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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsShithead of the Year:Men’s rights activist explains why it’s OK to not care about female rape victim
Paul Elam, founder of the website A Voice For Men, complained that feminists had conspired to underreport incidences of male rape and promote the victimhood of female rape victims.
I dont find it particularly hyperbolic for a man to say, Im not gonna give a damn about female rape victims anymore, Elam said in a video posted Sunday on YouTube. They have tons of money, of law enforcement, of special programs funded by the government, of social consciousness schools have Take Back The Night rallies, everything you can possibly think of.
Elam was responding to a profile published Sunday by The Daily Beast about John The Other Hembling, who was quoted as saying in a video that he didnt give a f*** about rape victims anymore.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/23/mens-rights-activist-explains-why-its-ok-to-not-care-about-female-rape-victims/
This is absolutely outrageous. These two "men" need STFU. I'm all for free speech, but this kind of misogynistic bullshit adds nothing to any discussion. Hell, for these two I'd support the return of public flogging.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)but this guy makes me think about it. I bet his tune would change pretty fast if it happened to him.
I would be willing to bet there is a woman somewhere that has had an incident with this turd.
bluesbassman
(20,384 posts)To make such a callous statement indicates issues much deeper than his feelings of being "harmed" politically and socially by feminism. I doubt these two had much credibility to begin with, but they're below zero now IMO.
Glorfindel
(10,175 posts)How would they feel if their mother, daughter, sister, aunt, niece, or cousin was raped?
Demeter
(85,373 posts)That lack of empathy shows up in everything I've ever seen from these people, no matter who it is.
They are so self-absorbed in THEIR rights, nobody else deserves any consideration.
Hope they like talking to themselves.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Those two knuckledraggers best head back into their sad little man caves, before karma comes a'knockin.
Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)Vice co-founder Gavin McInnes explodes at woman who claims she can be childless and happy
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/23/vice-co-founder-gavin-mcinnes-explodes-at-woman-who-claims-she-can-be-childless-and-happy/
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Series-ly, other than it's clear he's an asshole, I've never heard of him or Vice before.
PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)From what I've read from them, the opinion of this guy doesn't seem entirely reflective of the paper.
It also used to be a pop culture magazine before they shifted to more serious news.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)And their turn toward serious journalism has been mostly since Shane Smith took over.
never heard of this idiot.
City Lights
(25,830 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)King of the asshat idiots.
Dash87
(3,220 posts)The funny part is, he puts these videos up, but everyone has to agree with him.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)that these extreme assholes don't speak for all men.
bluesbassman
(20,384 posts)I am not involved in the "men's rights" movement in any way, but I can at least grant that there may be some issues they pursue that are worthy of discussion. However, statements like the one this jerk made are beyond the pale and should be denounced by all men as the misogynistic and hurtful garbage that it is.
So yeah, they don't speak for all men, but hopefully the ones who listen to them are repulsed by this and look to other sources.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)I can't think of these assholes as men. Firmly in the subhuman category as far as I'm concerned.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)who or what would like to claim them.
riqster
(13,986 posts)A chromosomal similarity doesn't make them so. They're an evolutionary throwback, and clearly haven't yet been thrown back far enough.
Squinch
(59,522 posts)Skittles
(171,710 posts)skeered little shits, yes?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Triana
(22,666 posts)not to care about them. Unless you lack empathy for women to begin with - in which case the problem is with you, not female rape victims.
bullwinkle428
(20,662 posts)"Hembling defended himself in another lengthy video posted Tuesday on A Voice For Men, saying he was intentionally playing up his super-villain tendencies as an attempt at humor."
translation : "SEE? I WAS JUST MAKING A JOKE!! WHY CAN'T EVERYONE LIGHTEN UP??"
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Rape culture is dangerous and detrimental to men as well. Fighting it means fighting it when men are assaulted as well.
Though I figure they're actually more interested in hating women than actually fixing the problems.
BainsBane
(57,757 posts)I don't believe for a minute they are concerned about male rape victims. As you note, the MRAsma's primary impulse is hatred of women, nothing more.
ismnotwasm
(42,674 posts)They started out a number of years back as help for custody cases-- my husband, who ended up with custody of his two daughters, received legal aid from one of those early groups. I remember walking in the office with wife and the paralegal saying "what did the c*** do now?"
Given the beginnings it's not surprising they evolved into hate groups.
PeteSelman
(1,508 posts)But you don't usually trumpet your indifference, particularly on such sensitive subjects.
These guys are obviously complete and utter assholes.
tblue
(16,350 posts)Wonder if that's his real name.
yuiyoshida
(45,413 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)I'm honestly sickened.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)Y'know, when a man clubbed a prospective mate and dragged her by her hair back to his cave?
Mr. Elam may still be living in a cave. Does anybody have his address?
rivegauche
(601 posts)Oh will the drama never end?
dakdirty
(90 posts)And brother to 3 sisters, I can only be completely disgusted. I find it ironic and ultimately very odd that the "men's rights" movement seems to be spearheaded by members of the most privileged group in all of history, white men. Insanity.