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beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)Amok with GOP
alp227
(33,139 posts)Where is the scientific evidence that GMOs are harmful? Why is that unproven junk science being mixed in with legit science Republicans supposedly oppose?
geardaddy
(25,392 posts)Veilex
(1,555 posts)Where is the scientific evidence that GMOs are helpful? I can point to numerous sources indicating GMOs have not gone under sufficient scrutiny to be quantified as safe for human consumption... as well as studies that show that claimed benefits are substantially overinflated (point of example: the notion that golden rice would save lives and prevent macular degeneration).
I am not taking the stance that GMOs are harmfull... I'm taking the stance that they provide little to no advantage over traditional methods of farming, to include hybridization.
I see GMOs are an artificial method to induce extra costs into the food supply, when we already have more than enough food to feed the entire world, were food supplies not carefully manipulated.
longship
(40,416 posts)BTW, I think Monsanto is a criminal enterprise. But GMO foods are not by themselves bad. They need regulation and oversight, however.
That's my personal position.
I'm not against GMOs. I think the concept has merit and much potential. However, I also think the purported claims are vastly over-inflated at present.
The major contributors (or at least the most visible ones) to GMO science are by and large corrupt as hell, which puts a heavily negative face on the topic. Take Dow Chemical, Monsanto, Conagra and a few other big names out of the picture, along with their corrupt business practices, and people will start to consider the validity of the science behind GMOs.
Great link BTW.
Veilex
(1,555 posts)The whole problem with golden rice (and similar rice based solutions) is that it fails to address the real problem with cultures suffering from vitamin A deficiency and threatens to cause new problems.
Cultures who are facing issues such as Macular degeneration due to low levels of vitamin A can be dramatically helped by simply expanding their diet to include vegetables such as carrots. Golden rice is an inefficient and expensive reinvention of the wheel. It provides less than 10% of the needed vitamin content and costs more than generic rice. That qualifies as a lose lose to those cultures... they get to pay more to the likes of Monsanto and ConAgra while still losing their eye sight.
http://www.grain.org/article/entries/10-grains-of-delusion-golden-rice-seen-from-the-ground
I'm a big believer in: The simplest solutions are often the best.
I think that is particularly applicable here.
longship
(40,416 posts)But the problem is really that in very poor areas of the world they may not be able to grow, for instance carrots, or whatever source of Vitamin A one may select. But rice is cheap and the golden rice solves the problem nicely.
One argument I've heard against GMO foods is one we ought to consider seriously is that if we move to GMO there may be a move to a monoculture where we would be setting ourselves up for a collapse if something like climate change makes it impossible to grow the single crop a society is dependent on.
That's why efforts like seed banks are crucial for preserving crop diversity for the future.
But in general, I support GMO efforts as long as checks are in place. And Monsanto is still a criminal enterprise.
watoos
(7,142 posts)just to label GMO foods. Millions are being spent to fight the labeling. It just isn't the GMO foods which you can eat if you like, I'm staying away from them, it's the Round Up that's sprayed on GMO foods also. I think the science on GMO's and Round UP is not junk.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)We frequently try out things well before we know they are safe and people just want to decide whether to be in the test or control group. A perfectly valid request.
At least make it easy for me to know what I'm buying.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)even though many RW people like the Rmoneys are known to eat only organic or the Whole FoodsCEO
because GMOs are fine for the masses just not the elite
geardaddy
(25,392 posts)
rock
(13,218 posts)And it does sorta sound like something they'd like.
AAO
(3,300 posts)
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)Heather MC
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Gary 50
(479 posts)Eating children is just fine. Starving children is acceptable. But don't you dare touch a fetus! Republican values....
Nellyjpkrr
(2 posts)GMO all over
madashelltoo
(1,826 posts)Yup! That's right!:
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)
QuestForSense
(653 posts)You'll go far.
blue14u
(575 posts)QuestForSense!!!
pansypoo53219
(22,902 posts)a stipend so they can thrive. for the 47% of course.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)
lastlib
(27,588 posts)(Agenda 21, black helicopters, secret road signs to FEMA concentration camps, Kenyan Sharia law.............)
arthritisR_US
(7,795 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)Ted Cruz wants a Theocracy and he is one of the chosen Dominionists.
Grateful for Hope
(39,320 posts)So true.
K&R
yurbud
(39,405 posts)yurbud
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Sedona
(3,859 posts)I just posted this on my 18 year old daughter's Facebook wall where all her friends will see it.
Sedona
(3,859 posts) blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Basically, the Republican Party despises all of the 20th Century.
salimbag
(173 posts)being president while black.
madokie
(51,076 posts)Three wedge issues that brings the republiCON voters out in droves. Take those three issues away and you wouldn't find a republiCON in office anywhere. imo
LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)continue to convince people to vote against their own interests by labeling themselves "pro life" or "pro second amendment" they'll continue to garner support. My husband's 92 year old aunt, a widow subsisting on SS, is consumed with the abortion issue and votes R only because of it. It's insanity.