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Obama is NOT cancelling your healthcare!! The insurance companies are. (Original Post) legcramp Oct 2013 OP
Whatever cthulu2016 Oct 2013 #1
Exactly. Insurance companies are trying to scrap the Skidmore Oct 2013 #2
they aren't canceling brothers PatrynXX Oct 2013 #6
At least one tv station in every market ashling Oct 2013 #12
eat a banana NightWatcher Oct 2013 #3
Never did a damned thing for mine. I finally started taking a magnesium supplement kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #5
+1 worked for me too! eom LittleGirl Oct 2013 #7
Makes me sick to think how many nights over the years I have awakened with kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #9
mine were recent LittleGirl Oct 2013 #13
yup exactly gopiscrap Oct 2013 #4
I don't care for that talking point madville Oct 2013 #8
Thank you. delete_bush Oct 2013 #10
the existing junk plans can be grandfathered in according to the law. IronLionZion Oct 2013 #14
The Insurance companies are awful cocky, aren't they? ReRe Oct 2013 #11

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
2. Exactly. Insurance companies are trying to scrap the
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:50 PM
Oct 2013

risk pools and policies designed to allow them not to actually pay out for health care. They also must develop products that account for the standards of the floor for coverage established by ACA.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
6. they aren't canceling brothers
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 06:49 PM
Oct 2013

they are jacking it up big time. I tell him he should check the difference ..

Course for whatever reason my Medicare Part D provider Windsor RX is ending coverage and somehow this is obama's fault.

ashling

(25,771 posts)
12. At least one tv station in every market
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 07:57 PM
Oct 2013

should run a marathon of John Grisham's / Francis Ford Coppala's The Rainmaker w/ Matt Damon, Danny DeVito, Claire Danes


and on TBS and TCM at the BS/BM hearings and force the Republicans to watch a real death panel in action!





 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
5. Never did a damned thing for mine. I finally started taking a magnesium supplement
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 06:43 PM
Oct 2013

and for the first time in decades I'm cramp free at night.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
9. Makes me sick to think how many nights over the years I have awakened with
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 07:01 PM
Oct 2013

absolute SCREAMER leg cramps.

LittleGirl

(8,999 posts)
13. mine were recent
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:51 PM
Oct 2013

They used to cramp once in a while but never as severe as the couple of times since January that woke me up (and husband too) with fits of pain! I was screaming in pain too. I limped for a couple of days after that too. Haven't had one in months now. Magnesium must have been the cure for me as well.

madville

(7,847 posts)
8. I don't care for that talking point
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 06:59 PM
Oct 2013

In the real world the insurance companies offered a product. The ACA mandated they discontinue offering that product, so the cancelled those policies.

How is it incorrect to say those policies were cancelled because of the minimum coverage requirements in the law (which are great by the way)? The law did cause those policies to be cancelled, and there are better policies available because of it.

The original "if you like your plan and doctor you'll get to keep them" talking point was incorrect in hindsight, but it did sound reassuring at the time.

delete_bush

(1,712 posts)
10. Thank you.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 07:17 PM
Oct 2013

The partisan nature of this site often excludes rational discourse. I fail to see how this makes "us" much different from "them". Once one leaves this site and ventures into the real world, this type of question is asked and, obviously, is legitimate.

IronLionZion

(51,218 posts)
14. the existing junk plans can be grandfathered in according to the law.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:45 PM
Oct 2013

the law says they can't sell new plans that don't cover the minimums, not to cancel the old plans. Insurance companies are canceling existing plans instead of grandfathering because they feel like it, not because they are required to. It makes business sense for them to try to simplify their offerings and get more revenue.

ReRe

(12,189 posts)
11. The Insurance companies are awful cocky, aren't they?
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 07:38 PM
Oct 2013

Was the Administration informed that the insurance companies were going to do this? Or was The Adm the last to know? Did anyone hear that "poor" fellow On NBC News tonight whining about losing his ins and having to go to ACA and would have to pay for pregnancy benefits, and his wife was past child-bearing age? You know what I couldn't detest more? A rich dude who hasn't a care in the effing world, near 65 himself, crying about having to change to ACA. Why isn't he pissed at his insurance co for dropping him? Because he's an old Tea Partier, don't cha know? This trick by the insurance companies might be the case and the cause for universal health care for all. Would end the never-ending whining once and for all!

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