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demmiblue

(36,850 posts)
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:34 PM Nov 2013

Three Pages Of Rand Paul’s Book Were Plagiarized From Think Tanks

Source: Buzzfeed



An entire section of Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul’s 2013 book Government Bullies was copied wholesale from a 2003 case study by the Heritage Foundation, BuzzFeed has learned. The copied section, 1,318 words, is by far the most significant instance reported so far of Paul borrowing language from other published material.

The new cut-and-paste job follows reports by BuzzFeed, Politico, and MSNBC that Paul had plagiarized speeches either from Wikipedia or news reports. The book was published in August 2013 by Center Street, a division of Hachette Book Group.

In this case, Paul included a link to the Heritage case study in the book’s footnotes, though he made no effort to indicate that not just the source, but the words themselves, had been taken from Heritage.

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Read more: http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/entire-section-of-rand-pauls-book-copied-verbatim-from-case
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Three Pages Of Rand Paul’s Book Were Plagiarized From Think Tanks (Original Post) demmiblue Nov 2013 OP
hope that goes viral gopiscrap Nov 2013 #1
Gore said he created the internet! Cosmocat Nov 2013 #36
Just for the record, and from the two guys who created HTML hatrack Nov 2013 #38
The whole "Al Gore Invented the internet" Meme was pushed because he played such a large role in... Taitertots Nov 2013 #45
Think about how stupid the average Republican is,...they don't write the legislation... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #58
Not a chance Cosmocat Nov 2013 #71
If it was not done that way Turbineguy Nov 2013 #78
That's from Newt and his "Word List". The GOAL isn't to govern, it's to win an election. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #80
Another big lie. He was instrumental to seeing that DARPA was funded to create the web on point Nov 2013 #63
Could be a problem.... cynzke Nov 2013 #64
Okay, a book is much worse than a speech. cui bono Nov 2013 #2
It will plague him now forever. The search is on for everything he ever wrote. grantcart Nov 2013 #13
Yeah, it seems like they have found a pattern. cui bono Nov 2013 #18
No it won't Cosmocat Nov 2013 #37
If it is established that there is a pattern, repeat pattern grantcart Nov 2013 #49
That's a very good point, grantcart. nt Hekate Nov 2013 #62
maybe Cosmocat Nov 2013 #70
It didn't end Biden's career Alcibiades Nov 2013 #84
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #56
and worse than a book is legislation Enrique Nov 2013 #68
K&R Coyotl Nov 2013 #3
More like Mr. Lazy Heather MC Nov 2013 #10
Not lazy...phony! Mr Phony VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #51
He needs to pay more to get better ghost writers.. Tikki Nov 2013 #4
He should not be allowed to blame these on "ghost writers" mazzarro Nov 2013 #52
I was thinking he prob writes little himself…you are correct, he should do this himself... Tikki Nov 2013 #54
Further proof that this moran has never had... MANative Nov 2013 #5
+1 Scuba Nov 2013 #32
What a lazy weasel ladym55 Nov 2013 #6
What a fucking idiot Aldo Leopold Nov 2013 #7
Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #55
Fer embarrasin.' ..nt TeeYiYi Nov 2013 #8
Rand old buddy old pal, that kind of thing will get you flunked from class ... Hekate Nov 2013 #9
It's OK, he'll just create his own dissertation panel in a separate university hatrack Nov 2013 #39
seems like a pattern that might also show up in his schoolwork- if so, it should null his degree certainot Nov 2013 #50
Too late for that, but it sure could cause embarrassment Hekate Nov 2013 #61
I was thinking the same thing! nt ecstatic Nov 2013 #69
Everyone is going to go through adieu Nov 2013 #11
aqua budha busted nt arely staircase Nov 2013 #12
This story keeps getting bigger and bigger Major Nikon Nov 2013 #14
Aqua Buddha the cheater. Historic NY Nov 2013 #15
Rand Paul's supporters likely see this development this way: Satan knew what Rand would write, SDjack Nov 2013 #16
Spot on..... Rebellious Republican Nov 2013 #40
Well, it seems his minor son likes to be three sheets to the wind TxDemChem Nov 2013 #17
He is a real creep. Are we entirely sure he is a human? Seems japple Nov 2013 #19
I still think it's worse that his goon stomped a tiny woman into the gutter. ZRT2209 Nov 2013 #20
Rand lets the tank do the thinking Blue Owl Nov 2013 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Cronus Protagonist Nov 2013 #22
stupid is as stupid does SHRED Nov 2013 #23
Righty Media is rushing to his defense as we speak nikto Nov 2013 #24
wonder if he plagarizes diagnoses for his "patients" lol nt msongs Nov 2013 #25
I miss Gen. J.C. Christian! rdharma Nov 2013 #26
butbutbut footnotes. right? pansypoo53219 Nov 2013 #27
Yawn...I wouldn't expect anything different. SoapBox Nov 2013 #28
Even Palin used ghost writers Politicalboi Nov 2013 #29
I didn't see any, however, they might use this as a resource to "write" one: Gore1FL Nov 2013 #60
This is the second incident of plagiarism that's been reported about Paul. pacalo Nov 2013 #30
First, send this to Rachael Maddow. Second, I arthritisR_US Nov 2013 #31
Rut row deancr Nov 2013 #33
only three? surrealAmerican Nov 2013 #34
Republicon "values." As usual. Berlum Nov 2013 #35
Sounds like Rand has never had an original thought in his life. SunSeeker Nov 2013 #41
ayn rand paul the bart simpson of congress... Javaman Nov 2013 #42
Check his college coursework if plagiarism comes so easily for him he's LibGranny Nov 2013 #43
+1. jsr Nov 2013 #47
+1000 JCMach1 Nov 2013 #83
The man is a serial cheater because when he had trouble getting medical credentials Botany Nov 2013 #44
Two things about this..... Rebellious Republican Nov 2013 #46
So he's a thief, cheat, and liar CanonRay Nov 2013 #48
K & R Scurrilous Nov 2013 #53
Didn't Ayn Rand have a problem with "takers" leeching off the work and creativity of others? JHB Nov 2013 #57
Conservatives have to cheat. louis-t Nov 2013 #59
And in TRUE Bully fashion... SoapBox Nov 2013 #65
Nice Knowing You Rand - Enjoy The Forced Retirement cantbeserious Nov 2013 #66
And it's three more years until his re-election campaign struggle4progress Nov 2013 #67
what a fool maindawg Nov 2013 #72
And Republicans give Obama hell for using a teleprompter? JEFF9K Nov 2013 #73
LOL, and so true!! B Calm Nov 2013 #76
He looks so comfortable in that photo (sarcasm) tofuandbeer Nov 2013 #74
Caption - I pooped a hammer underpants Nov 2013 #79
Awww... nikto Nov 2013 #75
Proving once again, the republicans have no respect for copyright laws liberal N proud Nov 2013 #77
Man, you better pull this post FAST! rustydog Nov 2013 #81
I predicted this! JCMach1 Nov 2013 #82

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
36. Gore said he created the internet!
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 08:21 AM
Nov 2013

which he didn't, but that was all it took to universally slander him and marginalize him as a presidential candidate.

Not a chance Paul is held accountable for this, it just will be chalked up as partisan lies.

hatrack

(59,585 posts)
38. Just for the record, and from the two guys who created HTML
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 09:55 AM
Nov 2013

"Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the
Internet and to promote and support its development.

No one person or even small group of persons exclusively "invented" the
Internet. It is the result of many years of ongoing collaboration among
people in government and the university community. But as the two people
who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the
Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a
Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to
our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of
time."

Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf

http://web.eecs.umich.edu/~fessler/misc/funny/gore,net.txt

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
45. The whole "Al Gore Invented the internet" Meme was pushed because he played such a large role in...
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 11:09 AM
Nov 2013

the development and expansion of the internet.

The internet benefits millions of people. The right needed a way to undermine the role of the government (specifically Al Gore) in the development of technology that benefits millions of people and created millions of jobs.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
58. Think about how stupid the average Republican is,...they don't write the legislation...
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 02:44 PM
Nov 2013

They let corporate lawyers do all of that and put their name on it after their lawyers look at it.

Then they take credit for it.

It's all ghost written.

These people are cast as spokesmodels. It's been that way since Reagan on the Republican side. The Democrats who are ACTUAL workhorses are hammering out details clause by clause. Republicans have to take everything to a lawyer for review because it's WAY over their head. I guarantee you that Paul Ryan didn't actually write the budget that is his claim to fame. He's a con artist. That's what it takes to be a Star. Kinda funny how someone is booked solid on all of the Sunday Talk and the appears EVERYWHERE after that on morning shows and yet in the middle of that schedule they manage to pump out a 91 page budget complete with charts and graphs including this absolute NONSENSE graph:



Because everyone knows current trends are fixed in stone for the next 70 years.

Meanwhile, the Paul Ryan Plan zeros the debt in 30 years.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
71. Not a chance
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 08:03 PM
Nov 2013

Agree totally on Ryan.

He has the bookish good looks, that is why he was chosen to be the pitch man for it.

But, he is a empty suit. Not a chance he came up with it.

Turbineguy

(37,324 posts)
78. If it was not done that way
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 07:49 AM
Nov 2013

they would have to run smart people for office. Smart people are harder to control. During the shutdown CNBC had a teabagger congresscritter on every day. And no mater what they were asked, they gave the same answer.

They are taught a few talking points, shown a few cheapshots and think they are ready to govern.

on point

(2,506 posts)
63. Another big lie. He was instrumental to seeing that DARPA was funded to create the web
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 04:07 PM
Nov 2013

The right wing meme is just another example of their inability to handle distinction and simplify down to what they can grasp, but then is almost always wrong

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
64. Could be a problem....
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 04:32 PM
Nov 2013

He's selling material he plagiarized. Some one may have a financial claim or grounds for lawsuit?

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
2. Okay, a book is much worse than a speech.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:49 PM
Nov 2013

I hope this brings him down. Unfortunately his fans won't care, they don't read books.

I can't believe the way he tried to make the accusation about something it was not. He word saladed it to try to get people to think that the complaint was that he didn't give credit to the movie's screenwriters when he recounted a story from a movie. Not at all what happened or what was complained about. Weasel.

Glad Buzzfeed is continuing on this. Hope Maddow stays on it too.


grantcart

(53,061 posts)
13. It will plague him now forever. The search is on for everything he ever wrote.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:39 PM
Nov 2013

If they find a pattern then it could take him out.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
18. Yeah, it seems like they have found a pattern.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:58 PM
Nov 2013

Catching up on Maddow from yesterday and now it's

2 Wikipedia entries in speeches - Maddow & Buzzfeed
1 AP story in a speech (or two?) - Politico
1 conservative think tank pamphlet in a book - Buzzfeed

And they're just getting started!

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
37. No it won't
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 08:23 AM
Nov 2013

all due respect.

He is a republican.

For YEARS this POTUS was not legitimate because he was "born in Kenya" to the same people fawning over a clown who is half Canadian/half cubam or wtf Cruz is.

Just totally different rules for Rs vs Ds.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
49. If it is established that there is a pattern, repeat pattern
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 01:01 PM
Nov 2013

then writer's in the media will in fact keep bringing it up.


For them it is the equivalency of theft or quackery, but it is in their profession and they take it very personally, while a lot of other things that are more serious are forgiven. The media will make it into something, its one of the few things they actually do.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
70. maybe
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 07:50 PM
Nov 2013

I am skeptical.

It would end the career of a democrat for sure.

Not so sure they hold a republican to account for it.

Alcibiades

(5,061 posts)
84. It didn't end Biden's career
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:14 AM
Nov 2013

He's the Vice President now.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/2607505/Joe-Biden-plagiarised-Neil-Kinnock-speech.html

The difference is, of course, that Biden simply took the hook from Kinnock's speech and reworked it to apply to himself, whereas Paul is a serial plagiarizer.

Though I do agree that Reublicans are more likely to be given a pass on this, and other things, by the so-called "liberal" media.

Response to grantcart (Reply #13)

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
68. and worse than a book is legislation
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 07:27 PM
Nov 2013

the text of which corporatist legislators sometimes get verbatim from corporations.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
10. More like Mr. Lazy
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:36 PM
Nov 2013

I hope THIS buries him. but we all know HIS supporters don't care much fer da reedin' and der ritein'

Tikki

(14,557 posts)
4. He needs to pay more to get better ghost writers..
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:56 PM
Nov 2013

before he puts his name on anything as the author...



Tikki

mazzarro

(3,450 posts)
52. He should not be allowed to blame these on "ghost writers"
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 01:23 PM
Nov 2013

Most "ghost writers" would do better job attributing to sources because their livelihood depend on what they write. Rand Paul's aim has been all for his selfish political promotion only. He wants to be noted as a serious political intellectual as well.

Tikki

(14,557 posts)
54. I was thinking he prob writes little himself…you are correct, he should do this himself...
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 01:54 PM
Nov 2013

Sounds like he might be a procrastinator and then tries to fill in at the last minute...



Tikki

MANative

(4,112 posts)
5. Further proof that this moran has never had...
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:21 PM
Nov 2013

an original thought, and the thoughts he shares publicly are nothing but intellectual (and I use the term only in its legal sense) theft.

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
6. What a lazy weasel
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:29 PM
Nov 2013

This is just so college freshman .... Huh ... So I can't copy and paste stuff from the Internet for my term paper?

Response to Aldo Leopold (Reply #7)

Hekate

(90,677 posts)
9. Rand old buddy old pal, that kind of thing will get you flunked from class ...
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:34 PM
Nov 2013

... and get your entire master's thesis or doctoral dissertation tossed in the shredder.

Dr. Maddow put him on notice, and now a whole lot of others are looking into what he's published and said.

Ron Paul is a Doctor of Medicine, but it sure looks like his son and heir has been coasting along.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
50. seems like a pattern that might also show up in his schoolwork- if so, it should null his degree
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 01:19 PM
Nov 2013

right?

Hekate

(90,677 posts)
61. Too late for that, but it sure could cause embarrassment
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 03:39 PM
Nov 2013

That is, if he's capable of embarrasment, or if any of his followers care.

The reason that Doris Kearns Goodwin suffered as much as she did over an unattributed passage (which iirc she blamed on an errant 3X5 card) is that she is a serious historian/commenter and has standards -- as do her peers. She really paid for that lapse.

Rand is or may be operating in a post-academic-standards universe in which Wikipedia is an extension of your brain and doesn't have to be cited. Or something. There certainly seems to be some combination of ignorance, arrogance, and entitlement at work.

We'll see how this plays out.

 

adieu

(1,009 posts)
11. Everyone is going to go through
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:36 PM
Nov 2013

all his spoken and published words to match them to prior works. He'll be crucified when his numbers are way higher than anyone else's.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
14. This story keeps getting bigger and bigger
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:47 PM
Nov 2013

It was broke originally by Rachel Maddow and Rand (who is a shitstain slavery apologist) called her a "hater" of all things. Now karma is beating the living shit out of him. Rachel is having a ball lambasting him over it.

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
16. Rand Paul's supporters likely see this development this way: Satan knew what Rand would write,
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:54 PM
Nov 2013

so he caused authors in the past to publish Rand's future work as their own. That is, authors of the past actually plagiarized Rand of the future, as arranged by Satan.

TxDemChem

(1,918 posts)
17. Well, it seems his minor son likes to be three sheets to the wind
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:55 PM
Nov 2013

Lol, now he likes to be three sheets to plagiarism. Sorry, had to get that joke out.

japple

(9,824 posts)
19. He is a real creep. Are we entirely sure he is a human? Seems
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 10:01 PM
Nov 2013

to be something like a clone or either an alien.

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
24. Righty Media is rushing to his defense as we speak
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 10:41 PM
Nov 2013
Politifact to the rescue! (and showing its true colors in the process).

Other sources will spring to his defense (partly via offense against his critics).

Just watch.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
28. Yawn...I wouldn't expect anything different.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 11:00 PM
Nov 2013

And the impotent media won't touch the story nor FuksFake News.

If it were to go anyplace...it would all be a mistake AND Heritage will say it is ok.

Lastly, PukeBaggers will never even hear of this.

...depressing that he pays no price.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
29. Even Palin used ghost writers
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 12:31 AM
Nov 2013

Dumber than Palin is hopefully going to be his demise. Does Wikipedia have resignation speeches already written?

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
30. This is the second incident of plagiarism that's been reported about Paul.
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 02:42 AM
Nov 2013

The first was reported by Rachel Maddow; it was in regard to a speech Paul had made.

arthritisR_US

(7,288 posts)
31. First, send this to Rachael Maddow. Second, I
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 02:49 AM
Nov 2013

think this should finally put the nail in his coffin to any success at a presidential run!

deancr

(150 posts)
33. Rut row
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 07:53 AM
Nov 2013

This is just the kind of thing that will get him kicked out of the functionaries village in Galtville.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
41. Sounds like Rand has never had an original thought in his life.
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:56 AM
Nov 2013

His politics were spoon fed to him by his crazy daddy.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
42. ayn rand paul the bart simpson of congress...
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:56 AM
Nov 2013

Lisa: This biography of Bart came out awfully quickly. It's not even
about him!
Bart: Sure it is! Look at the cover.
Lisa: But inside it's mostly about Ross Perot, and the last two
chapters are excerpts from the Oliver North trial.

LibGranny

(711 posts)
43. Check his college coursework if plagiarism comes so easily for him he's
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:57 AM
Nov 2013

probably been doing this for YEARS! Going back to the days when he was supposed to be getting an education!

Botany

(70,504 posts)
44. The man is a serial cheater because when he had trouble getting medical credentials
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 11:05 AM
Nov 2013

.... aka his license from the American board of Opthalmology he invented his own group
the National Board of Opthalmology.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/14/rand-paul-not-board-certi_n_611018.html

 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
46. Two things about this.....
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 11:16 AM
Nov 2013

First, his teabagger base would need to be able to read, second for those that can, do not care!

JHB

(37,160 posts)
57. Didn't Ayn Rand have a problem with "takers" leeching off the work and creativity of others?
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 02:11 PM
Nov 2013

A nod to blogger Driftglass for pointing out that Rand Paul's speeches and books would be disqualified from the annual Atlas Shrugged Essay Contest, which forbids plagarism:

Essay must be solely the work of the entrant. Plagiarism will result in disqualification. Essays must not infringe on any third party rights or intellectual property of any person, company, or organization. By submitting an essay to this Contest, the entrant agrees to indemnify the Ayn Rand Institute for any claim, demand, judgment, or other allegation arising from possible violation of someone’s trademark, copyright, or other legally protected interest in any way in the entrant’s essay.

If Ayn Rand's entire body of work could be summarized in a single sentence it would be this: One, long, often poorly-written and two-dimensional primal scream against anyone ever expropriating someone else's labor for any reason whatsoever.
But Rand Paul doesn't even see a problem with expropriating someone else's labor himself.

That's the real "sense of entitlement" in the world today, folks.

louis-t

(23,292 posts)
59. Conservatives have to cheat.
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 02:52 PM
Nov 2013

It's the only way they can win. Entitlement mentality. Here he is folks, the laziest man alive.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
65. And in TRUE Bully fashion...
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 05:40 PM
Nov 2013

he got all twitchy this morning on ABC about this and then just starts name-calling against those that found him out.

SO typical of a Bully.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
72. what a fool
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 09:24 PM
Nov 2013

he is a serial plagiarizer. Good lord these tea people are world class idiots. I love the dear in the headlights look in his eye. Vapid. absolutely vapid.
He still does not understand what he did wrong. Neither do his supporters.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
77. Proving once again, the republicans have no respect for copyright laws
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 07:42 AM
Nov 2013

Or any law for that matter.

All the songs they play at their campaign rallies without permission and articles and books that are plagiarized.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
81. Man, you better pull this post FAST!
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 01:00 PM
Nov 2013

Or get in line, 'cause Rank Paul wants to duel with you haters!
I hope you can shoot

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