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Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:11 AM

Survey from the Democratic National Committee.....WTF?

Listed 16 issues they wanted me to rank as to importance.

On list: worried about North Korea.

Not on list: Climate Change, environmental concerns.

I'm going with Sanders and socialists.

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Reply Survey from the Democratic National Committee.....WTF? (Original post)
rgbecker Nov 2013 OP
geek tragedy Nov 2013 #1
bemildred Nov 2013 #2
newfie11 Nov 2013 #3
tkmorris Nov 2013 #4
bigdarryl Nov 2013 #25
truedelphi Nov 2013 #36
hobbit709 Nov 2013 #5
Revanchist Nov 2013 #6
muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #11
rgbecker Nov 2013 #12
Mass Nov 2013 #7
AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #8
rgbecker Nov 2013 #13
AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #14
truedelphi Nov 2013 #37
1000words Nov 2013 #24
AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #26
nashville_brook Nov 2013 #32
NightWatcher Nov 2013 #9
99Forever Nov 2013 #10
polichick Nov 2013 #17
99Forever Nov 2013 #18
polichick Nov 2013 #23
magical thyme Nov 2013 #15
polichick Nov 2013 #16
Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #19
bemildred Nov 2013 #20
brooklynite Nov 2013 #21
bemildred Nov 2013 #27
brooklynite Nov 2013 #30
bemildred Nov 2013 #31
1000words Nov 2013 #33
bemildred Nov 2013 #35
Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #28
liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #22
WillyT Nov 2013 #29
AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #34
Scuba Nov 2013 #38
kelliekat44 Nov 2013 #39

Response to rgbecker (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:13 AM

1. You convinced me! nt

 

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Response to rgbecker (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:36 AM

2. That's why I never send them money. The push polling. nt

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Response to rgbecker (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:46 AM

3. I agree with you

Sanders and socialist party.

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Response to rgbecker (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:52 AM

4. And who heads the DNC?

Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Just saying...

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Response to tkmorris (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 04:12 PM

25. Saw her on Fridays Bill Maher show she was HORRIBLE

 

Talking about keeping sanctions on Cuba

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Response to bigdarryl (Reply #25)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 04:47 PM

36. She's about sanctions on Cuba?

Didn't catch her on Maher, but did see her on Stewart. And she didn't answer many of his questions - but did that dance of talking about how great everything DLC and the resulting polices has been. (Though she doesn't of course use the expression DLC.)

I think Stewart has thrown in the towel as well. His Jessica Williams skit on last Mon or Tues night about how Obama is upbeat because no one tells him what really is happening was hilarious but also tragic. Williams asked Jon how he could even do the show every night, and he answered that he pretends he is inside a drama in which a nation is going down the tubes.

And I use that type of pretense myself to get through my daily life. I pretend someday it will all be better. But it's obvious that unless there is some Great Hereafter where decent people get their Pie in the Sky when They Die, nothing much will happen to make the changes needed - totally possible changes, but ones that don't interest the One Percent at all. And since almost everything is under their control...

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Response to rgbecker (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:56 AM

5. N. Korea is somewhere in my bottom 15 to worry about.

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Response to rgbecker (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:58 AM

6. Is this the one you're talking about?

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Response to Revanchist (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 11:09 AM

11. I think even worse is "America's Standing in the World Community"

So they're asking about PR for the USA, before climate change?

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Response to Revanchist (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 11:09 AM

12. Looks like it....mine came in the mail.

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Response to rgbecker (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:59 AM

7. Is it the first time you notice the stupidity of their survey.

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Response to rgbecker (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 11:03 AM

8. Jury result

 

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Tough call because the fact that environmental change was not on the poll IS important. On the other hand, as the election approaches and the candidates are defined, there should be a cut-off for posts that appear to be advocating non-Democratic options. I don't think we're there yet.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: My understanding is that the rule is "You shall not support, or work against, democratic candidates." This post is not that. This post is trying to say that the Democratic Party should be more progressive. I support that and an open sharing of positions and ideas.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Chill.

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Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 11:10 AM

13. Are you saying my post was alarmed?

Seriously?

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Response to rgbecker (Reply #13)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 11:12 AM

14. Yes. Somebody didn't like your post.

 

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Response to rgbecker (Reply #13)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 04:51 PM

37. Easy explanation:

This site is for all things Democratic, and for all of us to support the Democratic ticket.

The fact that the DLC Dems who run the party are now further to the right than the Republicans of the early seventies, and the fact that Republicans are half baked nutters, doesn't excuse anyone here trying to think outside of the box.

Nor does the fact that 40% of all Americans indicate to pollsters that they are fed up with the One Percent and its total control over Both Parties help us get any wiggle room.


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Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 04:08 PM

24. A 6-0 shut out should have consequences

 

Asinine alert, imo

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Response to 1000words (Reply #24)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 04:19 PM

26. Agreed. 100%.

 

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Response to 1000words (Reply #24)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 04:37 PM

32. yep.

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Response to rgbecker (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 11:07 AM

9. it's not so much a survey as a donation request form

they don't really care what you think, they just want your cash. Now if you can give hundreds of thousands or millions they'll start to listen to what you want.

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Response to rgbecker (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 11:08 AM

10. Yep.

Still tone deaf. And they wonder why so many of us think they are worthless.

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #10)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 12:15 PM

17. They're not tone deaf - just corporate whores. We have to stop believing...

they give a shit about people.

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Response to polichick (Reply #17)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 01:33 PM

18. Correct on both counts.

I've known they don't give a shit about anyone but themselves and their owners for years. By tone deaf, I mean they can't see (hear) the impending shitstorm headed their way.

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #18)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 03:48 PM

23. Well, I sure hope there's a shitstorm headed their way! :)

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Response to rgbecker (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 12:12 PM

15. Ha! So I "randomly" picked the number 100, and made N. Korea my 100th priority

 

and worked my way up their push poll list from there.

Then in the comments section, I filled in my real priorities. I didn't bother to give them any money, either, because I doubt they share my priorities, even though a few of their priorities did make my top 16 and got the same numbers as in my real list.

So jobs may have been #5 on the list, but terrorism was #99. Or was that the deficit? I forget.

It accepted my response, so don't feel you have to be limited by their choices. Just let them know how out of touch they are and how stupid you are not!!!!

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Response to rgbecker (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 12:14 PM

16. Democratic National Conmasters

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Response to rgbecker (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 01:41 PM

19. It's almost like one of those Nigerian get rich quick letters.

 

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #19)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 01:50 PM

20. Better, it's completely legal, and they can use it any way they like.

And they don't like economic progressives much.

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Response to rgbecker (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 02:09 PM

21. You DO realize that this is just a fundraising letter, right?

And that it has not reflection on what Democratic policies are?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #21)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 04:21 PM

27. So DNC push polls do not reflect Democratic values?

Thanks for admitting that.

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Response to bemildred (Reply #27)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 04:27 PM

30. Seriously...

This is not pushing a DNC message; it's attempting to collect contact info and contributions, based on what the DNC thinks are of concern to the donors getting the letter. Maybe the fact the progressive proudly talk about how they never give to DNC accounts for the fact that their issies aren't on the list.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #30)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 04:32 PM

31. If you want info, you ask people what concerns them, you don't give them a list you made.

The uses of push polling are well understood and if you don't think the DNC knows what they are up to, then you are asserting they are incompetent. They know perfectly well what our concerns are, and if they want money from us they can mention them.

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Response to bemildred (Reply #31)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 04:45 PM

33. +1

 

It's really pretty sad you even needed to write that.

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Response to 1000words (Reply #33)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 04:47 PM

35. It's pathetic. nt

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #21)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 04:24 PM

28. Right, that makes perfect sense.

They're only trying to draw the attention of people who can afford to contribute big-time, and really don't give a shit about what the proles think because they don't have either money or influence.

If you stand to make big money on a conflict with N. Korea, they wanna know it.

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Response to rgbecker (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 03:21 PM

22. how about education, SS and Medicare, wages,

legalizing recreational marijuana and not taxing medical marijuana? These are my issues. I too am going with Sanders and the socialists. I'm sick of democrats acting like republicans.

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Response to rgbecker (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 04:25 PM

29. K & R !!!

 


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Response to rgbecker (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 04:45 PM

34. Also on the survey re issues of importance (but not in any particular order):

 

* Reducing the Deficit

* Combating Terrorism

* Dealing with Iran

* Protecting Progress Acheived in the First Term of the Obama Administration

* Improving Education (not sure whether that means favoring more privatization or not)

* Implementing ... Immigration Reform


What's not on the list:

* NSA Trashing of the 4th Amendment

* Approval of the TPP

* Continuing to let Republican War Criminals Go Free

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Response to rgbecker (Original post)

Mon Nov 4, 2013, 05:56 AM

38. The Democratic Party leadership has been largely co-opted by the right.

 

Bernie, Elizabeth, Keith, Rich and a few others stand for the same principles as the Democratic base. But that's it.

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Response to rgbecker (Original post)

Mon Nov 4, 2013, 06:17 AM

39. How about sending a big DU message to Debbie instead of just talking to ourselves and giving up?

 

Throwing in the towel is just what the others want. We must stop doing this within our own party. Sure, we can support Sanders but will that get us to the end we desire? What we need to do is bring the Debbies of the party into positions and policy movements that WE want to support. The resources are within to do this not outside. If we divide now we lose the gains we made against the Tea Party types during the last year. Read my new post about what is happening to us right now.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023974456

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