Obamacare's Website Is Crashing Because It Doesn't Want You To Know How Costly Its Plans Are

[dkf]

A growing consensus of IT experts, outside and inside the government, have figured out a principal reason why the website for Obamacare’s federally-sponsored insurance exchange is crashing. Healthcare.gov forces you to create an account and enter detailed personal information before you can start shopping. This, in turn, creates a massive traffic bottleneck, as the government verifies your information and decides whether or not you’re eligible for subsidies. HHS bureaucrats knew this would make the website run more slowly. But they were more afraid that letting people see the underlying cost of Obamacare’s insurance plans would scare people away.

HHS didn’t want users to see Obamacare’s true costs

“Healthcare.gov was initially going to include an option to browse before registering,” report Christopher Weaver and Louise Radnofsky in the Wall Street Journal. “But that tool was delayed, people familiar with the situation said.” Why was it delayed? “An HHS spokeswoman said the agency wanted to ensure that users were aware of their eligibility for subsidies that could help pay for coverage, before they started seeing the prices of policies.” (Emphasis added.)

As you know if you’ve been following this space, Obamacare’s bevy of mandates, regulations, taxes, and fees drives up the cost of the insurance plans that are offered under the law’s public exchanges. A Manhattan Institute analysis I helped conduct found that, on average, the cheapest plan offered in a given state, under Obamacare, will be 99 percent more expensive for men, and 62 percent more expensive for women, than the cheapest plan offered under the old system. And those disparities are even wider for healthy people.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/10/14/obamacares-website-is-crashing-because-it-doesnt-want-you-to-know-health-plans-true-costs/

Many of the problems appeared to stem from a last-minute change in the site’s operation, one that required site visitors to sign up before they could window shop policies.

That extra step created a bottleneck, according to Andrew Slavitt, group executive vice president at Optum/QSSI, a business unit of healthcare giant UnitedHealth Group that handled that aspect of the system as a subcontractor to CGI.

Slavitt said the move was made within 10 days of the rollout, and his group suggested more testing would be needed.

“We don’t know why the decision was made,” Slavitt said.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-obamacare-website-house-hearing-20131024,0,1848356.story#axzz2ikZSCq4o

Contractors describe scant pre-launch testing of U.S. healthcare site
Reuters By David Morgan and Susan Cornwell

At a U.S. House of Representatives oversight committee hearing, contractors also blamed the administration for a last-minute design change that has been identified as a flaw responsible for leading millions of visitors into system bottlenecks.

Julie Bataille, a spokeswoman for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), the agency implementing the online marketplace, acknowledged the contractors' testimony.

"Due to a compressed time frame the system wasn't tested enough," Bataille said. "What's important to realize is that we are putting in place a much more robust performance testing system now."

Andrew Slavitt, Executive Vice President for Optum/QSSI is sworn-in to testify at a House Energy and …
She also told reporters that in-house "business decisions" prompted CMS to require online visitors to create accounts before shopping for health plans and prompted the agency to assume the key role of system integrator for Healthcare.gov.

http://news.yahoo.com/more-democrats-voice-obamacare-concerns-website-blame-goes-002149096--sector.html

[BumRushDaShow]

1. Shark meet Fonzie's water skis.

[CatWoman]

2. .......

[tallahasseedem]

18. I was wondering what it would take...

[CreekDog]

29. par for the course...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021562758

dkf (37,297 posts)

So is it the Administration's stance that they thought Benghazi was a terrorist attack from day 2?
Well I hope the record stands up to scrutiny.

http://election.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x913697

dkf

The birther thing is funny, but I wish Obama would release the original certificate and be done with it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1524754

dkf (37,297 posts)

Biden contradicts State Department on Benghazi security

[uponit7771]

59. Thx, didn't know this...

[Sheepshank]

77. a prolific poster

with an average of 30 posts a day, every day for 90 days......one may have assumed an agenda.

[tenderfoot]

92. Can you imagine spending THAT MUCH TIME trolling?

If anything - it makes me feel better about how I spend my time.

Paid trolls are so worthless.

[tblue37]

129. If it was her job, then that amount of time would be unremarkable.

She has always taken the RW position on every topic, and I've always thought she was, ah, not one of us, but somehow she managed to avoid crossing that subtle line--though I thought some of her posts were pretty obviious.

[tenderfoot]

130. She/He was so obvious - Helen Keller noticed.

Despite being dead for the past 40+ years.

[noiretextatique]

104. and a zimmerman apologist to boot

[CreekDog]

106. yup and she posted that she didn't think Lara Logan was raped in Egypt, wanted more details

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x435572

[noiretextatique]

107. and she always seemed to have an excuse

for posting disgusting crap. glad she got axed.

[nomorenomore08]

126. She also said something like "If Republicans are so racist why do they like Ted Cruz?"

Which wasn't even alertable, let alone bannable, just WTF and worthy.

[Cha]

133. I got an answer.. because tedbagger is as fucking racist as they are. nm

[nomorenomore08]

141. He's also very white. Race and ethnicity are two different things.

[freshwest]

144. That's awful. You don't get much more GOP than that disgusting stuff!

Thanks for providing proof.

[Cha]

132. Brawawaaaaa

We can laugh Now!

[spanone]

3. right-wing spin.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

138. "righty speak"

[Rosa Luxemburg]

138. "righty speak"

[The Magistrate]

4. You Are Slipping The Mask Pretty Badly Here, Ma'am

Wading through the deliberate distortion in the reporting yields the fact that the site was structured to see to it that people were fully informed regarding what they would actually pay themselves for coverage, rather than be given a 'list price' figure that, in almost all instances, would be far higher than their actual out of pocket costs would be.

Only in the world of right-wing media talking points would being sure that people knew what they would actually pay be described as hiding the cost of an item people were seeking to purchase.

[CreekDog]

31. She also has headed for the hills after posting this

just like she did after posting Romney's Benghazi talking points before the election last year (returning over a month later, saying she preferred it there because it was faster and stuff).

[CreekDog]

49. she has been put out of our misery sir

[BumRushDaShow]

75. Holy cow, you're right!

After 37,0000 posts too.

Good riddance!

[Ikonoklast]

89. I'd be willing to bet a sleeper account will now be activated.

Look at some the posters that have been recc'ing the crapola posts of the dearly departed as of late.

All of them low-count anti-Obama, anti-Democrat, anti-ACA poster just overflowing with concern over how Obamacare is going to put working people in the poor house.

All that even when almost every account posted by actual people's experience with quotes for coverage under the exchanges states the opposite.

[Cha]

135. good to note..

[NoOneMan]

5. My take was this was also due to PR reasons

If a ton of people signed up for accounts (but few enrolled), it makes it look like there is more interest in the exchange. Curious window shoppers get counted now

[Pab Sungenis]

90. Welcome back!

I was wondering how long you were going to be gone this time.

[NoOneMan]

99. I left?

I've been posting a bit last few weeks due to some more free time and colder weather.

[Pab Sungenis]

119. .

[NoOneMan]

123. Yes, I am EarlG's alter ego sock-puppet.

If not, whose mind you? Is that a violation of the TOS to accuse a poster of being a sock-puppet?


And how can my divine writing style and abstract analytical genius be a mere shallow creation of a malevolent internet junkie with more time on their hands than sense in their brains?

[Capt. Obvious]

6. WRONG

It fails because Obama's real birth certificate can be found there.

[Scurrilous]

7. ...

[rbrnmw]

8. facepalm

Rt wingnut spin unrec

[winterpark]

9. didn't read the article, but is this a hit piece by forbes? Sounds like it n/t

[JoePhilly]

10. Browsing wasn't a "release defining feature".

When a SW project has a "hard deadline", certain features are labeled "release defining". These are the features that must exist for the system to perform its PRIMARY goals. These are the features that must exist when you "go live".

For this system, release defining features would be the ability to sign up, compare plans along with the relevant and actual subsidies, and then submit one's choice.

"Browsing" is not required to perform those tasks. Its a great feature to include, people will like it, and you'd like to have it, but with a "hard deadline", its not a required feature for making the "go live" decision.

Or ... if folks prefer, its really a big conspiracy so that no one will ever really know how much the plans will cost. Never ever.

Until they add the browse feature in a couple months or so.

[leftstreet]

11. The article's author has it exactly backassward

An initial rollout with a browsing feature could have been simpler, but the resulting high prices without subsidies would have been SHOCKING

[Pretzel_Warrior]

12. And my response is 80% of Americans don't know tire cost of their PRIVATE insurance

It seems kind of dumb to tell potential Obamacare users what they WON'T be paying. This writer for Forbes, Avik Roy, has been trashing every aspect of Obamacare they can dream up. It sounds like rather than being interested in presenting truth as you said yesterday, you are invested in providing negative spin about Obamacare.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

13. My Take...

This is the republican's...

It is up to all of us to...

[MADem]

14. Wow, lettin' the old right wing freak flag fly, there....

Without even a wee "Look at this lying horseshit" caveat...



Sure you meant to post this here? Did you get your websites confused, or something?

Since when are "IT experts" also experts on health care plans and costs? And I'm gonna sit up and listen to some assclown from Rupert Murdoch's WSJ, quoted in a FORBES article....

You really should consider deleting this shit. It's pure lies, wrapped in faux-authoritative bullshit.

[Cha]

136. Good advice on the "delete" but alas

fate had something else in mind!

[MADem]

137. Hurray for "fate!" Something needed deleting, and it all worked out in the end! nt

[bullwinkle428]

15. An "anonymus shopper" option was just included this morning, as reported by NPR,

for those who don't want to go through the registration process.

I'm a long way from a "bot" or a "cheerleader" by any stretch of the imagination, and while I think the web launch has been a complete clusterfuck, it at least appears that genuine and sincere efforts are being made to fix things, or move them in the proper direction at the very least.

[JoePhilly]

16. Clearly, Forbes forced Obama's hand!!!

The administration wasn't going to add this feature, but then this Forbes article came out and they had to add it.

[chillfactor]

17. what a boatload of BS!

you posted this on the wrong site.............

redstate, drudge...that-away------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->

[Lint Head]

19. Forbes? Really? That doesn't jive with what people are saying who have successfully signed up.

I worked with a federal contractor who was audited by CMS every quarter and often had to endure surprise audits. I know people at CMS and QSSI a software company involved with the ACA start up. CMS answers to Congress period. "Congressionals", or communications from Congressmen who wanting something changed or investigated happened all the time. They can "hide" nothing. Especially with a broken website. Which is laughable. Maybe people who don't understand technical computer code or how to use common computer devices would believe this. Congress knows what CMS is doing every minute. New systems, some even bigger than the new ACA (Believe it) software and interface were installed all the time. I was one of the people who tested them all myself until I retired not long ago. There were always problems with starting up. Glitches, error messages, letters sent to beneficiaries and Doctors explaining the issues and giving timelines of correction were common. Nothing is perfect and nothing is a imperfect as software touted by a proud programmer as the next big thing.

CMS sets arbitrary timelines all the time. I always thought their timelines for testing new mainframe and web based software interfaces was ridicules and too aggressive. But, they are serving Congressmen who are constantly breathing down their necks to quickly get things done. That always throws a wrench into the works.

Anyone with half a brain cell knows anything done well takes time. Playing any musical instrument, creating art and bringing new ideas to fruition takes time and practice.

If the lunatics running the asylum have their way, no one, millions will be without health care.

[geek tragedy]

21. The author was Mitt Romney's 2012 healthcare advisor.

Apparently shares an agenda with the OP.

[Cha]

142. mitt romney's healthcare advisor.. Oh NOES111! We must hear

from his bogus ass. But, apparently EarlG didn't think so.

[hedgehog]

115. Come to think of it, it took us six months to get our employer supplied coverage

straightened out last year because they rolled out a new "enterprise application" system!

[geek tragedy]

20. anti-Obama troll citing anti-ACA propaganda from Mitt Romney's health advisor

What could possibly be wrong with this?

[Skraxx]

22. I Think Your Agenda Could Not Be Made Any More Crystal Clear

Good show!

[gollygee]

23. This is such complete bullshit

Why are you posting obvious and deliberate misinformation as fact?

Oh wait, that's right.

[jpak]

24. Let's see...

My pre-Obamacare shit LePage/Teaparty health insurance policy with a $5000 deductible cost $573 a month - with no vision, dental or prescription drug benefit - and would only pay 80% after the deductible.

They denied me my flu vaccine at the drugstore this fall. They said I would have to make a doctor's appointment to get it paid under my policy.

My new Obamacare policy with a $5000 deductible, good doctor copays, vison & dental and prescription drug benefit & a $6000 CAP on out-of-pocket costs is now less than $500 a month - with the dental plan.

So tell me again why this is a bad thing.

yup

[WinkyDink]

25. The blame on Obama for insurance companies' rates-raise? LIKE THEY NEEDED AN EXCUSE???

[lostincalifornia]

26. no surprise coming from that worthless rag forbes. /nt

[cui bono]

27. Obamacare's Website Is Crashing Because It Wants You to Know the CORRECT Price of Healthcare

is what your headline should read. Because that's the real message of the article. They wanted people to get the price they would have to pay after subsidies. What the hell is wrong with that??? You want people to be given a price that's NOT what they have to pay? Why would anyone want that?

Why did you post that article?

[CreekDog]

30. same reason she kept posting that Obama needs to release his birth certificate

same reason.

we can all figure out what that reason is.

http://election.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x913697

dkf

The birther thing is funny, but I wish Obama would release the original certificate and be done with it.

[Capt. Obvious]

32. Ha!

This makes my post even more prescient

[geek tragedy]

33. Check out the two recommenders

One a MIRTed Paulbot, and the other who just happens to support every single anti-ACA talking point pushed here.

[BluegrassStateBlues]

51. I hope their days are numbered as well. nt

[cui bono]

128. One of them has no days left. After just one post.

And both recs are negative threads about Obamacare.

[tenderfoot]

131. Here's to hoping a certain confused/bewildered wanderer joins him/her

another obvious is obvious.

[Rex]

122. IMO, posted this in wrong window browser.

Probably meant to post it on FR.

[Arkana]

28. Seriously dude? This sounds like some Freep-type conspiracy shit.

[Scurrilous]

34. Repeat disruptor recc.

Sure sign of fail.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=309018

[hrmjustin]

35. MIR Team (EarlG) banned dkf

Automated Message
MIR Team (EarlG) banned dkf

Mail Message
Reason:
Enough is enough.

http://www.democraticunderground.com?com=profile&uid=127885&sub=trans

Real name:
DU Member for: 10 years, 3 months, 24 days
Posts: 37,305
Recommendations: 1,487
Star member: Yes

[geek tragedy]

36. we better believe it! nt

[hrmjustin]

39. They had enough.

[geek tragedy]

42. no joke. I mean, all that was missing from this one

was a press release from Americans for Prosperity.

[hrmjustin]

43. I thought when they got rid of Jody that this one would come soon as well.

The news just came through mirt and my jaw dropped.

[geek tragedy]

45. omg that one, he was a birther nt

[hrmjustin]

46. Well now they can enjoy the land of PPR.

[BainsBane]

56. Jody?

[hrmjustin]

60. Jody was a poster here form almost the beggining and was clearly right wing.

She and dkf posted in packs. SHe posted something that I can not remember but the admins said no more.

[BainsBane]

68. I never knew that one

[hrmjustin]

71. Loved to post how great guns were and how bad taxes are. Jody thought we needed to cut SS.

[LeftishBrit]

103. And occasionally came to the UK forum quoting our most right-wing tabloids and trying to get

ammunition for anti-immigrant talking points in particular.

[hrmjustin]

64. Here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=108116

[BluegrassStateBlues]

40. Hell yes.

I alerted on so many things by this poster in fits of rage after seeing RW talking points.

Unfortunately, every single post was left alone.

[FSogol]

41. Long overdue. Keep up the good work, EarlG. n/t

[gollygee]

44. I wondered if this would be the thread that finally did it

She was a little too obvious this time. She's usually pretty good at skating just along the edge.

[BainsBane]

58. Moles become more audacious over time

though that one was obvious for just about as long as I've been on DU3.

[gollygee]

62. She seemed obvious to me

Anti-union, pro-birther, pro-Zimmerman, anti-teacher, anti-Obama, and I'm sure I've missed some stuff.

But she usually did the concern troll thing. "I'm worried people are going to . . . "

[noiretextatique]

105. +1000 totally pro-zimmerman

[Cha]

143. that's it.. they get bolder and bolder and then..

boom.

[Scurrilous]

52. LOL

TSed w/ the same epitaph as BBI.

[hrmjustin]

54. I am sorry I don't know BBI.

[geek tragedy]

66. Very similar to dkf

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=217293&sub=trans

[hrmjustin]

67. Thanks. I was only here for a few months at that time so I don't remember the posted.

[geek tragedy]

69. Pretended to be a leftwing critic, but reached the "enough is enough"

threshold by citing The Weekly Standard to attack Obama after he came out in favor of legalizing same sex marriage.

[The Magistrate]

65. 'Bout Fucking Time, Sir

This one was so far past its sell-by date the can was bulging fit to burst.

[JustAnotherGen]

150. The Magistrate speaks!

When you drop an F Bomb - As polite, patient, and kind as you are - then it is really time to throw caution to the wind and post, "Good fucking riddance!".

[tenderfoot]

70. It is about FUCKING TIME!!!!

Unbelievable that everyone had to put up with that OBVIOUS!!!!!!!!!! TROLL!

GOOD FUCKING RIDDANCE!!!!!!!!!!

[Marrah_G]

97. It's about time

fucking troll

[Number23]

118. Holy Moly!!

[FSogol]

37. Unrec.

[Cali_Democrat]

38. Avik Roy wrote this article

I've seen him on the Bill Maher show. He's a big time Republican.

Why would you post his drivel here?

[ChisolmTrailDem]

48. Now you see the RWNJ troll, now you don't!

Account status: Posting privileges revoked
Member since: 2003 before July 6th
Number of posts: 37,305
Number of posts, last 90 days: 2597
Favorite forum: General Discussion, 2330 posts in the last 90 days (90% of total posts)
Favorite group: Economy, 12 posts in the last 90 days (0% of total posts)
Last post: Fri Oct 25, 2013, 01:11 PM

[unblock]

53. wow, i thought we'd never get rid of this one!

[Pab Sungenis]

91. Has anyone checked the Cave this morning

to see if she's bragging about how long she kept us all trolled?

[ScreamingMeemie]

50. I know you're gone now, but...

$176.19/month 1800K/deductible $25 copay.

Why wouldn't they want me to see that? Have a nice life!

[stevenleser]

55. This person played us for years. Nothing about them was genuine except the snarks on anything

Obama.

[tenderfoot]

74. She didn't fool anyone.

Except for her fan club.

[scheming daemons]

80. There are several others doing the same thing... but when we call them out, we get jury-hidden

Too many to count.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

88. Yep. Why must we put up with this RW crap? I can name quite a few who

are clearly playing that same long game. I've actually had a post hidden recently calling out one of these intruders. What is the process for getting rid of them?

[Number23]

121. You got that right. But the admins seem to be FINALLY as sick of the shit as the rest of us

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=167827&sub=trans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=112094&sub=trans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=260132&sub=trans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=303173&sub=trans

Housecleaning, though extremely late is still very much appreciated. There are still a host of dust trollies that need to be swept but quite a bit fewer than there used to be.

[ProSense]

93. "Will our government become just one big entitlement program and nothing else? "

If we keep Medicare, social security, Medicaid and interest payments as projected...

We can't do anything else. This means we only care for the elderly and the medical costs of the very poor and the rest of the safety net for younger workers is gone as is investment and the military.

Will our government become just one big entitlement program and nothing else? How does that lead to a future where young people can generate what is needed to take care of the elderly?

The numbers don't work.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022665887#post23

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022670514
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021541471

But hey, what about Canadian-style single payer?

[myrna minx]

57. Thank you EarlG.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

63. Somewhere a martyr is celebrated this day.... n/t

[Skidmore]

61. Oy! Any doubts I had are now confirmed.

[Warren Stupidity]

72. buh bye.

[kestrel91316]

73. No shock that it's YOU posting this RW claptrap.

I have done PLENTY of shopping on the CoveredCA portal at healthcare.gov, and I did it before I completed my application. Of course, I am in CA, where we do these things ourselves instead of being petulant asshats and leaving it for the feds to sub out to a RW saboteur like the RW states did.

But carry on. It's glaringly obvious what you are about.

I'm still waiting for you to express support of ANY liberal policies or politicians whatsoever..........

(crickets chirping)

[trumad]

76. Crickets will continue to chirp...she or he bye bye.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3919170

[tenderfoot]

78. Back to the Daily Caller for you...

Fucking Troll.

[saynotoplutocrats]

79. dkf is an internet troll

Nothing dkf has ever said is worth reading.

[backscatter712]

81. About fucking time!

[DiverDave]

82. Huh, I thought they only asked for name age addy?

no ss #'s or any other bits.
I guess 30 posts a day must get tiring...take a rest, you really need it.
Oh and all those post, how can you sign your chex from the koch's?

[trumad]

83. read above

[backscatter712]

84. Looks like dkf's taking an enforced rest... n/t

[Kingofalldems]

85. Final post got 2 recs. How nice.

[zappaman]

87. Recs can be undone.

Curious how many there were before the PPR...

[MADem]

140. There were two. I looked, because I was surprised that anyone would support this line of horseshit.

I was poster number fourteen in this thread, and I basically said "WTF?" with regard to this OP.

[ProSense]

86. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023907606

[geek tragedy]

94. Jury vote: 2-4 to keep this

At Fri Oct 25, 2013, 12:23 PM you sent an alert on the following post:

Obamacare's Website Is Crashing Because It Doesn't Want You To Know How Costly Its Plans Are
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023919170

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

YOUR COMMENTS:

This is debunked rightwing propaganda. Enough of this troll already.

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Fri Oct 25, 2013, 12:26 PM, and voted 2-4 to LEAVE IT ALONE.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Forbes' 'reporter' wrote it. It can be discussed on DU. It violates nothing.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: "Enough of this troll already." amen to that. Everything he posts, everything he comments on is right wing propaganda. He is a troll. WHY is he still here after all this time?
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Really? I think I'll leave this open so people can have fun.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT and said: Trolling, trolling, trolling. Admins need to know about this.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: So?

[SamYeager]

96. Some times the jury system works

It did not work this time.

[steve2470]

101. Those jury results are PROOF that DU is RW infested, if mainly by sleeper trolls

Adios "Ms." RW troll

[cui bono]

127. Hm... maybe that's why I never got results from my alert this morning.

Why not hide the thread though, since the poster has posting privileges revoked?

Is that different than TS?

[Pretzel_Warrior]

95. Thanks for this OP you stupid troll

[Hekate]

98. Impressive, as usual. Let me wish you adieu....

... at last.

Though I'm pretty sure you'll be back soon.

[msanthrope]

100. I just want to post on this thread so I can find it, later...nt

[DevonRex]

152. I knew you would.

I always find you and reply to you when you mark the thread. It's a habit now. A tradition.

[Rex]

102. So this is the one that finally did it!

Kinda started going off the deep end with the trust fund scare imo. I have to agree with the PPR, this OP itself looks like something you would see on a RWing site.

BBI?

[Ichingcarpenter]

113. Gee this is why I never commented on her posts

cause the titles just made me ignore it.

Well, I guess the pizza was deserved and rightly so.

[Rex]

120. I never noticed it much, not until she lost it over the IRS.

She was sounding like some fundy relatives of mine...but with no hides I just dismissed it. Then lately is was all about trust funds (trust funds, really?) Usually they go out with a lot of hidden posts. Pretty good trolling for 37k posts, no hides and almost 300 times on the jury. I cringe at thinking how many juries she trolled.

Her last OP does not fit anywhere on this site...looks just like a freeper OP.

I keep thinking about BBI...went out in almost the exact same way. Wonder if it was the same poster?

[joeybee12]

108. So, is this a conceerted effort to keep this thread alive...

As a sort of tribute...or reminder, given the recent events here today????

[Pretzel_Warrior]

109. You betcha, Joey! Dancing around the flames

Of another troll's funeral pyre.

[joeybee12]

110. Looks like it...

I thought all former members' threads get locked? Maybe there are so many of them they haven't caught up?

[Pretzel_Warrior]

111. No. They tend to let us gloat over long time disruptors

Such as SafetyKitten, MichiganDem and other recent pizza deliveries.

[joeybee12]

112. I can't remember SafetyKitten...

MichiganDem I have, er, fond memories of.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

114. They were opposite sides of the same coin

[joeybee12]

117. Aw! How could anyone with the name "Kitten" in it be banned???

[johnfunk]

116. BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA! So long, Lietroller! Don't let the door hitcha...

... where Ayn Rand splitcha!

[Raffi Ella]

124. HA, finally, EarlG shut you up.

I served on the jury that tried to close this OP, just came back to find they left it but YOU got banned anyway- Hallefreakinlujah

Good Riddance.

[Rex]

125. Wow! I did not know the ACA Website was self-aware!

Runnnn!!! Skynet is upon us!!

[Drunken Irishman]

148. IT'S SKYNET!

[11 Bravo]

134. Why is this still on the front page? Is a stake through the heart in order?

[Katashi_itto]

145. Goodbye dkf, you RW scum!

[bravenak]

146. Good grief.

Still doing this? Thought we took care of you yesterday. Get over it. The website will be fixed then you can find another reason to hate on Obamacare.

[Drunken Irishman]

147. So glad your retched ass is gone.

[jsr]

149. R.I.P. in the loving arms of Wall Street Banksters.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

151. Good riddance nt

[SoCalCisco]

153. HELLO?!!! W(ho)TF Cares How Much Website Cost When GOP & TP Just Cost US $24 Billion!

Are some of you Dems seriously going to jump on the GOP bandwagon about how much the website is costing?!

Get some freakin' perspective man! Even if the Website cost $1 billion to build that's still $23 Billion less than Cruz, TP & GOP cost our economy the 16 days THEY shut us down.

I can't believe this is the issue people are wasting time talking about. And seriously, I can care less what these bean counter whiners have to say. They want to talk about cost? Let's go back to Iraq and the $3 trillion wasted not to mention the over 4,500 guys Bush 43 sent to their deaths just to avenge Bush 41 by taking out Saddam.

Shut down these GOP/TP bean counters and finger pointers that come here and spew this crap and get back on point.
Please guys...get off the GOP bean counter wagon and go get some perspective. Peace!