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Anyone have any experience with it? Deep frownlines are not helpful when teaching young children because looking angry when you arent doesnt put certain kids at ease.
Edited to say I did it. It should take four days for results. Hurt way less than my tattoos.
I also got some filler in the "parenthes" around my mouth. That already looks better.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Im not someone trying to hang on to my youth. It isnt a dorian grey thing. I can actually look mean when smiling and laughing. Deep creases from years in politics and PR.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Only person I knew who had botox treatment topped herself when it didn't work out as expected. That was very very sad.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)If it doesnt work it just doesnt. Like I said it isnt a pining for more youthful days.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)she was trying to look younger than her early fifties. What a fucking waste - I thought she looked just great as she was.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Just not angry.
Laffy Kat
(16,354 posts)Love it. You're probably talking about "marionette lines" (hate the name, but it's a good description). Botox only works on wrinkles, for the marionette lines you need a good filler. I get both the filler and Botox at the same time x2/year. Takes YEARS off!
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)I am probably going to do it. We have a very good doctor in town. He recomends fillers for my "parenthes" around my mouth but says the botox should take care of the angry frown which is all I care bout now. May do the other stuff later.
Coexist
(24,542 posts)she had a terrible reaction landing her in the hospital for 3 days.
Her head swelled up terribly.
That said, she looked much younger than her 18 years for a couple months.
Control-Z
(15,681 posts)And also had a terrible reaction. I was deathly ill for a week. It felt like I'd been poisoned - which I had.
Coexist
(24,542 posts)very interesting.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)If done by a qualified doctor, it does improve ones appearance. Also if you have the money, one of the injectables that last longer like Restalyne might be more to your liking. Botox is only good for a couple of months..
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)But the deep frownlines do seem to make a lot of kids think I am angry or mean. So I am considering it as a professional investment.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)no mad face. I don't do the forehead or crowsfeet - those are cool. The mad lines between the brows, yes. Five painless pricks across the brow.It wears off in 4 months.
Go to a plastic surgeon. They know the underlying musculature of the face.
It also gives you a bit of a brow lift and makes the bags under the eyes recede. SHots for crowsfeet (at least for me) make the bags bigger and give you a dead eyed smile.
Try it.
I'm 54 tomorrow and I've been doing it @ 3x per year for about 4 years.
Love it.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)I look like I am frowning when im totally relaxed and happy.
cry baby
(6,682 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,354 posts)I go to a cosmetic surgeon (face only). I would never go to a non-M.D.
RiffRandell
(5,909 posts)I have two lines on my forehead that bother me....I use good moisturizer every night and luckily have good genes as my Mom doesn't have many wrinkles. I love being tan and get really tan in the summer which is going to bite me in the ass some day.
My friend is an aesthetician that says I wouldn't need that much...she does a lot of stuff to her face as it's free but I wouldn't mess with my lips.
My husband thinks it's a stupid idea but I may put it on my xmas list.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)I avoid anyrhing with fragrance because I have read it is counter productive.
RiffRandell
(5,909 posts)My friend used to sell me all kinds of products but even with her discount it end up costing me 50 bucks for a tiny bottle.
I can't find the review as I have been using it for years but it was highly rated. I am a former smoker (and sometimes cheat) and noticed one of those lines above my lips and freaked out....I'm thinking I'm going to turn into Juno from Beetlejuice.
Started using the Loreal and it went away after 3 weeks. I go through a jar once a week but have no crows feet or any other wrinkles....just those 2 damn lines.
I'm also interested in Cindy Crawford's line....she looks great!
http://www.lorealparisusa.com/en/Products/Skin-Care/Moisturizers/RevitaLift-Anti-Wrinkle-Firming-Night-Cream.aspx
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Wrinkles hmmmmf.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)The crows feet dont bother me. I have actually enjoyed entering middle age. Frankly I have earned my wrinkles and I eat right excercise etc. Like I said I just have developed deep creases in my brow that have evoked enough why are you mad? From eight year-olds and parents have told me their kids think I look angry. Not most but enough. And I know damned well its because of my constant frowns. So if a couple of shots between the eyes solve that problem I am willing to do that. I got them from years of political high stress PR work. I became a teacher to get away from all that and took a giant income cut to do something I love. So the angry furrowed brow is a hangover from those days and I have researched it and its potential side effects and am leaning toward smoothing that out. Trust me like I said I am perfectly fine looking forty something. But angry looking forty something is counter productive with some of the eighr year-olds I love and work with.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Who is the blond "bimbo"?
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)lonestarnot
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ismnotwasm
(41,919 posts)For his MS
I know few people who use it cosmetically, if it's overdone, they start to look a little strange--probably scarier to kids, who have learned natural expressions. In moderation it looks fine.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)I have seen fifty something with brows as smooth as a baby's skin and that would be equally as unerving as my frown.
BainsBane
(53,001 posts)I can't even make myself have lines in my forehead when I scrunch it up. I don't know why, I just don't. I'll be 52 on Saturday and I don't have any wrinkles. My eye lids droop a bit though.
ismnotwasm
(41,919 posts)I have a few interesting scars I'm ok with as well.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)and clean living maybe.
BainsBane
(53,001 posts)and genes, yes. I have my mother's Irish skin.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)The women my age who back in high school hit the tanning beds regularly look sixty now. They are in their mifv 40s
BainsBane
(53,001 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)It has uses in neurological medicine. There's no way I would use it for cosmetics.
okaawhatever
(9,453 posts)migraines. It did help, but I also liked what it did for my appearance. Restalyne did wonders too. I didn't have a reaction at all. No side effects, nothing. It lasts about six months and the Restalyne about a year. My biggest problem is the crease between my eyebrows. It's pretty noticeable and the botox relaxes it. I did have a highly qualified physician do it the first two times and the third time it was by a nurse practitioner who had done over one thousand injections. Good luck. I'd definitely do it. If you're concerned about a reaction, they may be able to test. I don't know.
phylny
(8,353 posts)I've had it done about 6 times in my life between my brows. Smooths out fairly quickly, and lasts about 3 months or so for me. No side effects whatsoever.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)okaawhatever
(9,453 posts)tammywammy
(26,582 posts)They called it "resting bitch face". Where you look upset or angry even when you're not.
Why I Love My Bitchy Resting Face
http://jezebel.com/why-i-love-my-bitchy-resting-face-514067148
Is Bitchy Resting Face Over? Or Is It Just the Beginning?
http://jezebel.com/is-bitchy-resting-face-over-or-is-it-just-the-beginnin-646947759
I've never had botox, but if you think it'll help with the kiddos then I guess what does it hurt to try?
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)I look angry (to some, enough) when I am totally happy. Especially little kids who I am trying to educate.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,919 posts)Right? It's pricey, but if it accomplishes what you want and you can afford it, why not?
jmowreader
(50,449 posts)She had $1500 worth of it injected. It's supposed to last six months; on her it lasted six weeks. But she said it was great while it lasted.