shooter? At least it would make these shooters think twice about starting their killing sprees, if they knew they might be facing a mob of people attacking them.

That said, I fully realize this kind of courage is easy to talk about, but when faced with an actual situation, it is a whole different ballgame. I'm not saying this would be an easy thing to do, far from it, but just that it would be an interesting development and maybe stop some of these school shootings or at least limit the carnage some, if this happened.

[dipsydoodle]

1. Not necessarily a good example you've used in the instance

other than in the USA where 9/11 has some residual meaning.

[geek tragedy]

2. So, the problem in your view is that school children are a bunch of cowards. nt

[JI7]

3. people already try to stop shooters, but when they have a gun it can be a bit difficult

and get them killed like the teacher yesterday, and all the other teachers and students who died trying to stop the shooter.

[quinnox]

4. one person can't take on a mob of people rushing them, even with a gun

They have a back-side, they can't be all directions at once.

[JI7]

8. yes, that's why they are eventually stopped , you assume this doesn't happen when it already does

but often the shooter will just shoot himself.

also the situation on a plane is different since people are just sitting there.

when there is a shooting people don't always know where it's coming from.

[Decaffeinated]

15. No where to go...

If we are going to insist on keeping teachers and administrators unarmed then we certainly shouldn't advocate for the bum rush method of dealing with shooters....

[onenote]

5. In a lot of these situations, the shooter has no regard for his own life

So why would he think twice? He'll shoot until the moment comes where either he's going to be shot or he shoots himself.

[quinnox]

6. that wouldn't make any difference

if a mob of people are gonna jump the shooter, he will go down, no matter how suicidal he might be.

[onenote]

9. Sure, but why would it make the shooter think twice?

If the shooter is prepared to die, the fact that they may (or may not) get gang tackled after only shooting a couple of people wouldn't necessarily make them think twice. It may limit the damage they are able to do, but that's not the point I was responding to.

[lunasun]

7. You first

[JHB]

10. You might be unhappy to learn that this has already been proposed...

Rebuttal at Addicting Info:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/12/18/newsweek-contributor-thinks-newtown-kids-should-have-rushed-the-shooter-video/

I’ll stop here for a moment to let that mental image sink in, a dozen 6-year-olds running towards an armed man actively shooting at them.

…

Got it? No? Because here’s what it looks like. This guy starts off with a lever-action rifle, a much slower rate of fire than the AR-15 used in Newtown, and he’d still have no trouble finishing of a rampaging horde of Dora the Explorer fans in a matter of seconds. Skip forward a bit to see what it actually looks like with a semi-automatic weapon, when the rate of fire truly picks up steam.

Who doesn’t want to run straight in to that?!? Let’s go!

[quinnox]

13. In my OP, I said the people would need to be at least high school age to be effective

in this reaction, and also, not every shooter is going to have a rapid fire type weapon. A lot of shootings they don't have these type guns, but the ones that do just get all the publicity.

[petronius]

11. I think the decision-making changes on the ground, where you may perceive

an escape route, versus in the air where you're really not going anywhere. Plus, the density of people will likely be higher on the plane, whereas the shooter on the ground can get started with some distance between him/herself and any likely interveners. Which means that some possible tacklers will likely have to choose to pass up a possible escape - a more difficult choice, I'd think, than when confined in an airplane...

[cui bono]

12. My first thought was congressional gang tackles against idiots who want to shutdown the govt.

[Pab Sungenis]

14. How about we prevent the shootings in the first place

by expelling bullies, not their victims?

[Nye Bevan]

16. The difference is, there are no guns on planes.

If somebody started to brandish a boxcutter around in a school, I'm pretty sure he would be gang-tackled.

[TeamPooka]

17. this

[La Lioness Priyanka]

18. this. nt