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Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 10:13 PM Oct 2013

I friggin' LOVE my state (WA) - my 18 yo daughter is registered to vote and didn't even know it

She texted me, asking why she had just gotten a voting pamphlet in the mail.

I said, "Probably because you just got a Washington State ID card."

Who knows how long she might have put it off... now she'll get a ballot in the mail. Knowing her, she'll probably sit down with the voting pamphlet, carefully go over everything, fill out the ballot and send it in.

Contrast this with other states that are doing their level best to discourage turnout, make it difficult to vote, or out-and-out disenfranchise likely Democratic voters.

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I friggin' LOVE my state (WA) - my 18 yo daughter is registered to vote and didn't even know it (Original Post) Flying Squirrel Oct 2013 OP
Living in GA, that IS a big contrast. GaYellowDawg Oct 2013 #1
I have always felt that voting eligability should be an opt-out arrangement. arcane1 Oct 2013 #2
Love it, too! Kath1 Oct 2013 #3
Oh, I'm sure she will. Flying Squirrel Oct 2013 #6
Excellent! Kath1 Oct 2013 #14
I grew up in WA, and miss it. It's a really great place. Zorra Oct 2013 #4
Yes I love living in Washington State gopiscrap Oct 2013 #5
Vote by mail is the way to go for voter participation jrandom421 Oct 2013 #7
Oregon votes by mail as well, we set turnout records in 2010 and yet I hear daily on DU that Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #13
I love our state like no other. Aristus Oct 2013 #17
That's why I use my county's drop boxes strategery blunder Oct 2013 #18
Oh, I like that idea! PotatoChip Oct 2013 #8
Yep, it's connected to the Dept of Motor Vehicles, called 'motor voter law'. n/t Flying Squirrel Oct 2013 #10
Now THAT is true freedom, Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #9
wonderful! fizzgig Oct 2013 #11
Socialism! IronLionZion Oct 2013 #12
That's my main complaint with WA... Flying Squirrel Oct 2013 #15
And vote by mail too. No polling places. No lines. nolabear Oct 2013 #16

GaYellowDawg

(5,111 posts)
1. Living in GA, that IS a big contrast.
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 10:25 PM
Oct 2013

Here, they make getting a driver's license the biggest pain in the ass that they can, and then require it for voting. It's absolutely astounding that in a democracy, that discouraging turnout or carrying out voter suppression isn't considered next to treason.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
2. I have always felt that voting eligability should be an opt-out arrangement.
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 10:31 PM
Oct 2013

As soon as you reach voting age, you are eligible. As it should be.

I won't go as far as to endorse making voting compulsory, but I don't mind using peer pressure to direct people to the polls

 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
6. Oh, I'm sure she will.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 12:36 AM
Oct 2013

We've had more than a few conversations, I've shown her a lot of posts from DU too

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
14. Excellent!
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 10:57 AM
Oct 2013

My daughter is 24. She's a very committed liberal/progressive and I'm a proud mom!

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
4. I grew up in WA, and miss it. It's a really great place.
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 10:59 PM
Oct 2013

And it's even gotten better since I left.

If it had a warmer climate I'd still be there, for sure.

jrandom421

(1,060 posts)
7. Vote by mail is the way to go for voter participation
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 01:41 AM
Oct 2013

In 2012, I think Washington had over 80% turnout, and some sections of King and Snohomish county approached 90%.! It was something like 84% turnout in Seattle alone.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
13. Oregon votes by mail as well, we set turnout records in 2010 and yet I hear daily on DU that
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 09:38 AM
Oct 2013

'the entire nation went Red in 2010 because of lazy voters'. I tell them it was a regional thing, not one West Coast state had any such troubles but they just repeat 'liberals refused to vote' then I point out that CA, OR and WA are filled with liberals and had huge turn out and they repeat 'all those lazy liberals wanted to teach Obama a lesson!'. So they speak in circles and never consider altering their own State's laws to rid themselves of long lines and voter ID and 'e voting machines' and all that Back East Goodness.

Aristus

(72,318 posts)
17. I love our state like no other.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 10:23 PM
Oct 2013

But I disagree on the vote-by-mail. I loved voting at the polls. I loved the sense of a shared cultural experience. When I got in line during the big elections, I knew I was surrounded by people who agreed with my politics, disagreed with my politics, or couldn't be bothered to care if I asked them. But we were all there to exercise our rights as Americans, regardless of outcome.

One of the greatest nights of my life was Election Day, 2008. I voted late because I was in PA School at the time. All day, every time we went on break from lecture, laptops would come out, and we would all check Election Day stats. I could hardly wait to get out of school in order to go to the polls to vote.

When I got there, the line was the longest I'd ever seen. Easily three times as long as the next longest, in 2004. The wait ended up being an hour and a half. My brother kept sending me texts, letting me know which states had declared, and for whom. By the time I got my ballot, I knew Barack Obama had won. But I voted just the same. The devil and all of his demons couldn't have deterred me by that point. It was a one-in-a-million night; one for the books.

Last November, when the election was called for PBO, I was sitting right here at this computer, and I cracked a bottle of champagne and celebrated. But my vote had been a tiny let-down, sending it in by mail as if paying the heating bill.

I miss the polls...

strategery blunder

(4,225 posts)
18. That's why I use my county's drop boxes
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 10:37 PM
Oct 2013

It isn't quite the experience and anticipation of voting with your fellow citizens on Election Day, but hand-delivering my ballot still gives me fuzzier feelings than mailing it off like some unimportant electric bill.

And the advantages of high voter participation and ease of voting are not to be denied. When I contacted my congresscritter regarding the debt ceiling fiasco, I reminded him how the state legislature handled budget disagreements. State Republicans here wouldn't dare fire a Cruz Missile as there would be no way for them to disenfranchise enough voters to NOT be held accountable for it in the next election cycle, and they know it.

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
8. Oh, I like that idea!
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 01:50 AM
Oct 2013

Does it work the same when someone gets their driver's license?

As an aside, I've never been to the PNW, but it looks lovely based on pics I have seen.

Congrats to your daughter!

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
9. Now THAT is true freedom,
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 03:06 AM
Oct 2013

and if these conservatives and libertarians were really as big freedom-fighters as they claim to be, then they'd support giving everyone the right to vote and making voting as convenient as possible. But of course, they know they lose leverage as more folks show up.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
11. wonderful!
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 03:26 AM
Oct 2013

it is beautifully easy to vote in my county in colorado. mail in ballots, early voting, multiple voting centers across the city and county.

it kills me when i hear about people standing in line for hours to vote.

IronLionZion

(51,425 posts)
12. Socialism!
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:27 AM
Oct 2013

GOP will tell you government won't help you, then they get elected and prove it.

Oh yes, there are many Republicans militantly opposed to automated voter registration when you sign up for other things like drivers license or other government services. It doesn't cost that much, but conservative governments like to cut funding for everything, and want less voters. Its one of the reasons they constantly tell their constituents that government is slow and inefficient, just look at the DMV.

If you go to the DMV in a red state, you are going to have a very bad experience and hate your government by the time you get your license. If you go the DMV in Maryland, in and out in about 30 minutes and the current wait times for regional offices are posted online so just go to the less crowded one. You and I likely pay slightly higher state taxes for dramatically superior services. When I reported some unsafe road conditions in my neighborhood, I was impressed how quickly the state came and fixed it and followed up with me to see if it was done right.

In most ways other than income taxes, life is better in liberal states.

 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
15. That's my main complaint with WA...
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 10:10 PM
Oct 2013

There is no state income tax, and the sales tax is very regressive - 9.6% now. There is a lot of resistance to a state income tax for some reason. Probably because people are suspicious that they would bring back the sales tax on top of it.

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