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The estranged wife of George Zimmerman says he nailed a bullet-filled target to the wall of her home as a "subliminal message."
Shellie Zimmerman, 26, filed for divorce in September, less than two months after George Zimmerman was found not guilty of second-degree murder after he shot and killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in 2012.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31/george-zimmerman-target-bullet-wife-shelli_n_4181669.html
It is just a matter of time before he murders again.
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EOTE
(13,409 posts)leftyohiolib
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Bernardo de La Paz
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onehandle
(51,122 posts)
Myrina
(12,296 posts)Mental instability among them. And he has a firearm license, why, exactly?
winterpark
(168 posts)We and the asswad media are giving him exactly what he wants. Notoriety as a murderer of an unarmed black kid who got away with it and will again. Stop with all the zimmerman bullshit. Who cares about him or his effed up wife? Stop! Please!
Isoldeblue
(1,135 posts)Because I'm looking forward to the day when that prick get's his just due. Justice has not come for Trayvon or his family - yet.
I know he craves attention. But to me, that is a small price to pay and I figure, whatever.... What goes around, comes around. That's what matters.
Hearing about him doing whacked out crap like this, just makes me realize it won't be very much longer, til that day arrives....
johnlucas
(1,250 posts)Keep telling the stories.
It shows a sequence of behaviors.
This murderer will have his comeuppance right here on Earth.
And he's so dumb he'll speed up the process.
Good.
That jury will have to live with the decision of letting this murderer walk for the ends of their lives.
I hope it keeps them from being able to sleep at night.
John Lucas
demigoddess
(6,675 posts)I think the cops that keep pulling him over are letting us know where he is and that he is armed so we can avoid him, and avoid getting shot by him. Better that than letting him blend into the woodwork while he is stalking his next victim.
mikeysnot
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IkeRepublican
(406 posts)There's something you don't see everyday.
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)there's no actual evidence that he did, it's a he said, she said at this point.
I hope that there is solid evidence that he actually did this.
arthritisR_US
(7,810 posts)
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)Is there actual evidence, other than her saying he did it, of him doing this?
I said I tend to believe he did, judging from his past behavior, but I would like to have him charged, but that won't happen without evidence that he actually did so.
arthritisR_US
(7,810 posts)Mark Smithelio
(5 posts)But hey..."report" sounds like a believable word in a headline, so Shellie is right!
arthritisR_US
(7,810 posts) 
Tommy_Carcetti
(44,499 posts)Welcome to DU.
uppityperson
(116,020 posts)killing Trayvon Martin? Was it self defense?
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)Fuck no, it was at the very least Manslaughter.
Zim was extremely lucky that he got the equivalent of the keystone kops for prosecutors.
uppityperson
(116,020 posts)Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)Sorry about that, just wanted people to know that I'm no zim defender.
uppityperson
(116,020 posts)I wanted to see what they thought as they seemed to indicate he was believable and I don't want to jump to conclusions.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)Not the brightest bulb, huh?
gopiscrap
(24,734 posts)liberal from boston
(856 posts)GZ's wife did not press charges that he had a gun & threatened her & her father because the police warned that she was on probation & she would go to jail. GZ's lawyer who came on the scene admitted that he did in fact have a gun. Zimmerman also lied under oath about his passport & was ordered back to prison. IMHO Zimmerman is walking time bomb.
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)Wasn't she just recently convicted of perjury?
They both have credibility issues, him moreso than her.
Tommy_Carcetti
(44,499 posts)She was convicted of perjury because of him. He had her lie for her.
Without him, there would be no perjury issue.
Get it?
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)a choice she conciously made.
Tommy_Carcetti
(44,499 posts)....would the onus of credibility ultimately rest on his shoulders?
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)but she made the choice to do so and now is paying for it.
Tommy_Carcetti
(44,499 posts)Who are you more willing to believe? The person who lied at the request of the other person, or the person who actually instructed the first person to lie?
Especially considering that we now have videotape of George's, um, temper.
NM_Birder
(1,591 posts)The person who got away with killing another person.
-or-
the person who is OK with lying at the request of said killer ?
I'm not convinced "credibility" is anything either deserve. Interesting defense logic,....."Don't fault me for my actions, because he told me to do it".
Tommy_Carcetti
(44,499 posts)NM_Birder
(1,591 posts)This would not be the first time she falsified accusations since GZ killed Trayvon.
Before you take my comments as a defense of GZ,....GZ killed Travon unjustifiably, no question and no argument from me, but gifting credibility to a liar who has lied on several occasions is unwise,....no matter what the intended goal.
Tommy_Carcetti
(44,499 posts)NM_Birder
(1,591 posts)She accused GZ of pulling a gun on her father ? Then recanted and said she never saw a gun.
To you that may seem like just a "detail", but to people who pay attention to facts, we call that a false accusation...or "
lie".
Tommy_Carcetti
(44,499 posts)...she did, to what I recollect, claim that he threatened him with a gun. From what I recall, it was a clarification, not a recantation.
She knew he was armed. His lawyer said he was armed. And if you bother to watch the surveillance tape, you can see at one point George appearing to gesture at his waist where his gun would be. Thus clearly giving her story credibility.
NM_Birder
(1,591 posts)Your entire post is speculation, there is no "clearly" about anything you said. She knew he was armed ?...prove it.
"appearing to gesture at his waist where his gun would be. Thus clearly giving her story credibility""....that is the hard point data a defense layer makes origami out of and sends to you as a Christmas gift.
warning ..this is speculation for example sake,...please don't take this literally.
My client had bad gas, and rubbed his stomach is an attempt to diffuse bad and embarrassing gas, now...MRS EX GZ,....tell me again where you were "clearly" threatened with a gun ?
Tommy_Carcetti
(44,499 posts)The guy went around touring gun factories and grinning for pictures.
He's unabashedly armed.
Even if he wasn't armed, the fact that he's George Zimmerman and he's gesturing towards his waste where he carries his gun means something.
Don't play stupid.
NM_Birder
(1,591 posts)I'm not even a lawyer and you just proved my point, Merry Christmas.
2nd point, If his lawyer admitted he was carrying a gun, again why did she drop that charge ? you know why.
Don't take it personal, your argument is based purely on emotion and personal belief, understandable. But like I said, only in the court of international chat rooms.
I give the highly emotional, yet half assed organized argument the prosecution gave which set an obviously unjustified killer free as my example. ANY gun related charge conviction would have had GZ in prison for minimum of 25 years, instead of prosecuting him on manslaughter, (which was a slam dunk) they went for the public outcry of a "racial hate crime"......and poof.......couldn't prove the charge,...Georgie Boy walks away.
Tommy_Carcetti
(44,499 posts)She declined to press charges.
Why? I don't know.
But whatever the circumstances were, it doesn't support your position that she lied about the incident. She never claimed he pulled the weapon. She said he threatened them with it, even though he never brandished it.
You made the whole "She claimed he pulled a weapon and then retracted that claim" thing up, Mr. Not Lawyer.
Regarding the prior trial, Zimmerman was charged with manslaughter as a lesser included offense. And there was no hate crime charge either.
I won't take anything you say personally, since you appear to have an inability to grasp the correct facts of the situation.
NM_Birder
(1,591 posts)She decided not to press charges of him threating her with a gun. Must not have felt threatened.
What is your rationale for her not pressing charges ?
NM_Birder
(1,591 posts)Is it "possible" that someone , ....
say someone who has a point to prove,..... his ex-wife for example, ...who has already shown no hesitation to embellish and/or LIE in an active pursuit of harassing GZ,....COULD have placed this bullet riddled target at the house in an attempt to further GZ's legal troubles ? If you see a "possibility" of that, you just acquitted GZ of this accusation, and at the same time possibly brought enough speculation to entangle Mrs Ex GZ in a harassment suit.
Using the lies of a known liar to throw sloppy accusations at anybody, even the likes of GZ is bad, no matter how bad some people may want it to be good.
Tommy_Carcetti
(44,499 posts)You said she claimed he pulled a gun on her dad, and then recanted.
Show me where she said she pulled a gun on her dad, and I'll give you full props.
You do understand, however, that one need not pull a gun in order to threaten one with a gun. Especially if you just so happen to be the world's most notorious CCW permit holder.
NM_Birder
(1,591 posts)that GZ had a gun ?
My opinion, ....her lawyer told her false accusations don't hold up in court as well as they do in the international court of online chat rooms.
He could be Jack the Ripper shopping for cutlery, what he was accused of, and convicted of are two different things.
Tommy_Carcetti
(44,499 posts)She never claimed he pulled or brandished the weapon. She claimed he threatened her father with it. She later admitted she never actually saw the gun, but it doesn't mean he didn't threaten its use (which the video appears to support).
Understand?
NM_Birder
(1,591 posts)There is no way you could have read the article and still maintain this level of ignorance regarding the article, without an agenda.
She obviously did not feel threatened ? You tell me why she "decided not to press charges", dazzle me with my misinterpretation of "decided not to press charges".
she was not in fact threatened with a gun...hence her decision "not to press charges".
In order to be convicted of threating someone with a gun, you do in fact have to be charged and convicted of threating someone with a gun.
Tommy_Carcetti
(44,499 posts)...I don't know why she didn't press charges. I wasn't privy to that conversation.
However, it's beside the point. You falsely claimed that she alleged Zimmerman pulled a gun and then retracted that claim. That was never the case, and you can't support that argument.
A threat in fact goes beyond whether or not criminal charges were ultimately requested. There have been many times--most notably in domestic violence situations--where a person has threatened another and the victim of that threat has declined to press charges. Sometimes out of fear of repercussions.
Unless you mean to tell me that there's never been a situation where someone has threatened another person and that person hasn't sought to press charges.
And by the way, I believe the investigation is still ongoing pending a forensic evaluation of the Ipad that was smashed in the incident. George Zimmerman could still be charged in the incident, regardless whether Shelli wanted to press charges or not.
Your original premise--that Shelli was inherently untrustworthy and had a repeated history of making false statements--was incorrect. There was that one instance of her lying on George's own behalf. And that was it.
NM_Birder
(1,591 posts)A forensic evaluation of the I-pad that was smashed ? -and- GZ could still be charged in the incident, regardless whether Shelli wanted to press charges or not ? You watch a lot of TV don't you.
She claimed her dad was also threatened, AND punched in the nose.......he is not pressing charges either. I like the other poster who says she claimed in an interview, that the police officer advised her not to press charges because she was on probation and might go to prison. I'm waiting for her to claim he changed her into a newt........glad she got better.
George killed Travon, he did it unjustifiably and absolutely unnecessarily- the prosecution screwed it up and George is free, I accept that as fact.
All this baloney - up to and including a "forensic evaluation of the I-pad that was smashed" is just that - baloney. These are two unstable liars, in a nasty divorce in view of a the public - desperate to convict him because the prosecution hosed it up.
Tommy_Carcetti
(44,499 posts)Which, apparently, you do not.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/10/justice/florida-zimmerman/
CNN) -- An iPad used to shoot video of a confrontation that allegedly erupted Monday between George Zimmerman and his estranged wife, Shellie, and her father might prove key in determining whether charges will be filed, police said Tuesday in Lake Mary, Florida.
"Unfortunately, the iPad is in several pieces," police spokesman Zach Hudson told reporters about the device, which he said George Zimmerman had damaged.
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Police have sent the pieces of the iPad for analysis, Hudson said. "We want to get all the information, the footage, off it."
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Under Florida law, it is up to police to decide whether to press charges for domestic battery.
liberal from boston
(856 posts)Zimmerman's wife gave an interview that the police responding to her 911 call advised her not to press charges as she was on probation & could possibly face prison. Zimmerman not only threatened her but also her father. Zimmerman's lawyer confirmed that GZ had a gun hidden under his shirt.
strategery blunder
(4,225 posts)She knew he had killed an unarmed kid. She could have easily, reasonably feared she was next if she didn't cooperate...with him.
Just putting that possibility out there.
NM_Birder
(1,591 posts)
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Women living with sick partners have their own issues. Usually involving very low self esteem and weak self-identity.
The rship dynamic is all about fear and mutual manipulation, generally.
You're demanding a level of agency from her that she probably doesn't possess.
arthritisR_US
(7,810 posts)Sorry tag team, I don't buy it.
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)that's your choice.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)A smarter person (than me or what I just said in the title) in her situation would photo the target and then call the police so that it becomes part of the record. It is unlikely to be the first or last harassment / threat / statement.
Spirochete
(5,264 posts)he has any known violent tendencies or anything...
Stellar
(5,644 posts)Do you know that he was told *NOT* to pursue that kid. Does anybody understand ENGLISH.
If he had done what the police had told him Trayvon would still be alive. Zimmerman should have walked away RIGHT then. and there would be no 'he said-she said' drama.
brett_jv
(1,245 posts)your argument against that creep.
The fact is, he was NOT 'told not to pursue the kid'. That's simply not true. It's on tape, we've all heard it.
The 911 dispatcher (a person with 0 legal authority), when Zimmerman mentioned that he intended to follow TM, said to him "We don't need you to do that". This was simply CYA on the part of the dispatcher, who needed, according to their own 'internal protocol', to make it clear that he was issuing no such 'instruction' to Zimmerman.
The people who answer 911 calls are not permitted to give people instructions like 'follow' or 'not to follow' some suspicious person. They have no authority whatsoever, but they have legal liabilities.
There was simply a clarification that he was NOT BEING ASKED to follow TM. That's different than an order NOT to follow.
When you make the claim that GZ was 'told not to follow' (some people even like to embellish it further with 'by the police', which is even more totally untrue) Martin, you undermine the credibility of your whole argument by showing you're not bound by the facts.
JMHO, fwiw 
Stellar
(5,644 posts)so far that I heard with that argument. And of course I will agree to disagree with you.
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)So GZ may not have followed TM any further after that point. It appears that TM came back for GZ during the several minute gap in time between GZ talking to the operator and TM's apparent assault against GZ. That's what the evidence indicates.
Stellar
(5,644 posts)I'm done with it.
Ohio Joe
(21,898 posts)After a while the 'no actual evidence' meme grows weary. He is a murderer and all indications are that he will murder again... The only real questions left are who and when.
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)arthritisR_US
(7,810 posts)Ohio Joe
(21,898 posts)It is interesting when his defenders jump straight to how he could beat it in court.
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)
If he tacked that bullet riddled target to her house, he should be arrested for threatening or intimidation.
stranger81
(2,345 posts)
Problem is, whatever evidence is brought against him, this asshole has legions of supporters who will deny it has any probative value. Even here on DU.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Zimmerman is worse than a creep. He's an angry violent creep.
When dealing with angry violent creeps it is important to establish a trail of evidence: photos and preserved items. Get the police involved every time there is a threat. After a few threats get a restraining order.
TeamPooka
(25,577 posts)Help us hate him or stfu. 
Ian_rd
(2,124 posts)Just because there's a legitimate consensus that he got away with manslaughter or worse doesn't automatically make him guilty of anything a proven liar says about him. Unless of course, there's proof.
Maybe the 2008 financial collapse is also his fault.
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)stranger81
(2,345 posts)Leave Georgie alone!!
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)I remember a time when the defendant was given the benefit of the doubt.
Guess that's another thing about our system that's out the door.
stranger81
(2,345 posts)Dude isn't being charged with anything, and never will be.
Free pass for Georgie.
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)despite the fact that the prosecution totally lacked the evidence to find GZ guilty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norm_Wolfinger
Wolfinger was criticized for making the decision that there was insufficient evidence for a conviction of George Zimmerman on the charge of manslaughter. Wolfinger has expressed surprise at the national spotlight and the reaction to his decision. Zimmerman was found not guilty after being tried by another prosecutor in a state court.
But the ignorant public and media bought the story as presented by Trayvon Martin's team, so Rick Scott bowed to public pressure and made sure there was a trial:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Florida_v._George_Zimmerman
On March 22, 2012, Florida Governor Rick Scott announced his appointment of Angela Corey as the Special Prosecutor in the Martin investigation.
Almost every expert opinion I saw on the local Orlando stations said they lacked the evidence to find GZ guilty, and many said the case should have never gone to trial. They were clearly right.
At first I partially bought into the story, even stating on DU that I thought GZ should be found guilty of manslaughter. But in the trial it became very clear that a conviction wasn't justified.
stranger81
(2,345 posts)[n/t]
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)Last edited Fri Nov 1, 2013, 03:41 PM - Edit history (1)
I know stranger81 can't tolerate anyone that disagrees with him/her on this subject, but fortunately many people still believe in innocent until proven guilty. Even people that many of us may not like have that right.
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)
unblock
(56,198 posts)in the sense of "under the border".
Arkana
(24,347 posts)I guess when he kills a white kid they'll finally throw him in the slammer.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)for at least her married life. The courts and women's shelters see it all the time. Mostly they can't help much, either.
Of course they lie, he'll get them later if they don't as he always has and does. The self-righteousness of "why didn't she just leave" et al...if one must explain the futile nature of that advice/judgment, then there is no explanation.
Few make it out of the cycle, men or women, especially with children, as Courts are loathe to rule in domestic cases and there is usually a financial problem, as well. One who goes on the run, needs quite a bit of money and the authorities quickly find them and return them anyway.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Dr. Strange
(26,058 posts)If he really did it, then press charges. Stop letting him off the hook!
beerandjesus
(1,301 posts)I'm perfectly confident that Zimmerman will be in prison sooner or later, and I'm equally confident that a new picture of Cruz's fleshy mug will make me as sick as the previous 50 did.
Not to bitch you out for posting a news story, Ohio Joe. I just don't understand why reporters are so fascinated by this guy.
lastlib
(28,275 posts)One murder is one too many!
Aerows
(39,961 posts)to say the least. He's a walking shotgun blast at innocent people.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)All the clothes out in the yard, with holes, or both is quite common, for instance, and the e-mails frequently regrettable. Although attorneys sometimes enjoy them.
So people do odd things like this?
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1502636.1383232091!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/article-zimmerman-1031.jpg
Oh and BTW: A murderer left this on the wall of his ex-wife.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Among other work as a lawyer, I spent 6 + years conducting hearings at the state mental hospital re: cases of those found guilty but for mental disease or defect. Child killers, torture murderers, people whose voices directed them to kill their parents or hit strangers over the head with bottles.
I also worked a job that involved deposing serial killers and listening to child molesters explaining how that that 5 year old wanted to suck their dick, that 13 year old virgin wanted to be tied up and raped, how they had to handcuff their wife and beat just to get her to listen. A case where a mother stuck a knitting needle up her one year old's penis. Men who killed their women and left them bleeding out on the living room floor with the 2 year old watching. Men who burned their women, broke out their teeth to make them less attractive, vaginal mutilators. A guy who used a welding torch on his child as a disciplinary device.
Threats aren't good, but they are amazingly common.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)AAO
(3,300 posts)
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)I've been divorced twice, both times nothing worse than a swear word muttered under the breath of my ex-husbands or myself. I've had friends go through horrific divorces, and aside from a lot of tears and over-the-top monetary settlements presented by both side's attorneys as opening salvos, no one ever did anything remotely violent or intimidating. Honorable people remain honorable no matter what.
The2ndWheel
(7,947 posts)If there's proof he put it there with a clearly threatening intent, then fine, it's a story. If it's just a picture of the target, and her saying he did it, that's really not a story. That target could be 5 years old. She could've put it there. They might not even be "bullet" holes.
Both of these people need to go away. Doesn't matter where. Enough already.
DinahMoeHum
(23,607 posts)n/t
Southside
(338 posts)She sounds naive and scared. I am all for stringent gun control, but a big part of me wants Shellie to have protection.
With the way things are going for Zimmerman, he can probably hurt Shellie and get away with that as well. When does this monster get what he is looking for?
malaise
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malaise
(296,118 posts)but those young African men were also murdered.
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D23MIURG23
(3,138 posts)It seems like good grounds for a restraining order if nothing else...
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)anyone taking a chance with Zimmerman. At the slightest sign of anger, the person on the other side is going to smoke Zimmerman. Zimmerman has a reputation now that give him no margin of error.
pacalo
(24,857 posts)“Did George feel so threatened by Shellie talking to the media about her marriage to George?” the source questioned.
“Did he feel threatened that she didn’t stick to the playbook of refusing to talk after Trayvon? Or was this George’s way of telling Shellie to stick to the omertà? Or was it something more serious?
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/10/george-zimmerman-photo-marksman-target-for-estranged-wife-shellie-inside-home-divorce-dispute/
stranger81
(2,345 posts)to do whatever he wants, whenever he wants, to whomever he wants . . . . no rational questions asked?
He gets to kill without consequence.
He gets to threaten without consequence.
He gets to assault elderly men without consequence.
And if anyone tries to hold him accountable for anything, no matter how egregious, the blockheads will be out in droves protecting his "right" to maim, kill, and threaten. Even right here on this board.
Incitatus
(5,317 posts)I do believe George is a ticking time bomb and it is only a matter of time before something bad happens. I do not doubt that he would do something like that, but a little more evidence would be nice.
Rebellious Republican
(5,029 posts)There is no argument for defense of either one. Assumptions are the only thing that anyone of us can make at this point. Regardless of your own personal emotions on the topic. Got a few seconds, have a nice read. All we can really do is sit back and wait. 
http://depressiond.com/pathological-liar/
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)'pathological liars', and frankly, I think we can ALL safely assume that Zimmerman is a killer who will inevitably kill again. I can very comfortably defend Shellie, while defending the killer not one iota. You are simply wrong.
Rebellious Republican
(5,029 posts)I believe the discussion was about a bullet ridden photo tacked up on the side of the house and who dunnit.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)But you brought up references to their overall character and whether either are believable, and that's what I addressed.
To rephrase: In terms of character, I'll take the word of Shellie over Zimmerman 100% of the time. She may have lied in the past, but I have ZERO doubt that Zimmerman tacked up that poster. It absolutely fits his MO, to a tee.
Rebellious Republican
(5,029 posts)his ass out with her scripted testimony during the proceedings. Which calls into question any testimony that she may have given in defense of her husband during the trial. As evidenced by her easily proven perjured testimony. Now is she partially responsible for allowing a murderer to roam the streets?
Do you trust Shellie Zimmerman?
O’Connor, who is working on a book about the George Zimmerman trial, also hinted that there was evidence that was mishandled, saying that during the sensational trial, “there were so many untruths told.”
“What the jury never heard could have led to a different verdict,” she said.
http://my.firedoglake.com/mason/tag/george-zimmerman/
Its a very tangled web, do you not agree?
AAO
(3,300 posts)And dag nabbit, he's gonna get their by hook or by crook (most likely crook)!
libodem
(19,288 posts)Gotta keep them in their place. He'll get a public commodation and a medal.
LittleGirl
(8,999 posts)to catch up to him.
JimboBillyBubbaBob
(1,389 posts)...that's point blank, pun intended!
Bucky
(55,334 posts)
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)at least he's not a police officer
samsingh
(18,426 posts)Playful Piranha
(13 posts)
moriah
(8,312 posts)"Not guilty" does not mean "innocent".
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moriah
(8,312 posts)Because if someone followed me in their vehicle while I was walking home at night, and then got out of their vehicle and started chasing after me without identifying himself or saying why he was following me, I'd have felt my life was in danger.
samsingh
(18,426 posts)set to lose he panicked and screamed self-defense.
remember the bush argument about the WMD's in Iraq? I despised the saddam regime, but if they had WMD's would they not have used them against us?
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)Tired of the Zimmerman shit.
Major Nikon
(36,925 posts)
marble falls
(71,936 posts)
ReRe
(12,189 posts)... mark my word. I hope that jury of Stepford wives are still happy that they acquitted a killer.
eilen
(4,955 posts)that George Z. uses the perjury charges against his wife to discredit her to the police and to intimidate her from reporting things he does. I think she only felt confident in the complaints and report of him threatening her father and herself with a gun only because there was surveillance footage.
As his wife she most likely had some protection from testifying against him in court. At the time the entire family had circled around him in full defense mode. They were her support at a time she probably did not know how her mortgage was going to get paid. In addition there were many public agendas and organizations being fed that were offering their support. Imagine if she had accused him of being a batterer then-- I think she would have gotten threats, even if she moved and lived at her parents. Maybe there was some kind of deal that was made-- who knows. At any rate, it seems as if there is some anger management problems and George is feeling quite untouchable after the trial. Shelley should disappear where he cannot find her and have her attorney work out the legal stuff regarding the divorce. Perhaps an intermediary can hand off the kids at the sheriff's office on visitation. Imagine having to hand over your kids to George Zimmerman (and whatever gun bimbo he's screwing around with).