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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 06:45 PM Oct 2013

15 Ways The United States Is The Best (At Being The Worst)

15 Ways The United States Is The Best (At Being The Worst)
Maxwell Strachan, Alissa Scheller & Jan Diehm - HuffPo
Posted: 10/29/2013 10:26 am EDT | Updated: 10/29/2013 5:59 pm EDT

















More: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/29/american-exceptionalism_n_4170683.html?utm_hp_ref=business




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15 Ways The United States Is The Best (At Being The Worst) (Original Post) WillyT Oct 2013 OP
thank you this needs to go viral gopiscrap Oct 2013 #1
Holy shit! We're #1 !! Autumn Oct 2013 #2
Not quite number 1 RobertEarl Oct 2013 #4
There is that, but hey we will strive to beat them. Autumn Oct 2013 #5
Is this a great country pscot Oct 2013 #3
It's "what." CBHagman Oct 2013 #24
All 15 are indicative of a government which promotes the welfare of corporations rather indepat Oct 2013 #6
and yet we see the media promoting we do less for the people fascisthunter Oct 2013 #7
The Media Works For The Status Quo... Dontcha Know... WillyT Oct 2013 #8
. fascisthunter Oct 2013 #31
It's indicative of a society that no longer functions. Brigid Oct 2013 #10
K&R woo me with science Oct 2013 #9
Ya Know... It's Sort Of Like WHY We Vote For Democrats... To Fight This Shit... WillyT Oct 2013 #12
It sure used to work that way. woo me with science Oct 2013 #20
We could do better, but our rich are more deserving than the rest of us. nt SDjack Oct 2013 #11
Yes... I Have To Fellate Them... As Soon As I Get Done With My 3rd Job... WillyT Oct 2013 #13
And those are the good points Demeter Oct 2013 #14
Yep... And I Would Love To See THOSE Graphs... WillyT Oct 2013 #15
No other country has nearly as many billh58 Oct 2013 #16
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Oct 2013 #17
Sobering stuff, thanks for posting it. marble falls Oct 2013 #18
You Are Quite Welcome !!! WillyT Oct 2013 #19
Ronald Raygun would be so proud. Scuba Oct 2013 #21
Most of those aren't fair comparisons treestar Oct 2013 #22
Very true davidpdx Oct 2013 #26
how is it not fair to compare sick time or maternity leave to other countries? nashville_brook Oct 2013 #29
K&R B Calm Oct 2013 #23
Makes me sick. K&R for the sad truth. nt DLevine Oct 2013 #25
And so, we are indeed exceptional. n/t Alkene Oct 2013 #27
holy crap. nashville_brook Oct 2013 #28
Republicans have reduced the meaning of Freedom to "freedom to become rich and own a gun" AZ Progressive Oct 2013 #30
I don't know... just thought i'd give this a kick fascisthunter Oct 2013 #32
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
4. Not quite number 1
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 06:53 PM
Oct 2013

Lesotho, Swaziland and some other small country stand in our way to complete rule. They better watch it. They can see what we did to Grenada.

Autumn

(48,951 posts)
5. There is that, but hey we will strive to beat them.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 06:56 PM
Oct 2013

I'm sure the current group in Congress will get us there.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
6. All 15 are indicative of a government which promotes the welfare of corporations rather
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 07:42 PM
Oct 2013

than the general welfare. These data are so stark as to prove this simple thesis. What if one day the people get sick and tired of having this crap shoved in there faces, have had it up to here, and decide they ain't gonna' take it any more?

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
7. and yet we see the media promoting we do less for the people
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 07:47 PM
Oct 2013

of our own country... sick.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
12. Ya Know... It's Sort Of Like WHY We Vote For Democrats... To Fight This Shit...
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 09:30 PM
Oct 2013

Live and learn, no ???




 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
14. And those are the good points
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 09:34 PM
Oct 2013

There's the complete voiding of the rule of law...destruction of civil rights...mandating taxes to support insurance companies...etc, etc,

billh58

(6,655 posts)
16. No other country has nearly as many
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 09:38 PM
Oct 2013

guns as people: 88.8 guns per 100 people. Click on the graphic, and it takes you to:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/16/murders-shootings-and-gun-sales-per-day_n_2488664.html

"Tuesday -- the day before President Barack Obama unveiled his new proposals to reduce gun violence, including background checks on all gun sales and a revised ban on assault weapons -- was like any other average day of bloodshed in the United States.

There were no catastrophes comparable to the Newtown tragedy that spurred the national debate on gun control, only the run-of-the-mill shootings that make the U.S. a leader of gun crime in the so-called developed world
."

But the NRA apologists tell us that because murder rates are dropping, more guns are a good thing and there is no need for any further gun control measures. Being number one and the world leader in not only the number of guns per capita, but in gun injuries and deaths is indeed something the NRA and it's enablers can be very proud of indeed.

Because, you know: Second Amendment, My Rights, Freedom, and Liberty. Yay America! Home of the most armed and dangerous society in the developed world.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
22. Most of those aren't fair comparisons
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 07:43 AM
Oct 2013

In fact our military spending ends up benefitting other countries, which is why they have money left for more social programs. The other countries are smaller, with more homogenous populations and longer histories as countries. The incarceration rates may be meaningless, as our laws are inherently different from most other countries. Or it may be more efficient enforcement, or even that people can't get out of sentences due to their connections.

There is so much more to all of that, that the article is quite disingenuous. And it has an apparent goal.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
26. Very true
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 07:57 AM
Oct 2013

The other thing is collective societies are more likely to use family as a social safety net then the government. Here in Korea in terms of newborns many times family members take care of the child (grandparents). My niece was taken care of by her grandmother quite a bit over the years until she became a teen then less so.

The laws are much more strict and much better enforced then in other countries. Granted the drug and gun laws need to be changed.

Korea also has no guns which means the number of guns owned is very small and the number of gun deaths per year is almost nil.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
29. how is it not fair to compare sick time or maternity leave to other countries?
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 12:04 PM
Oct 2013

or the gap in income equality?

seriously not tracking your logic.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
30. Republicans have reduced the meaning of Freedom to "freedom to become rich and own a gun"
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 12:22 PM
Oct 2013

And of course, who cares if, for the majority of people, one has to sell one's soul and be unethical, manipulative, cunning, and even criminal in order to become rich (because becoming rich the fair way takes exceptional talent, intelligence, creativity, as well as a lot of luck and dedication and often a high degree of social skills.)

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
32. I don't know... just thought i'd give this a kick
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 10:48 PM
Oct 2013

well, do you really give a shit about your country or not, because in truth, things aren't looking so good for the so called, "land of opportunity". Unless you are a a privileged sociopath, that is.

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