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arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 07:58 PM Oct 2013

botox

Last edited Wed Oct 30, 2013, 08:29 PM - Edit history (1)

Anyone have any experience with it? Deep frownlines are not helpful when teaching young children because looking angry when you arent doesnt put certain kids at ease.

Edited to say I did it. It should take four days for results. Hurt way less than my tattoos.

I also got some filler in the "parenthes" around my mouth. That already looks better.

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botox (Original Post) arely staircase Oct 2013 OP
Isn't just smiling sufficient ? dipsydoodle Oct 2013 #1
apparently not for some arely staircase Oct 2013 #3
Its called character. dipsydoodle Oct 2013 #7
well that wouldnt happen in my case arely staircase Oct 2013 #9
In the case I mentioned dipsydoodle Oct 2013 #11
I dont want to look younger arely staircase Oct 2013 #12
I get it every six months. Laffy Kat Oct 2013 #38
thanks arely staircase Oct 2013 #43
my daughter had it prescribed off label for headaches Coexist Oct 2013 #2
I had botox for migraine. Control-Z Oct 2013 #14
wow.. correlation. Coexist Oct 2013 #18
Have friends who swear by it. Could have complications though. JaneyVee Oct 2013 #4
I like it but can't afford it. Cleita Oct 2013 #5
yeah it is expensive arely staircase Oct 2013 #6
love it elehhhhna Oct 2013 #8
yeah and that's all I want is to lose the angry between the brows arely staircase Oct 2013 #10
Happy Birthday 1 day early! nt cry baby Oct 2013 #17
I agree about going to an M.D. Laffy Kat Oct 2013 #40
I'm considering it. RiffRandell Oct 2013 #13
what moisturizer do you use arely staircase Oct 2013 #15
Honestly, I use this Loreal product. RiffRandell Oct 2013 #22
I thought this may be a thread about the blonde bimbo. I've made up my mind not to worry about such lonestarnot Oct 2013 #16
really me neither arely staircase Oct 2013 #21
So what are you saying then, kids can't love an old frownie face? lonestarnot Oct 2013 #44
I missed this one arely staircase Oct 2013 #34
No you couldn't have. lonestarnot Oct 2013 #46
no seriously nt arely staircase Oct 2013 #47
Here, here and here. lonestarnot Oct 2013 #48
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #19
My husband gets it for leg spasms ismnotwasm Oct 2013 #20
exactly arely staircase Oct 2013 #23
Some people don't get lines BainsBane Oct 2013 #25
I got a few but I'm ok with them ismnotwasm Oct 2013 #26
good genes arely staircase Oct 2013 #27
I avoid the sun BainsBane Oct 2013 #29
oh boy arely staircase Oct 2013 #30
Yep, the sun and smoking are the worst BainsBane Oct 2013 #32
Botulism toxin? longship Oct 2013 #24
I have used it and Restalyne. I love them both. I first tried it because of the benefits for okaawhatever Oct 2013 #28
I agree completely wrt botox. phylny Oct 2013 #31
resetalyn is a filler? nt arely staircase Oct 2013 #35
Yes, Restalyne costs more but lasts longer. nt okaawhatever Oct 2013 #37
There was an article on Jezebel not to long ago tammywammy Oct 2013 #33
yes thatvis exactly my problem arely staircase Oct 2013 #36
I say give it a try then. tammywammy Oct 2013 #39
It can't hurt to try ismnotwasm Oct 2013 #41
I know someone who had Botox done, and recommends against it jmowreader Oct 2013 #42
kicked for update nt arely staircase Oct 2013 #45

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
3. apparently not for some
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:05 PM
Oct 2013

Im not someone trying to hang on to my youth. It isnt a dorian grey thing. I can actually look mean when smiling and laughing. Deep creases from years in politics and PR.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
7. Its called character.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:10 PM
Oct 2013

Only person I knew who had botox treatment topped herself when it didn't work out as expected. That was very very sad.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
9. well that wouldnt happen in my case
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:12 PM
Oct 2013

If it doesnt work it just doesnt. Like I said it isnt a pining for more youthful days.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
11. In the case I mentioned
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:15 PM
Oct 2013

she was trying to look younger than her early fifties. What a fucking waste - I thought she looked just great as she was.

Laffy Kat

(16,354 posts)
38. I get it every six months.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:05 PM
Oct 2013

Love it. You're probably talking about "marionette lines" (hate the name, but it's a good description). Botox only works on wrinkles, for the marionette lines you need a good filler. I get both the filler and Botox at the same time x2/year. Takes YEARS off!

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
43. thanks
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:38 PM
Oct 2013

I am probably going to do it. We have a very good doctor in town. He recomends fillers for my "parenthes" around my mouth but says the botox should take care of the angry frown which is all I care bout now. May do the other stuff later.

Coexist

(24,542 posts)
2. my daughter had it prescribed off label for headaches
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:03 PM
Oct 2013

she had a terrible reaction landing her in the hospital for 3 days.

Her head swelled up terribly.

That said, she looked much younger than her 18 years for a couple months.

Control-Z

(15,681 posts)
14. I had botox for migraine.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:24 PM
Oct 2013

And also had a terrible reaction. I was deathly ill for a week. It felt like I'd been poisoned - which I had.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
5. I like it but can't afford it.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:06 PM
Oct 2013

If done by a qualified doctor, it does improve ones appearance. Also if you have the money, one of the injectables that last longer like Restalyne might be more to your liking. Botox is only good for a couple of months..


arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
6. yeah it is expensive
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:09 PM
Oct 2013

But the deep frownlines do seem to make a lot of kids think I am angry or mean. So I am considering it as a professional investment.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
8. love it
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:10 PM
Oct 2013

no mad face. I don't do the forehead or crowsfeet - those are cool. The mad lines between the brows, yes. Five painless pricks across the brow.It wears off in 4 months.
Go to a plastic surgeon. They know the underlying musculature of the face.

It also gives you a bit of a brow lift and makes the bags under the eyes recede. SHots for crowsfeet (at least for me) make the bags bigger and give you a dead eyed smile.

Try it.

I'm 54 tomorrow and I've been doing it @ 3x per year for about 4 years.

Love it.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
10. yeah and that's all I want is to lose the angry between the brows
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:14 PM
Oct 2013

I look like I am frowning when im totally relaxed and happy.

Laffy Kat

(16,354 posts)
40. I agree about going to an M.D.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:08 PM
Oct 2013

I go to a cosmetic surgeon (face only). I would never go to a non-M.D.

RiffRandell

(5,909 posts)
13. I'm considering it.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:23 PM
Oct 2013

I have two lines on my forehead that bother me....I use good moisturizer every night and luckily have good genes as my Mom doesn't have many wrinkles. I love being tan and get really tan in the summer which is going to bite me in the ass some day.

My friend is an aesthetician that says I wouldn't need that much...she does a lot of stuff to her face as it's free but I wouldn't mess with my lips.

My husband thinks it's a stupid idea but I may put it on my xmas list.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
15. what moisturizer do you use
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:28 PM
Oct 2013

I avoid anyrhing with fragrance because I have read it is counter productive.

RiffRandell

(5,909 posts)
22. Honestly, I use this Loreal product.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:44 PM
Oct 2013

My friend used to sell me all kinds of products but even with her discount it end up costing me 50 bucks for a tiny bottle.

I can't find the review as I have been using it for years but it was highly rated. I am a former smoker (and sometimes cheat) and noticed one of those lines above my lips and freaked out....I'm thinking I'm going to turn into Juno from Beetlejuice.

Started using the Loreal and it went away after 3 weeks. I go through a jar once a week but have no crows feet or any other wrinkles....just those 2 damn lines.

I'm also interested in Cindy Crawford's line....she looks great!


http://www.lorealparisusa.com/en/Products/Skin-Care/Moisturizers/RevitaLift-Anti-Wrinkle-Firming-Night-Cream.aspx


 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
16. I thought this may be a thread about the blonde bimbo. I've made up my mind not to worry about such
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:28 PM
Oct 2013

Wrinkles hmmmmf.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
21. really me neither
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:44 PM
Oct 2013

The crows feet dont bother me. I have actually enjoyed entering middle age. Frankly I have earned my wrinkles and I eat right excercise etc. Like I said I just have developed deep creases in my brow that have evoked enough why are you mad? From eight year-olds and parents have told me their kids think I look angry. Not most but enough. And I know damned well its because of my constant frowns. So if a couple of shots between the eyes solve that problem I am willing to do that. I got them from years of political high stress PR work. I became a teacher to get away from all that and took a giant income cut to do something I love. So the angry furrowed brow is a hangover from those days and I have researched it and its potential side effects and am leaning toward smoothing that out. Trust me like I said I am perfectly fine looking forty something. But angry looking forty something is counter productive with some of the eighr year-olds I love and work with.

Response to arely staircase (Original post)

ismnotwasm

(41,919 posts)
20. My husband gets it for leg spasms
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:40 PM
Oct 2013

For his MS

I know few people who use it cosmetically, if it's overdone, they start to look a little strange--probably scarier to kids, who have learned natural expressions. In moderation it looks fine.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
23. exactly
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:49 PM
Oct 2013

I have seen fifty something with brows as smooth as a baby's skin and that would be equally as unerving as my frown.

BainsBane

(53,001 posts)
25. Some people don't get lines
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 09:13 PM
Oct 2013

I can't even make myself have lines in my forehead when I scrunch it up. I don't know why, I just don't. I'll be 52 on Saturday and I don't have any wrinkles. My eye lids droop a bit though.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
30. oh boy
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 09:22 PM
Oct 2013

The women my age who back in high school hit the tanning beds regularly look sixty now. They are in their mifv 40s

okaawhatever

(9,453 posts)
28. I have used it and Restalyne. I love them both. I first tried it because of the benefits for
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 09:18 PM
Oct 2013

migraines. It did help, but I also liked what it did for my appearance. Restalyne did wonders too. I didn't have a reaction at all. No side effects, nothing. It lasts about six months and the Restalyne about a year. My biggest problem is the crease between my eyebrows. It's pretty noticeable and the botox relaxes it. I did have a highly qualified physician do it the first two times and the third time it was by a nurse practitioner who had done over one thousand injections. Good luck. I'd definitely do it. If you're concerned about a reaction, they may be able to test. I don't know.

phylny

(8,353 posts)
31. I agree completely wrt botox.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 09:52 PM
Oct 2013

I've had it done about 6 times in my life between my brows. Smooths out fairly quickly, and lasts about 3 months or so for me. No side effects whatsoever.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
33. There was an article on Jezebel not to long ago
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 09:56 PM
Oct 2013

They called it "resting bitch face". Where you look upset or angry even when you're not.

Why I Love My Bitchy Resting Face
http://jezebel.com/why-i-love-my-bitchy-resting-face-514067148

Is Bitchy Resting Face Over? Or Is It Just the Beginning?
http://jezebel.com/is-bitchy-resting-face-over-or-is-it-just-the-beginnin-646947759

I've never had botox, but if you think it'll help with the kiddos then I guess what does it hurt to try?

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
36. yes thatvis exactly my problem
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:04 PM
Oct 2013

I look angry (to some, enough) when I am totally happy. Especially little kids who I am trying to educate.

ismnotwasm

(41,919 posts)
41. It can't hurt to try
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:08 PM
Oct 2013

Right? It's pricey, but if it accomplishes what you want and you can afford it, why not?

jmowreader

(50,449 posts)
42. I know someone who had Botox done, and recommends against it
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:09 PM
Oct 2013

She had $1500 worth of it injected. It's supposed to last six months; on her it lasted six weeks. But she said it was great while it lasted.

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