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cali

(114,904 posts)
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 07:48 AM Oct 2013

Dick Durbin: GOP leader told Obama ‘I cannot even stand to look at you’

The No. 2 Democrat in the Senate, Sen. Dick Durbin, says that a House Republican leader told off President Barack Obama during a negotiation meeting, and that they are so disrespectful it’s practically impossible to have a conversation with them.

“In a ‘negotiation’ meeting with the president, one GOP House Leader told the president: ‘I cannot even stand to look at you,’” Durbin wrote in a post on his Facebook page over the weekend.

Calling a government shutdown strategy from Republicans “disastrous,” Durbin did not specify which leader made the comment, what the context was or how the president responded.

The Senate majority whip offered the comment as rebuttal to the Republican argument that Obama does not do enough to communicate with Republicans, essentially saying to do so is impossible.

“What are the chances of an honest conversation with someone who has just said something so disrespectful?” Durbin wrote.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/dick-durbin-repubican-leader-obama-98720.html#ixzz2iXqiFfum

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Dick Durbin: GOP leader told Obama ‘I cannot even stand to look at you’ (Original Post) cali Oct 2013 OP
Even though Obama wouldn't say so I'd bet the feeling was mutual. hobbit709 Oct 2013 #1
I agree gopiscrap Oct 2013 #76
I bet it's not Bucky Oct 2013 #96
Tolerating a viewpoint doesn't mean not thinking "What an asshole" hobbit709 Oct 2013 #98
Fair enough. But thinking someone's an asshole doesn't mean you can't stand to look at them Bucky Oct 2013 #100
He doesn't see him anyway. He's blinded by hate. nt kelliekat44 Oct 2013 #111
huh? hobbit709 Oct 2013 #112
I saw this on Facebook Gothmog Oct 2013 #2
You can always tell who is the problem by simply fasttense Oct 2013 #43
I Agree With Your Sentments DallasNE Oct 2013 #86
The "new" republicans are complete asses, disrupter's and terrorists. They do not RKP5637 Oct 2013 #3
yes yes and no Bucky Oct 2013 #101
Yes, what you say is quite true! RKP5637 Oct 2013 #104
Al-Quaeda never shut down the US Government but the repubs did...... TheDebbieDee Oct 2013 #115
I'm willing to bet it was Cantor Sedona Oct 2013 #4
that would be my guess too. cali Oct 2013 #11
That was my first thought. Bolo Boffin Oct 2013 #15
No way. In fact Durbin should have called him out by name. This is unacceptable lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #34
"No way" ashling Oct 2013 #54
I think u misread what the comment said... glowing Oct 2013 #73
The reason I interpreted it that way ashling Oct 2013 #90
I think cantor is more insidious and would not be so direct. I also think Durbin should have called lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #97
I don't. DeSwiss Oct 2013 #125
Since the president is now either providing cover for the rethugs, or calling Durbin a liar lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #127
That's eleventy-dimensional chess for ya! :-/ n/t DeSwiss Oct 2013 #128
Throwing in a vote for Cantor rurallib Oct 2013 #46
Me too Nite Owl Oct 2013 #63
I was thinking Cruz... magical thyme Oct 2013 #64
Kantor frog64 Oct 2013 #79
I rather doubt it was Cantor. burning rain Oct 2013 #94
Sounds like something any number of those asses might say but I'd guess... CurtEastPoint Oct 2013 #5
wow, back when he had eyebrows! demwing Oct 2013 #18
No, it's poor hygiene. alfredo Oct 2013 #55
Unibrow. Jazzgirl Oct 2013 #82
On assholes, it's called a Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #87
Smarmy even in high school. Quite a prodigy. tanyev Oct 2013 #20
Ivan? rickford66 Oct 2013 #42
Yep, we need to start saying... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #84
If we all go back to High School... Guilded Lilly Oct 2013 #88
That guy looks like the football team's special project jmowreader Oct 2013 #92
infantile jackasses leftyohiolib Oct 2013 #6
That's the thing. We should stop addressing them as if they were adults BlueStreak Oct 2013 #13
Wow, some of the comments following the article...... Esse Quam Videri Oct 2013 #7
man you aren't kidding rurallib Oct 2013 #48
It has become what it has always been... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #85
no,racism along with sexism Tumbulu Oct 2013 #136
What I am trying to say... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #137
but I think that hate radio Tumbulu Oct 2013 #138
I can agree with that. nt awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #139
The most ill-mannered lout who ever covered such a hateful self with a suit, he's no doubt like ancianita Oct 2013 #8
writing something and saying something are two different things. Javaman Oct 2013 #9
Could be. I don't trust Durbin, especially considering what he's said LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #16
saying something about SS is one thing, stating that you said what he claims to have said Javaman Oct 2013 #17
This is a few days old and no one from the GOP has refuted it BeyondGeography Oct 2013 #19
Durbin was smart to get this out there BeyondGeography Oct 2013 #10
Durbin is not to be trusted, he is not nameing the preson who did it so what is the point? Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #28
A post full of irrelevancies BeyondGeography Oct 2013 #32
I don't trust people whose judgement has caused them to take bigoted actions against me. Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #50
Disagree. Without a name or time, it is worthless. Mass Oct 2013 #59
Lyin' Ryan? Brigid Oct 2013 #12
sophomoric and moronic ailsagirl Oct 2013 #129
I'm betting that person Durbin is talking about would be... TRoN33 Oct 2013 #14
Typical child response to an adult when they cannot get their way. mikeysnot Oct 2013 #21
congressional racists spanone Oct 2013 #22
Don't wanna look? Avoid looking, dimwit, and deal. drynberg Oct 2013 #23
IMO Mr Dixon Oct 2013 #24
I'm almost certain Cantor did not make that remark... PCIntern Oct 2013 #25
True then... TRoN33 Oct 2013 #29
I take your point... PCIntern Oct 2013 #49
Because he was against this mess in the first place and does not want to be linked with it. Mass Oct 2013 #58
I beg to differ. carla Oct 2013 #65
He is not a standup guy (if he was, he would have opposed the shutdown against his caucus) Mass Oct 2013 #67
Totally agree. This is not his style. Mass Oct 2013 #57
I am also ashamed that he is a fellow Jew Gothmog Oct 2013 #80
With all the ugliness (teabagger posters, racist jokes and comments about Obama) by the AlinPA Oct 2013 #121
Name the name or don't make the claim HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #26
Agree stongly with what you say. Durbin as a DOMA Yes voter and seeker of Social Security Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #30
Exactly. It is a disrespect for the office. Durbin is stupid for not exposing the person lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #35
Yes, it is. I'd welcome the unknown GOP leader getting the public spanking HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #39
Yes, and it is way past over due that they haters are called out lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #40
You make a very valid point. can't argue against what you said. cali Oct 2013 #36
Durbin is acting to protect the Republican twit and also extending the audience for the twit's Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #53
Someone is stuck in "terrible twos" mode. City Lights Oct 2013 #27
My guess is Jeb Hensarling from TX, chairman of the House Financial Services Committee LonePirate Oct 2013 #31
Issa and cantor wouldn't do it. They would be so direct lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #37
House Republican "Leadership" ashling Oct 2013 #102
This should be on the headlines of every newspaper and Newscast. These thugs need to be exposed lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #33
I agree. The voters involved need to know the real representative they elected. HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #41
For Republicans, that is an improvement! DFW Oct 2013 #38
I bet it was Huelskamp. ZRT2209 Oct 2013 #44
Or McCarthy Recursion Oct 2013 #62
until we get a name I'll assume they all said it eShirl Oct 2013 #45
LOL, I'm with you on that assumption. n/t Turborama Oct 2013 #72
Worst things have been said to and about the President. Dems know it and no one that knows bonniebgood Oct 2013 #47
Disrespect to our nation...that they say they love. DonRedwood Oct 2013 #51
Reading that made me very angry, hate thrown in Obama's face Southside Oct 2013 #52
If Durbin wants to make claims like that, he should name names. Mass Oct 2013 #56
Name names Durbin Autumn Oct 2013 #60
I agree. Boomerproud Oct 2013 #118
I read recently that Boehner hates Obama. It was at the beginning Frustratedlady Oct 2013 #61
That's the effect of their own propaganda on their brains. gtar100 Oct 2013 #66
Absolutely Disgusting and Cowardly Stainless Oct 2013 #68
It matters that we know which one said it. It's totally believable, given all the ugliness AlinPA Oct 2013 #119
fucking racists basterds .. are just full of hatred srican69 Oct 2013 #69
Remember the "YOU LIE" outburst during SOU Address? That level of disrespect is mind-blowing. KittyWampus Oct 2013 #70
Yes. It's behavior that is hard to imagine happening from a Congressperson to a white President. LuckyLib Oct 2013 #103
why doesn't durbin stop being such a chicken shit alato Oct 2013 #71
Is there any reason to believe this actually happened? YarnAddict Oct 2013 #74
Look at the history of all the teabagger racist remarks and hatred they throw at Obama. AlinPA Oct 2013 #122
Fucking sociopaths. polichick Oct 2013 #75
perhaps it has something to do with this episode..... Historic NY Oct 2013 #77
I think we have our winner. Brigid Oct 2013 #78
Name please, Sen Durbin! NastyRiffraff Oct 2013 #81
I am sure there are often very strong statements made between these people... Guilded Lilly Oct 2013 #83
K&R. I am pretty unhappy with Durbin. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #89
look at you! LOOK AT YOU! MisterP Oct 2013 #91
It's certainly credible. burning rain Oct 2013 #93
White House and speakers office say it didn't happen. 1KansasDem Oct 2013 #95
Good catch low number poster with not much Longevity here. Thucydides Oct 2013 #117
Thanks for your indulgence. 1KansasDem Oct 2013 #120
Your welcome, 1KansasDem. Thucydides Oct 2013 #140
i've heard people say they can't hopemountain Oct 2013 #99
Durbin Needs To Name Names DallasNE Oct 2013 #105
+1 glinda Oct 2013 #135
This proves something to me... dakdirty Oct 2013 #106
how much you want to bet two things DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #107
Marcia Blackburn seems like a good candidate? kentuck Oct 2013 #108
The problem is, without a name, every Gopper is a suspect RVN VET Oct 2013 #114
That goes both ways.... ReRe Oct 2013 #109
... Tx4obama Oct 2013 #110
I'm so sick of hearing Obama won't play nice with the re thugs BobbyBoring Oct 2013 #113
Sadly, I feel the exact same way about every Repug I meet Corruption Inc Oct 2013 #116
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #123
This needs to get through the media filter and out in plain view. BootinUp Oct 2013 #124
Some people are moved to rage just at the mention of him Sedona Oct 2013 #126
k & r! n/t wildbilln864 Oct 2013 #130
Then throw the hate right back at them Francois Jeopardy Oct 2013 #131
Has Debbie Wasserman demanded an apology from this Republican sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #132
Disgusting that these people have power over the country. merrily Oct 2013 #133
I can't even imagine having something like this aimed at me Grateful for Hope Oct 2013 #134

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
96. I bet it's not
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 05:09 PM
Oct 2013

If anything defines Obama's style, it's his tolerance of others' viewpoints. Even if he doesn't like the person, I've never seen him go off and show outright disrespect to someone. I've never heard reports of him doing so. And don't tell me "Oh, you'd never hear about that sort of thing." The Bushies were twice as sheltered and secretive as Obama's people, but stories about that president's disrespectful attitude toward people who weren't "his base" got out quite frequently.

Obama has been nothing but gracious to those who oppose him politically. He acts that way because he knows what a president can be and what he should be. And more, he lives up to those standards. This, ultimately, is why he wins and the Grand Old Pantpissers lose. He shows more class.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
100. Fair enough. But thinking someone's an asshole doesn't mean you can't stand to look at them
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 05:26 PM
Oct 2013

Again, I just don't think that same level of pettiness and incivility lurks in the man. YMMV, but I don't think the sentiment is there, champing to be unleashed.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
111. He doesn't see him anyway. He's blinded by hate. nt
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 07:11 PM
Oct 2013

That's how I meant to say it. Did not mean "you." Sorry.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
43. You can always tell who is the problem by simply
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:25 AM
Oct 2013

Listening to who is accusing who of what.

If the Republicons are accusing the President of being unreasonable then it is the Republicons that are being unreasonable.

The Tea baggers are complaining that the government deficit is out of control so they shut the government down and cost the government another 24 BILLION dollars.

Republicons ran on "where are the jobs" but have put forth not one jobs bill in the past 2 years, complaining the entire time about the democrats having increased the unemployment rate.

The problem is that nearly everyone of the Politicians in Washington DC are corrupt and bought by big business so the only way to make themselves look good is to blame the other guy of doing what they themselves are doing.

DallasNE

(8,002 posts)
86. I Agree With Your Sentments
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 01:50 PM
Oct 2013

But the estimated "24 BILLION dollars" is not the cost to the government but the amount lost to GDP that will dampen 4th qtr. GDP by .6%. The cost to the government is estimated to be something like $1.6B.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
3. The "new" republicans are complete asses, disrupter's and terrorists. They do not
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 07:53 AM
Oct 2013

belong in a democracy. They are dangerous thugs. More and more Americans, and the world, are recognizing this, finally.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
101. yes yes and no
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 05:29 PM
Oct 2013

No, they're not terrorists. They're policies are dangerous and polls show they've run off a lot of their support. The Tea Party screwballs haven't blown up any buildings. Let's not erode the language.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
104. Yes, what you say is quite true!
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 06:03 PM
Oct 2013

"According to the National Advisory Committee on Criminal Justice Standards and Goals, there are six distinct types of terrorism. All of them share the common traits of being violent acts that destroy property, invoke fear and attempt to harm the lives of civilians."

http://www.crimemuseum.org/library/terrorism/typesOfTerrorism.html

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
115. Al-Quaeda never shut down the US Government but the repubs did......
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 07:41 PM
Oct 2013

I think these repubs, the domestic enemy that the Constitution warns us about, are just as dangerous because so many Americans like you ARE IN DENIAL!

These domestic nitwits ARE terrorists - they just haven't killed anybody outright, yet!

ashling

(25,771 posts)
54. "No way"
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:43 AM
Oct 2013

Why do you say that? Do you have some reason to suspect someone else? Do you think that Cantor would be too civil and/or diplomatic to say this?

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
73. I think u misread what the comment said...
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 11:20 AM
Oct 2013

"No way", meaning, unbelievable how rude and disgusting these asshats are... Followed up by wishing that Sen Durbin had used the actual name of the "leader" in the Republicon party that would say that to the President.

And I agree! This is disgusting. It's not politics; it's become personal and partisan. As such, names need to be called out. Don't let their shit hide behind closed doors and forms of professional decorum. We need to know who these TeaBagging terrorists are. We need to know who to go after and let the constituents know oh their representative is behaving. (Although in some gerrymandered districts, the comment would have been met with applause like they did when Jan Brewer wagged her finger at the President).

ashling

(25,771 posts)
90. The reason I interpreted it that way
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 02:26 PM
Oct 2013

is tha
your post was made as a reply to post #4 suggesting that it was Cantor, and not to the original post.

lostincalifornia

(5,331 posts)
97. I think cantor is more insidious and would not be so direct. I also think Durbin should have called
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 05:14 PM
Oct 2013

the repuke out.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
125. I don't.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:34 PM
Oct 2013

In fact, it's perfect. Now whomever it was that did say it, must either hide to avoid the obvious payback from Dems and the public in-general, or stand tall an admit he's a proud Bagger. If he stays silent, the other Bagheads will know he's spineless ass who's afraid to stand by his words. If he outs himself, it's one more nail in these racist's coffin.

- It's win-win either way because this kind of soap-opera crap is the only ''news'' the MSM is capable and willing to ferret out. I'll give it a week at best before we know.....

lostincalifornia

(5,331 posts)
127. Since the president is now either providing cover for the rethugs, or calling Durbin a liar
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 10:28 PM
Oct 2013

The repukes know there is no payback because of what the administration just said, that is denying it ever occurred

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
64. I was thinking Cruz...
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 10:27 AM
Oct 2013

but just reread the OP and realized it was a HOUSE leader, not senate. I'd really like to know who it was. He/she/it needs to be outed.

burning rain

(4,393 posts)
94. I rather doubt it was Cantor.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 04:29 PM
Oct 2013

Fairly hot racism seems almost necessary to motivate such a horrid statement, and Cantor isn't a bad guy on race, as Republicans go. He attended an Edmund Pettus Bridge commemoration with John Lewis and seemed genuinely moved, and was a rare Republican to promote strengthening the Voting Rights Act after the Supreme Court's five Republican justices gutted it. I'm no babe in the woods -- I'm sure a lot of House Republicans would think such a thing and some of the wilder ones like Broun or Gohmert might say it -- I just doubt Cantor would.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
88. If we all go back to High School...
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 02:17 PM
Oct 2013

we realize we knew ourselves pretty well then, before the outside world gets a hold of us and we have to deal with all kinds of agendas and game playing and drama.

Looks like young Eric was no different.
And young Eric hasn't changed.
He just has the scary capacity, now, to effect more than the halls of his high school.

jmowreader

(53,165 posts)
92. That guy looks like the football team's special project
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 04:05 PM
Oct 2013

I wonder: what percentage of teabaggers were either bullied or bullies as children? That could explain a lot.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
13. That's the thing. We should stop addressing them as if they were adults
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 08:08 AM
Oct 2013

They are spoiled children in every sense of the word, and deserve to be treated that way.

Those who behave like adults should get our respect, even if we disagree. That generally includes McConnell and Boehner. But people like Cantor, Cruz and that ilk should be addressed like the obstreperous children they are.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
85. It has become what it has always been...
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 01:50 PM
Oct 2013

the racism that was hidden under the surface for many years just boiled to the top when Obama took office.

Tumbulu

(6,630 posts)
136. no,racism along with sexism
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 01:33 AM
Oct 2013

was revived and cultivated in the minds of the population via 25+ years of hate radio and television. It is tragic that the hate mongers were not stopped and I do not consider it free speech to use public airwaves to incite hate and violence to particular group of people.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
137. What I am trying to say...
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 01:39 AM
Oct 2013

is the haters never went away, they just went covert for a while. As to talk radio bringing it to the fore, I will agree with you. Hate radio just serves as an echo chamber to what these assholes believe. With it, they think their scapegoating has legitimacy.

Tumbulu

(6,630 posts)
138. but I think that hate radio
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 02:00 AM
Oct 2013

Last edited Thu Oct 24, 2013, 11:36 PM - Edit history (1)

spread the racism and sexism and ensured that it did not die out a generation ago, as it would have without this fertilizing effect. Racism and sexism have grown, rather than died out, as it would have if left alone and not encouraged.

ancianita

(43,303 posts)
8. The most ill-mannered lout who ever covered such a hateful self with a suit, he's no doubt like
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 07:55 AM
Oct 2013

many of his constituents.

Javaman

(65,676 posts)
9. writing something and saying something are two different things.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 07:56 AM
Oct 2013

Me thinks that durbin love to exercise his use of hyperbole. I would love to see the transcript of what he actually said.

I think durbin is full of shit.

LuvNewcastle

(17,806 posts)
16. Could be. I don't trust Durbin, especially considering what he's said
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 08:09 AM
Oct 2013

lately about cutting Social Security.

Javaman

(65,676 posts)
17. saying something about SS is one thing, stating that you said what he claims to have said
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 08:11 AM
Oct 2013

to the President is something completely different.

he's a showboating gasbag.

BeyondGeography

(41,075 posts)
19. This is a few days old and no one from the GOP has refuted it
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 08:24 AM
Oct 2013

Of course, such attitudes are a point of pride with their base, so why would they? Which also, if you think about it, makes it more likely than not that Durbin is not bullshitting.

BeyondGeography

(41,075 posts)
10. Durbin was smart to get this out there
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 07:57 AM
Oct 2013

The MSM won't do anything with it but it can pre-empt their "Obama needs to lead" bullshit or at least deflect it. On a deeper level, it shows what kind of sickness we're dealing with here.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
28. Durbin is not to be trusted, he is not nameing the preson who did it so what is the point?
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 08:55 AM
Oct 2013

To make more trouble? This guy voted for DOMA, gleefully attempting to prevent equal rights for a minority group he has religious issues with. He has been banging his 'let's cut Social Security because Granny eats too much' bullshit constantly.
Why does he refuse to name the offender? Because he's a 'bipartisan centrist' who refuses to harm his friends in the Republican 'we want cuts too' Party.
Durbin probably said it himself. He's a sack of bigotry as we already know from the DOMA vote.

BeyondGeography

(41,075 posts)
32. A post full of irrelevancies
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:03 AM
Oct 2013

which is standard from you.

Durbin is not so stupid as to make the President part of a lie. Other than that, the vehemence with which you implicitly vouch for the GOP's good name is touching.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
50. I don't trust people whose judgement has caused them to take bigoted actions against me.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:37 AM
Oct 2013

Would you?
And it is Durbin who is protecting some Republican by not mentioning the name. Why is he doing that? Because they are his 'peers' and he will need them to help him get his desired cuts to Social Security. The fact that Durbin will not name a person who said such a foul thing, but Durbin had no problem destroying the lives of millions of innocent gay people with his DOMA bigotry shows us all who Durbin serves, and that is himself and his pals in the GOP.
Note you made ugly personal comments while I am talking about the actions of an elected official, not about you. There is no call for that and it is all yours, you introduced the personal attack mode to the thread. Rude and pointless.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
59. Disagree. Without a name or time, it is worthless.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 10:06 AM
Oct 2013

When was this? If it is not the last round of negotiation, when did it happen?

ailsagirl

(24,287 posts)
129. sophomoric and moronic
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 10:47 PM
Oct 2013

It's like the guy who, deprived of a good comeback, yells, "So's your old lady!!!"

The fact that PBO is so innately cool and of the highest caliber must drive them NUTS!! They can't get a rise out of him.

They keep looking worse and worse.

mikeysnot

(4,924 posts)
21. Typical child response to an adult when they cannot get their way.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 08:35 AM
Oct 2013

I guess his next comment was "I hate you"....

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
23. Don't wanna look? Avoid looking, dimwit, and deal.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 08:44 AM
Oct 2013

Do your friggin' job or resign. Had it.

PCIntern

(28,338 posts)
25. I'm almost certain Cantor did not make that remark...
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 08:46 AM
Oct 2013

He's a lot of things which are almost unprintable here, but somehow I don't see him saying THAT. Please let me add that I have posted here in the past that every time I see him, I am ashamed that he's a fellow Jew, and afraid of the eventual blowback from some because of that.

One thing you can say: we are certainly 'achievers': One Rethug Jewish Congressman and he's practically running the show over there.

All that being said, how frightening...?

 

TRoN33

(769 posts)
29. True then...
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 08:58 AM
Oct 2013

We all can wonder why Eric Cantor is no-show in public ever since that night during the meeting behind the closed doors and that was nearly a week and half ago.

PCIntern

(28,338 posts)
49. I take your point...
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:37 AM
Oct 2013

but the same was said for Biden recently...who knows what the hell's going on behind th scenes. And if he said it, who's he hiding from? these idjits are quite proud of their "You Lie" utterances at times...

Mass

(27,315 posts)
58. Because he was against this mess in the first place and does not want to be linked with it.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 10:04 AM
Oct 2013

(Cantor is a lot of things. Crazy is not one).

He and Boehner have been leading from behind.

The problem with Boehner and Cantor is not their far rightness (though they are). It is that they have no leadership skills and cant get their guys to do what they want.

carla

(553 posts)
65. I beg to differ.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 10:27 AM
Oct 2013

Cantor was given the authority, through a House rules change, to be the ONLY congresscritter who could bring up for vote the CR and the debt ceiling vote. Cantor is smug enough to say such an absurd thing, and that you believe he is a stand up guy is just appallling.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
67. He is not a standup guy (if he was, he would have opposed the shutdown against his caucus)
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 10:34 AM
Oct 2013

He is an ambitious guy that want to keep his place in the caucus and even climb higher. I have no illusion.

But that does not change the fact that the leadership did not propose the shutdown. They offered a CR + a bill to repeal Obamacare separately. They could not impose that on their caucus.

That does not change anything that happened after, but it is a sign of the weakness of the leadership.


But you can be sure the reason he is nowhere to be seen is that he does not want to be asked questions about this strategy, not that he is ashamed about a quote that is unattributed and undated.

BTW: nobody in the caucus is a standup guy. They lack the basic courage to resist the Tea Party even when they know it was wrong.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
121. With all the ugliness (teabagger posters, racist jokes and comments about Obama) by the
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:02 PM
Oct 2013

GOP, it is easy to believe that one of those "leaders" would make that statement. Boehner is my suspect. Cantor looks and acts like a slimy character, so he would not surprise me either. I don't think Durbin is lying about it having been said by one of the GOP leaders.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
26. Name the name or don't make the claim
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 08:48 AM
Oct 2013

Reminds me of the reports of drinking seen among Republican caucus in the Capital building, but, apparently unable to trust her lying eyes, the reporter couldn't figure out who the smell of alcohol was coming from so she didn't name names.

This isn't courage, this is baiting the base...

If Durban witnessed it during a meeting, others did too. Naming names associated with a true event would withstand claims of sleezy slander. Without the names it's lame.



 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
30. Agree stongly with what you say. Durbin as a DOMA Yes voter and seeker of Social Security
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 08:58 AM
Oct 2013

cuts is virtually a Republican himself and I don't trust his rhetoric, which in the past has been about how gays must never have equality, ya know?

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
39. Yes, it is. I'd welcome the unknown GOP leader getting the public spanking
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:12 AM
Oct 2013

that would be deserved.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
53. Durbin is acting to protect the Republican twit and also extending the audience for the twit's
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:42 AM
Oct 2013

remarks without risking harm to the Republican bigot. He wants to repeat the filth without accountability for the Republican. His silence is a sort of agreement.

City Lights

(25,787 posts)
27. Someone is stuck in "terrible twos" mode.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 08:55 AM
Oct 2013

The only thing worse than these douchebags are the brain-dead people who vote to send them to Washington.

Fuck the GOPee and those who support them.

LonePirate

(14,366 posts)
31. My guess is Jeb Hensarling from TX, chairman of the House Financial Services Committee
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:00 AM
Oct 2013

Hensarling is a Teabagger asshole from Texas and that combination is enough to empower him to say such a thing.

Issa would be my second choice.

Cantor is smarmy but he is too much of a cowardly, creepy, smooth operator to be so vocal and in-your-face.

ashling

(25,771 posts)
102. House Republican "Leadership"
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 05:31 PM
Oct 2013

Majority Leader
Rep. Eric Cantor

Represents Republicans on the House floor.
Rep. McCarthy
Majority Whip
Rep. Kevin McCarthy

Assists leadership in managing party's legislative program.
Rep. McMorris Rodgers
Republican Conference Chairman
Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers

Heads organization of all Republican Party members in the House.
Rep. Lankford
Republican Policy Committee Chairman
Rep. James Lankford

Heads Conference forum for policy development.

lostincalifornia

(5,331 posts)
33. This should be on the headlines of every newspaper and Newscast. These thugs need to be exposed
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:05 AM
Oct 2013

Why weren't names mentioned?

Why hide it, you cannot deal with these hate filled idiots anyway

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
41. I agree. The voters involved need to know the real representative they elected.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:17 AM
Oct 2013

The voters involved need to know the real representative they elected.

Moreover, the American people, as a whole, deserve to know from where the angst that prevents honest cooperation is spewed.

DFW

(60,144 posts)
38. For Republicans, that is an improvement!
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:12 AM
Oct 2013

When President Dick Cheney was acting Vice-President, he told Democratic Sen. Leahy of Vermont ON THE SENATE FLOOR to "go fuck yourself."

I wonder if these Republicans will ever figure out what's staring back at them when they look in the mirror. So far, I think they have no clue.

bonniebgood

(958 posts)
47. Worst things have been said to and about the President. Dems know it and no one that knows
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:30 AM
Oct 2013

ever speak out or name names. SILENCE IS CONSENT to All who know. Same with ALEC. Dems have always
known about ALEC since the 70's. Some of them (Big NAMe so called leaders of today) were on the board of ALEC.
If i were to call the names I would get kicked of DU.

Southside

(338 posts)
52. Reading that made me very angry, hate thrown in Obama's face
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:40 AM
Oct 2013

Last edited Wed Oct 23, 2013, 10:15 AM - Edit history (1)

I very rarely get upset. It is one thing for a computer tough guy on the Internet to say it, but to directly slap President Obama in the face with hate like that is disgusting. Without any context it makes it worse. I can envision the attacker could be a number of leaders and therefore I paint them all with the same brush except for Boehner.

What a thing to wake up to read in the morning. I pray for the President's safety. I pray to never learn who verbally assaulted him, I wish to avoid despising that person. President Obama is a symbol of so much good in our country. He represents a dream fulfilled for so many people. I take this personally.

Politics aside, in some ways Obama is like the Tiawanese basketball player Jeremy Lin, but on a grander scale. When they "can't stand to see his face" I take it personally.


Thank you for the post.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
56. If Durbin wants to make claims like that, he should name names.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:59 AM
Oct 2013

Just saying that does not help.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
61. I read recently that Boehner hates Obama. It was at the beginning
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 10:12 AM
Oct 2013

of the negotiating and shortly BEFORE the shutdown. After all, who was keeping Boehner from the bar? Who was responsible for many of the Republicans starting the talk about ousting Boehner? Who was following Cruz and his wild accusations? Republican House members, particularly the newbies, so Boehner was losing control.

The article said, one GOP House Leader told the president, so Boehner would fit, as well as Cantor. My vote is for Boehner under the influence...at least half-assed under.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
66. That's the effect of their own propaganda on their brains.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 10:32 AM
Oct 2013

Unable to think objectively or, for that matter, coherently. I hope Obama is as sick of it as I am. But I know he has a lot of class so I think he could deal with it better than I. I'd be fighting the urge to punch the jerk in the nose.

Stainless

(719 posts)
68. Absolutely Disgusting and Cowardly
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 10:44 AM
Oct 2013

That Durbin would make such an inflammatory comment and not name the SOB who said it.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
119. It matters that we know which one said it. It's totally believable, given all the ugliness
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 08:37 PM
Oct 2013

we've seen in teabagger signs, racist remarks and jokes by the republicans.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
70. Remember the "YOU LIE" outburst during SOU Address? That level of disrespect is mind-blowing.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 10:44 AM
Oct 2013

LuckyLib

(7,052 posts)
103. Yes. It's behavior that is hard to imagine happening from a Congressperson to a white President.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 06:01 PM
Oct 2013

Jaws would drop. This is racist, fundamentally disrespectful behavior that reeks of hate. I would expect someone else in the room to call out the offender . . . but crass behavior being what it is these days, maybe not.

 

alato

(43 posts)
71. why doesn't durbin stop being such a chicken shit
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 10:45 AM
Oct 2013

and let us ALL know who the moron was that said this.

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
74. Is there any reason to believe this actually happened?
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 11:37 AM
Oct 2013

I mean, other than, "Us good, them bad."

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
122. Look at the history of all the teabagger racist remarks and hatred they throw at Obama.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:04 PM
Oct 2013

Yes, it is easy for me to believe.

Historic NY

(40,003 posts)
77. perhaps it has something to do with this episode.....
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 11:47 AM
Oct 2013
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/14/what-happened-between-cantor-and-obama/?_r=0


July 2011

Like most important dramas in Washington, the brief but tense back-and-forth between Mr. Cantor and Mr. Obama took place behind closed doors. But in typical Washington fashion, the participants quickly began sketching out a script as soon as it was over.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
81. Name please, Sen Durbin!
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 01:15 PM
Oct 2013

You cannot say something like this without calling the perp out. If you don't name him/hera, you are doing nothing but enabling the person, who gets to be quoted without responsibility or accountability.

Yes, I believe someone did say this. Who, Senator Durbin? Who?

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
83. I am sure there are often very strong statements made between these people...
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 01:45 PM
Oct 2013

face to face. My guess is that all kinds of curses, grotesque language and ugliness goes on behind the scenes. It has never been like *The American President*, *The Contender*or any number of political films where there is a semblance of civility even when the media cameras aren't clicking away.

These legislators today don't even bother to pretend that they are civil or have an iota of class OR restraint. They have lost any sense of decency or accountability and what passes for excuses for *assshat* behavior is lame and disingenuous.The *Ugly American* thrives in the Halls of Congress. Respect? Not with this bunch of jerks.

Frankly, the entire nation has become boorish, undignified, and mean-assed. And I doubt much can be done about the downslide...no one is held accountable for their lack of decency or grace, even though we know it has always been lurking.

However, as far as our specific President is concerned, the ugliness goes further and is insidious. It is racist and bigoted and quite nauseating. Though the President may be used to a lifetime of such ignorance and graceless BS, there are still a lot of people who would like to know just what comes out of the real mouths of these *elected* public servants.The ONLY recourse is to name names and hold that person up to public scrutiny. We still have that (somewhat shaky) power.

Senator Durbin...name names if you are going to mention it at all so we can at least hold some of this shitty behavior in a stronger public light.

It really pisses me the hell off, damnit! (small, ironic grin)

burning rain

(4,393 posts)
93. It's certainly credible.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 04:18 PM
Oct 2013

I know a good number of ordinary Republicans who say such things and worse, and this isn't Georgia, but Pennsylvania.

1KansasDem

(251 posts)
95. White House and speakers office say it didn't happen.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 04:41 PM
Oct 2013

If Durbin makes the claim, he better name the name.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
99. i've heard people say they can't
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 05:24 PM
Oct 2013

stand to even look at our president. but to say it to his face in a meeting? impetuous, childish, and disrespectful. period.

DallasNE

(8,002 posts)
105. Durbin Needs To Name Names
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 06:33 PM
Oct 2013

On policy matters and such I am fine with what goes on in the room staying in the room but comments like this should not be viewed as privileged so the person saying this ought to be outed. If this is the meeting I thinking of it would have to have been either John Boehner or Eric Cantor and of those two I would suspect John Boehner because it fits in with past comments from John "KKK" Boehner.

dakdirty

(90 posts)
106. This proves something to me...
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 06:37 PM
Oct 2013

These GOP scum talk about how they have objections based on policy, but in reality, they simply can't stand having to deal with someone who to them is the ultimate combination of things they hate: an intellectual, Democrat, and black man.

DonCoquixote

(13,956 posts)
107. how much you want to bet two things
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 06:42 PM
Oct 2013

One: when Obama leaves office, there will be a bunch of Good ole boys talking about how good it is to have a White person out of office>

Two: that some democrats will be joining them in the celebration.

kentuck

(115,393 posts)
108. Marcia Blackburn seems like a good candidate?
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 06:45 PM
Oct 2013

It sounds like something she would say?

RVN VET

(492 posts)
114. The problem is, without a name, every Gopper is a suspect
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 07:41 PM
Oct 2013

which is kind of ok, I guess.

But I'd rather be able to target my anger at the right person. It would be especially nice to track the slovenly pos down at town hall meetings and quote him or her verbatim every time he or she opened his or her piehole. Or even play adult and just ask in a loud, incredulous voice:"Did you actually say that to the President of the United States? Is your idea of political discourse to name-call and insult? Can I do the same to you? here and now?"

So, c'mon Senator Durbin, name names! If you can't spill the beans, can you at least leak them? (That didn't come out right.)

ReRe

(12,189 posts)
109. That goes both ways....
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 06:52 PM
Oct 2013

... I can't stand to look at them either. And whenever MSNBC, or Thom Hartmann, or any station brings them on to talk, I change the channel. If I wanted to see their faces, I'd just just go watch Foxed-up-news.

BobbyBoring

(1,965 posts)
113. I'm so sick of hearing Obama won't play nice with the re thugs
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 07:34 PM
Oct 2013

He spent the first 2 years of his first term dicking around trying to appease them to no avail. If Obama wanted to give every billionaire a gold plated Rolls, they'd find fault with that~

 

Corruption Inc

(1,568 posts)
116. Sadly, I feel the exact same way about every Repug I meet
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 08:00 PM
Oct 2013

They are disgusting criminals or mentally ill people in desperate need of help. Then, having to listen to them bark out propaganda cliches hurts my ears too.

Response to cali (Original post)

Sedona

(3,872 posts)
126. Some people are moved to rage just at the mention of him
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:35 PM
Oct 2013

One day a few months after the 2012 election one of my co-workers started singing in our mom & pop biz office. This is not unusual (for him) as he regularly serenades us and we for the most part enjoy it.

What was different this day is he was singing Al Green's You Make Me Feel Brand New. He was singing it within earshot of me and the boss' wife. I made the mistake of making the comment, and I quote, "Awww that's the song the president sang to Michelle."

This lit a fuse under Mrs. Boss and she went off like a bomb on a 15 minute rant what an awful socialist Kenyan Muslim he is and how she never wants his name uttered in this office again. (I didn't utter his name BTW). She ended the rant by stating while looking right at me that "SOME PEOPLE " have been fired for just having an Obama sticker on their car. True, I had an Obama sticker on my car from the convention until a week or so after the election.

Then she stormed off into her mostly unused (she's kind of a figurehead "co-owner&quot office and slammed the door.

Me and my singing (liberal) co-worker just stood there with our jaws dropped. This from for the most part a sweet, 70ish, 4 foot 5 inch petit, adorable lady who would give me the shirt off her back, held my hand thru my divorce from my husband of 30 years and counseled me thru my oldest daughters wedding a not long after that.



I spent the rest of the day fighting back tears waiting to be fired from my very good job.

When I showed up for work the next day the real boss came in and basically apologized for her and asked me not to make any "political comments" in the office. He seemed quite embarrassed by it all. He hasn't raised his voice or got any kind of angry in the almost four years I've been working for him. I think he was afraid I was going to quit. I stuck up for myself and made sure he was aware my comment was of a trivial musical nature and he agreed. He said Obama just really rubbed her the wrong way (ya think?).

During the government shut down drama a few weeks ago I was similarly attacked by Mrs. Boss for no good reason again . She was standing 6 feet behind me in a busy, chatty office trying to get my attention, I was using the noisy scanner and didn't hear her say my name.

She stormed around to the front of my desk and ordered me to her "office" like I was a five year old being sent to my room and went on another 10 minute rant about how I don't respect her and how DARE I ignore her. How I've not been as warm to her as I used to be and demanded to know why. Well I kept my thoughts about that to myself because I need the job and she is in the office less than an hour a week.

This time I didn't even get a second hand apology. He was mortified, it was written all over his face.

I'll never feel the same way about her again. Fake it till you make it. I won't regret giving my notice next spring when I move out of the God forsaken red fucking state.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
132. Has Debbie Wasserman demanded an apology from this Republican
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 11:17 PM
Oct 2013

yet? Has she expressed her disappointment in him/her?

She seems awfully upset when Dems tell the truth about the TP morons who shut down the government, so I imagine her anger towards a disrespectful Republican like this must be intense.

Maybe I just missed here 'admonishment' ....

Grateful for Hope

(39,320 posts)
134. I can't even imagine having something like this aimed at me
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 12:45 AM
Oct 2013

Our President has nerves of steel

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