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A lemon wedge can help.

For greater thrift, be sure to cut a lemon into small pieces.

MineralMan
(151,269 posts)Screw that. This kind of crap is productive of absolutely nothing. Nothing.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)MineralMan
(151,269 posts)Thanks for acknowledging my kick.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)MineralMan
(151,269 posts)I post. I comment. You post. You comment. It's DU. We all post and comment here.
Thanks for noticing my post and my comment. And you were even kind enough to link to my OP. Thanks!
It validates me. Now, I'm encouraged to post and comment even more.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)So what up with all the whining?
MineralMan
(151,269 posts)Did you have any comment on the original post of this thread, or did you just want to chat with me for some reason?
bvar22
(39,909 posts)I enjoy exposing hypocrisy.
MineralMan
(151,269 posts)It beats sitting in the shade, I imagine.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)It beats chasing odors in the basement,
and then spending time composing personal narratives about my adventures,
and posting them to General Discussion at DU.
I've enjoyed our little tete-a-tete, but no matter how enjoyable, it is rude and self absorbed.
I completely agree with the OP.
It is appropriate and necessary to rally Democrats to voice a [font size=3]LOUD opposition[/font] to the offered cuts to the cornerstone of the Democratic Party, Social Security. This should be posted every single day.
Sadly, Social Security will NEVER again be the "untouchable 3rd Rail of Politics".
The precedent has been set, and our Social Security WILL forever be On-the-Table in future "negotiations" until it is gone.
I understand why this would make conservatives and former Republicans happy.
They have hated it since FDR.
Now, as a review for after the Hi-jacking and an apology to the OP, AnotherMcIntosh:
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Cat Food Tip #1 Overlooked by the Cat-Food Commission[/font]

For greater thrift, be sure to cut a lemon into small pieces.

DURec & Kick for the OP!
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MineralMan
(151,269 posts)See you in some other thread, I'm sure.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)DJ13
(23,671 posts)DetlefK
(16,670 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)For the truly frugal, I wonder whether it's possible to home-brew tequila.
DJ13
(23,671 posts)I think I'll give that a try!
frazzled
(18,402 posts)Cat food is not even cheap (believe me, I have a cat), so I'm not sure why this slogan is even there, except for sensationalism.
How about "rice and beans," or something more appropriate?
MineralMan
(151,269 posts)by people who don't bother to take the time to actually discuss something, but just to dump on it.
It's free of content, free of information, and is useful only for sloganeering.
Pure emotional shit-stirring agitprop is what it is. As such, it shouldn't really have any place where a serious discussion can take place.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)exist at all costs so that they can also pretend to be human beings rather than cowardly parasites that must hurt and steal from those too weak to defend themselves in order to exist.
Think of it as the flip-side to that other great conservative institution, the Cadillac Welfare queen.
Understanding the difference between what exists and what is completely made up seems to be where you guys get crossed up.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)MineralMan
(151,269 posts)People eat road kill, too, in order to economize. People dig through dumpsters to economize. So, I have no doubt that people have eaten catfood, too.
However, the meme would have it that all those old people on Social Security will be reduced to that level due to the Obama Administration's goal of slashing their Social Security payments. That's a meme. It's not a reality, but it serves the needs of some to spread the meme.
You might disagree with me. I'm on Social Security. My parents are on Social Security. My wife's mother is on Social Security. All economize all the time, in many ways. Catfood is one of the things they economize on, too. But they buy it for their pet cats, not to eat for themselves.
I buy catfood. I have two cats. I'll continue to do so. For my own table, though, I buy other things. Even when money is tight. Then, I eat more pasta, legumes, and other economical foods. When I'm flush, I eat different foods.
Memes are not reality. They are memes. Agitprop.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)The map is not and never will be the territory, you are just objecting because this map makes the lay of the land a little too clear in this case.
MineralMan
(151,269 posts)The minute you attempt to tell me or others what I'm thinking is the minute that you are incorrect.
Better to tell people what you are thinking. I can handle telling people what I am thinking just fine, thanks.
appleannie1
(5,457 posts)MineralMan
(151,269 posts)the equivalent amount of catfood pretty much everywhere. If you buy what's on sale, you can almost always find canned tuna cheaper than any canned catfood you might consider edible.
Canned tuna's canned tuna, in the end. I wouldn't eat the catfood variety, myself, but I don't suppose it would hurt you. Most of the catfood tuna I've seen looks like floor sweepings from the tuna canning line to me. Edible, but not desirable, unless you're a kitty.
appleannie1
(5,457 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)Full credit to be given.
MineralMan
(151,269 posts)I almost never eat tuna at all.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)of 9Lives Seafood and Poultry Variety Pack from Amazon is only $9.01 if you subscribe for a regular mailing.
That's less than $0.38 a serving.
Could it be that you are limiting your purchasing decisions to only cat food that is packaged in the U.S.?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,533 posts)Each can weighs 5.5 oz. According to most cat food feeding instructions, an average-sized cat should be fed one can per day (about 160 calories per can). A cat typically weighs about 10 lbs. But how much canned cat food would a 150+ lb. human need? If there are 160 calories in one can of cat food, you would have to eat at least 10 cans per day to maintain your weight. That's $3.80 (still pretty cheap), but that 24-pack would last you only 2-1/2 days.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)I wonder if smaller belts cost less.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)and apply it to our SS cuts.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)A 14.2-Pound Meow Mix of Indoor Formula Dry Cat Food is only $11.29 with a subscription from Amazon. It contains Brewers Rice and Soybean oil along with other ingredients. Comparisons would have to be made to find the mix with the greatest amount of rice and beans.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Sometimes people even pay you!
arikara
(5,562 posts)about seniors who were eating cat food because they couldn't afford any other meat. Say their pension is $900 for the month. This has to pay for housing, utilities, transportation, food and more. A can of human grade tuna is possibly $2.49 or more and a tin of cat food tuna is $.59... one tin vs 5 tins for the same price.
Its unfortunately not sensationalism. I agree with the rice and beans too, but in our culture meat-like products are the preferred staple and thats what most people think they need for protein.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)A six pack of Raman noodles is like $1.20
8 hot dogs are a dollar...The meme is actually pretty stupid. You would have to pay more to live on pet food pound for pound than other "human" options
You didn't see a bunch of sick old ladies showing up at the hospital with a can of Fancy Feast during the 2007 pet food contamination episode did you?
arikara
(5,562 posts)and for another, ramen noodles are not protein, nor do they have any food value either. Hot dogs are pink slime and its debatable as to whether they are any better for a person than cat food.
All I'm saying is that it used to be on the news once in awhile that seniors were resorting to eating cat food. And it's actually a pretty good meme if politicians are talking cutting social security because that's something that should never ever be done.
Peace, it's just my opinion...
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)We are spending more to feed our cats and dogs than we are to feed people. Another aspect you seem to have overlooked in your zeal to discount or excuse the inhumanity you support is the fact that rice and beans requires some preparation which can be a bit of a challenge when the power's been cut off.
This constant effort to excuse the inexcusable is what has become tiresome.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)to eat, and have to resort to sensationalist descriptors such as "cat food."
I've actually worked with poor old people. Have you?
Thug is a great handle for you. Pretending as if you really care about the poor and elderly any more than I do.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)And I think the cat food meme is entirely apt and completely on point.
2naSalit
(102,793 posts)That being where the original "meme" came from. Back when this became the standard criticism for the soc. sec. issue was that back when - I think it was Reagan - was president, there were waaaay too many seniors who did not get enough in benefits to eat human grade food and cat/dog food was much less expensive than it is today and there were too many people eating it because it was so much significantly less expensive. So historically it is a "meme" that was far too real and correct. I remember the situation too well as I knew of several senior in a small area who were buying and eating cat food, it was of higher quality than it is today as well. The concept of needing meat for protein is also correct because there was a large population who deemed beans and rice dishes as something that was eaten by the poorest of the poor and demonized ethnic groups so it was a psychological thing too, cat food was better than being reduced to beans and rice. And people were less informed about nutrition then too.
So the cat food thing is relevant... and it fits with Alan Simpson too. He may have charisma but he's also a devout propagandist.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)to all of us union members. As for thuggish behavior, I can think of anything much more thuggish than denying the most basic necessities to a segment of the population and then insulting them, followed up by further denying their plight because it is inconvenient to a narrative you believe matters more than poverty.
With Democrats like your cohort, who needs republicans?
packman
(16,296 posts)My cat will only eats 9 Lives chicken, anything else-even if it's 9 Lives- and he leaves upchuck all over the place. Tried salmon, tuna, gravy this and gravy that, but he knows what he wants and I better damn well give it to him , the little asshole.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)He may not be trying to punish you. Cats are very good at getting rid of, i.e. puking, out anything which doesn't agree with them. 9-Lives is stuffed with flavorings and grains which cats do not need and actually is rather harmful. If you get off the big brands and try grain free, or better yet, switch him over to a raw diet (more work, saves $$) you will likely find he can tolerate many proteins. And contrary to popular belief, many cats are allergic to fish and cans of tuna are also not good for them. But any money you think you may be saving for the 9Lives will come back in vet bills later for sure. Just passing on some experience.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)He couldn't fool the cat by placing a different brand in an old can which the cat liked.
It might be amusing to take a look.
taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)A little context would go a long way here...
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)steak. Those who are looking forward to eating cat food, or who have elderly neighbors who may be considering it, a few tips might help.
You are not opposed to more knowledge, are you?
Autumn
(48,962 posts)JUST KIDDING
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)Apparently, there are Democrats that think even cat food is too good for poor old people, so how far behind can "Secret Roadkill Spice Tips for the Budget Conscious" be?
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)
MineralMan
(151,269 posts)
A friend of mine gave me a tin of it as a joke. I tasted it. It's actually a pretty good rub for meat. So, when my wife and I had my friend and his wife over for dinner, I grilled some pork chops, pre-rubbed with that stuff. My friend liked the chops, and complimented me. That's when I took out the tin and said, "Well, I used this. Thanks!"
We all rolled on the floor, and we hadn't even smoked any.
packman
(16,296 posts)From my days as a Graphic Designer, something I made up for my Redneck clients in the flea market.
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Cleita
(75,480 posts)It was fine.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)neighbor's lemon tree.
MADem
(135,425 posts)from there.....they're probably only half-squeezed, most of them....
indepat
(20,899 posts)entitlement benefits while largely ignoring a regressive, patently unfair tax code which gives preferential treatment to large corporations and the types of income which mostly inure to the wealthy. A sham, a travesty, a pissing on most Americans, all to maintain the status quo. That's just my opinion and just might not "see the big picture."
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)It is one that is commonly overlooked by the MSM and many politicians.
Before Reagan came into office, employment taxes (Social Security taxes, Self-Employment taxes) were relatively low. A self-employed person with net earnings of about $50,000 could pay as little as $270 in self-employment taxes. Employees were also taxed at a relatively low percentage of their salaries and wages.
With Reagan, employment taxes were increased dramatically. Then he and his Administration borrowed heavily from the Social Security trust fund to finance his runaway military spending with no intention of paying it back. It was a stealth tax, a regressive one from which this country has never recovered. Quite frankly, it's unlikely that this country ever will.
indepat
(20,899 posts)also a major architect of the housing bubble and near calamitous financial meltdown in 2008? I remember Dave Winfield having signed a 7-figure baseball contract which required him to send 25% of his marginal dollars to Uncle Sam. Most Americans probably don't remember that the gipper's/Greenspam's highest marginal rate of 25% commenced at a taxable income of less than $20,000 for a single taxpayer. Thus, a taxpayer was subject to the same rate Dave Winfield was subject to on every marginal dollar long before a comfortable standard of living had been reached: that taxpayer was also subject to a 7.3% payroll tax on every dollar earned and that payroll tax was part of his taxable income, and thus, was subject to income tax, significantly increasing his effective tax rate. But the Dave Winfields of the world paid payroll taxes on only a minuscule/small portion of their income while that poor lower-income schmuck was saddled with sending Uncle Sam effectively 35% of each marginal dollar earned. This financial sodomizing of lower income people while the uber-wealthy and large corporations were gorging themselves at the public teat, has largely continued and is, imo, tantamount to a monstrous malfeasance of office by succeeding Congresses and administrations, causing incalculable devastation to the very fabric of our society.
2naSalit
(102,793 posts)you city dwellers but it's a source of regular fare for a few folks I know out here in Montana/Idaho. And the meat is normally organic when you think about it. Now that it's legal to harvest here, it's been put into practice by even more folks. It's cheaper than hunting and one elk or deer can feed a lot of people or last a while in the freezer. Butchering is nasty work but for those who hunt anyway, it's easier and doesn't require all that stalking and buying a tag and then fetching it out of the wild... as long as it's fresh enough to use.
Otherwise, the animal is usually hauled off to some dumpster station because the F&G folks don't want bears and wolves and other carnivores getting hit on the side of the road while they feast on the free food.
It's a matter of perspective I guess. I'm not a meat eater these days but I don't condemn those who would prefer road kill to cat food. I have eaten plenty of road kill when I did eat meat, better than store bought. You just have to know how to cook and have something to cook on, a campfire will do in a pinch.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Go ahead and feed it to your cat,
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...and then eat the cat.
Tastes a lot like Possum.
I have some good recipes.
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After reading the above post,
our mouser MonkeyButt expressed his opposition.
He wants us to eat the dog.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)The poverty of older women was a huge issue in the 1970s -- at that time they were the single largest demographic living in poverty, because of the increase in divorce rates, because they often had not worked outside the home and they did not have any legal claim on a husband's or ex-husband's pension or social security benefits. They were left with nearly nothing. The Older Womens League was the main organization fighting this at this time, and then the Gray Panthers. But it was a common understanding then that impoverished elderly women were surviving on the meagerest of foodstuffs.
Regarding the Chained CPI in Obama's 2014 budget proposal, "This proposal is a stealth attack on the economic security of older women," Joan Entmacher of National Womens Law Center in Washington said in a statement. "That is a shameful way to solve our nations deficit problem."
Older women are already more economically vulnerable than older men they often spend fewer years in the workforce because they take care children, the elderly and spouses and these cuts would leave many of them unable to meet basic needs, Entmacher said.
For example, for a woman who gets a benefit of $1,100 at age 65 the median monthly benefit of all single women 65 and older replacing the current COLA with the chained CPI would mean $56 less per month and $672 less per year at age 80, the report said.
"That may not sound like a big cut to some members of Congress but it translates to a loss of more than a weeks worth of food per month or 13 weeks of food in a year," Entmacher said in a statement. "At age 90, that would mean $87 less per month and more than $1,000 less that year so a woman with an initial benefit of $1,100 a month will lose more than $6,300 by age 80 and more than $15,000 by age 90."
Frankly, in the "good ol days" before Social Security, it was actually worse than cat food.
From Time magazine's eulogy to Dr. Francis Townsend who died in 1960:
Townsend led a crusade to secure generous middle-class worthy pensions for all that is credited for influencing the shape and growing generosity of Social Security (for example though passed in 1935, it was not supposed to pay pension benefits until 1942, but this was sped up to 1940 in 1939 partly due to the continuing popularity of the "Townsend plan"
I bring this up because there is a refrain from some quarters that calling the deficit commission the "Catfood Commission" is so very unfair and mean and unserious. The critics are right, it is inaccurate; we should be calling it the "Garbage Commission."
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)I hope that you'll consider adding an OP or two.
Here's a photo from a post earlier this year:

http://renegadechicks.com/the-wage-gap-continues-as-more-elderly-women-live-in-poverty-than-men/
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)and will be including a little something about Townsend. I consider him the father of SS. The picture of the woman is heartbreaking. I'm reminded of the old saying "the more things change, the more they remain the same."
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)nt