Repubs Want An APOLOGY, WH DENIES Durbin's Story

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Earlier a diary here updated the now infamous remark Sen. Durbin claims he heard.
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Now Boehner and Cantor want an apology from Durbin for this remark

Durbin wrote in a Facebook post on Sunday that a House GOP leader said "I cannot even stand to look at you" to President Obama during a negotiations over the federal government shutdown

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This seems like such an odd way for this story to be playing out.

Why did it take so long for the WH to say it didn't happen?

Why (according to Kat68's diary) did Press Secretary Carney go from saying "somebody" denied to "participants" denying it?

Why did it take so long for the republicans to say it didnt happen and want an apology?


Did Durbin make a false statement or did he misunderstand what someone said?


How do you misunderstand that kind of statement?

Durbin wrote in a Facebook post on Sunday that a House GOP leader said "I cannot even stand to look at you" to President Obama during a negotiations over the federal government shutdown

I just don't think Durbin lied. But I do think he is going to be made to eat dirt for all this.




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[joeybee12]

1. Easy way to settle this...Durbin should say who it was...

And let that person and the others deny that.

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2. Exactly! WH cannot expect a sitting Senate Majority Whip to take a fall for reTHUGS.

[joeybee12]

9. It's much harder to deny when there's a specific person involved...

as opposed to a nameless "someone."

[bluestate10]

22. That is the thing that has me scratching my FUCKING HEAD!!! The White House is hanging a good

solid soldier out to dry after that soldier made public inappropriate behavior toward the President. There is NO fucking high road to be taken here, call the god-damned republican leader who made the statement out. Back Durbin, he wouldn't randomly make something this serious up out of thin air.

[Mass]

8. Agree.

[Bluenorthwest]

16. I was strongly attacked for saying that in another thread.

The poster got personal too.

[joeybee12]

17. I don't see how you can argue against him not revealing the name...

Especially now that the Repukes are demanding an apology...set the record straight...and let the individual he names deny it on camera.

[Control-Z]

3. I think it might be something

about not advertising the abhorrent disrespect this president is shown by these assclowns. It pisses me off so much when I hear such things - and it makes me sad for President Obama.

[Bucky]

5. There is no reason to feel sad for Barack Obama

Seriously.

[Egnever]

12. True that

he could have gone his whole life with his only accomplishment being that he married Michelle, and he would still be a very lucky man!

[Blue_Roses]

27. what a beauty...

Inside and out!

[Bucky]

4. Maybe he just saw a Republican looking at a copy of the Constitution.

or a copy of a math textbook

[Mass]

6. The first problem is that Durbin was most likely not in the room, so he had to rely on somebody

else telling the story. (After the shutdown, there were no meetings including Obama, Durbin and the GOP house leaders).

The other one is that the White House was never going to acknowledge the lack of respect of somebody in the Oval Office or the White House. It is one thing to have a goon say something racist in a meeting. Acknowledging that a GOP leader was disrespectful is another. It ruins the prestige of the president.

The other problem is that I remember other instance where Durbin said things like that. He is never direct and we can never know whether it is something that happened or an image for the general disrespect.

So, yes, because Durbin embarrassed the White House, he probably will have to eat dirt (hopefully, he will not have to apologize to the GOP).

[bluestate10]

23. There was a joint meeting right before the shutdown that involved all republican leadership

and all republican leadership. The statement could have been made then. The President must get the White House to change course, if he doesn't I am perfectly ok with Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi stepping forward to correct the record. I don't think Durbin would just make shit up, especially something of the magnitude that Durbin mentioned, Durbin DESERVES FULL SUPPORT from the President.

[sufrommich]

7. This is such a weird story. I don't know what

to believe.

[bluestate10]

24. I seriously doubt Durbin would make something like this up. I can believe that republicans

would lie. What I don't understand is why the White House is backing republicans and embarrassing Durbin.

[DURHAM D]

10. This is confusing.

I heard that the WH said the President didn't hear the remark. That is very different from the WH saying it didn't happen. Poor reporting.

[Iggo]

11. No.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

13. If a repug will shout "You lie!" during a presidential address, this sounds just as plausible.

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15. Well then, Durbin should support the 'truth' and release

the names of those who made this remark. Lets put this story to rest once and for all.

[bigwillq]

14. Hey, Durbin, say who it was or shut up (nt)

[AlinPA]

18. No doubt in my mind one of the republicans said it. IMO, the President is just trying to bring

down the heat on this subject that could turn into a real firestorm on TV news. This could help with his future "negotiations" with them by cooling down the partisan bitterness..

[bluestate10]

25. I completely disagree with you. Protecting republicans will gain the President NOTHING.

Republicans will just take an act of grace as a sign of weakness.

[sabrina 1]

31. No, it will not bring down any heat by covering for them. Have

people still not learned that no matter how much Dems back down for them, which Dems have doing for years now, it makes NO DIFFERENCE, they will lie and cheat and refuse to acknowledge the concessions made.

The ONLY thing bullies understand is CONFRONTATION.

The WH should have said nothing. Let them rail and whine.

It would NOT make the President look bad if this turned out to be true.

What kind of thinking is that?

It would make THEM look bad. Even moderate Conservatives will agree that the Office of the President should be respected.

I have no idea if it is true or not, but I don't understand why Durbin would make up something like that. So for now, I'm going with it being true.

There were probably others there also. The President may not have HEARD it, and that's all the WH should say.

[kiranon]

19. Durbin should apologize publicly to the Republican who said it. After all,

Republicans want an apology and Democrats want to know who said it. If Republicans were smart they would drop talk of an apology since to get one may uncloak who said it. IMHO.

[jazzimov]

20. I want an apology for the Government Shutdown!

Maybe Durbin got the "exacts" wrong, but he definitely got the mood right, as has been expressed by the Republican Party and especially the Tea Party on numerous occasions.

Let's not forget what is REALLY important here - the Repuke are the ones that shut down the government!

[bluestate10]

26. I doubt that Durbin would get what was said wrong. nt

[Blue_Roses]

28. exactly!

Well said!

[bluestate10]

21. I don't understand why the White House is hanging Durbin out to dry while protecting republican

clowns from their excesses. Seems ass backward to me. Durbin should name names and recount exactly when the statement was made.

[Doctor_J]

29. why don't you understand?

The white house always sides with the republicans.

[Generic Brad]

30. Seems those whiners always are trolling for apologies

The Tea Partiers I have to deal with in my personal life act the same way. They say the most abhorrent and disrespectful things in private, but once they get called out publicly they deny such a thing ever happened and they start demanding apologies.

Durbin should not apologize under any circumstances. Letting them off the hook only emboldens them to keep getting more extreme in private. Our president does not deserve this level of disrespect.

[Deep13]

32. An apology? Well, okay, here it goes...

I'm very sorry that you are all a bunch of thin-skinned, whining babies.

Oh and, go fuck yourselves.

[pnwmom]

33. If it never happened, how would they know which participants to ask? nt

[hrmjustin]

34. If Durbin was not willing to say who said it he probably should not have repeated it.

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I tend to think Durbin is an honest man, but I am not sure what to believe.

[calimary]

35. FUCK 'em.

I'm sorry. I'm sick of these assholes. Don't care. Not a bit interested in anything they want. Not listening. Besides, I know plenty-enough about what they do want to turn myself into a one-woman Party of No. Just FUCK 'em.