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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThat does it! I'm no longer an NPR listener!!
I have been a Democrat all of my entire adult/voting age life (since Nixon was in office!) and have been an NPR listener/member since the early 1980s. But during the past few years I have noticed a change in how their reporting has been conducted. There seems to be a certain bias that has become more pronounced since the early 2000s including the corporate donor ads. Mara Liasson had been rather positive about the administration of Clinton but seemed to be pretty positive about BushCo and her bias started to show itself. Since Obama announced his run for his first term, she has become increasingly hostile about Obama and this segment from yesterday was the last straw for me regarding how NPR now presents the events of our time.
After hearing the ever increasingly biased Mara Liasson give this rant, yesterday, on the ACA and the kangaroo court hearings this past week, I was so upset that I had to wait until today before I could write a coherent OP.
I think she' moonlighting for fuxnooz... along with the show's host (ATC Saturday) who led her through the rant:
http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=242618013&m=242632683
I think I'll stick to DU and a few other sources of info and not let these co-opted shills upset me anymore. And I hope I never ever have the misfortune of meeting or having to deal with her in public (I have encountered a number of the NPR staff over the years).
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
2naSalit
(86,591 posts)is that it was the only news, besides an hour of BBC at noon on the same station, that I could get on my radio which doesn't require me to be near my computer to listen to. I live up near the continental divide but on the basin side of the mountain so that I can only get reception from one FM station in the neighboring state and one AM station in the town below that doesn't even have news. This restructures my lifestyle to some degree, painful for a news junkie like me!
And I used to really like NPR's news. But it sounds too much like the fuxnooz crap sooo, forget that. That sh*t will rot your brain, if you have one.
Oh well, so much for that now.
Dyedinthewoolliberal
(15,574 posts)Like www.kser.org definately not NPR but it is public radio
2naSalit
(86,591 posts)I'll check that out. There is no "local" news around here, just state and regional. I live 100 miles from the nearest Interstate Hwy and the same distance to the nearest community that produces news in any format. I'm sure I'll find something suitable but it might take a while.
PS: our "local" station down in the valley is a moldy oldies out of somebody's house and they seem to be allergic to anything more than some national 45 second on-the-hour BS. that is rarely informative or remotely close to being factual. I can't listen to that, causes irreparable brain damage after a short time. It's on in many of the places I have worked in town and I always go home with a headache after 8 hours of that noise.
Dyedinthewoolliberal
(15,574 posts)Monday through Friday before 9am PST, or between 3 and 6 pm for news and information that is not NPR but is public radio
2naSalit
(86,591 posts)Thanks for that and the cheery smiley thing!
xfundy
(5,105 posts)I listen to KQED/SF all day long via itunes and it's thousands of miles away.
2naSalit
(86,591 posts)is my laptop and I use my neighbor's Internet system and it costs me $$ but more than that, when we both use the system simultaneously, it gets bogged down. You need to know that I live in a very remote place and outside access to anything is sparse. If I were in a more populated area, I'm sure I'd have many more options.
But I do thank all of you who have offered suggestions and appreciate the info. I will check out many or all of them.
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)you can go to the contracted sites (TED, wait wait don't tell me, etc) and subscribe for free for their weekly episodes, shows, etc.
2naSalit
(86,591 posts)that I haven't thought of, thank you!
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)I still listen to the RadioLab, On the Media, Wait Wait etc. but their "news" has changed so drastically I cannot bring myself to listen anymore. Luckily, our local public radio station, WNYC, actually produces great programming and their weekday programming is interesting and engaging.
MADem
(135,425 posts)When Bush was in charge, he made sure his ideologues got those jobs. They made sure that their acolytes got hired on to PAYING jobs (not government funded) in the public TV/radio structure.
As a consequence, the place is now infested with those shitty little morons. It will take a while to get 'em out.
Infested. It needs fumigated for fascists.
2naSalit
(86,591 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)2naSalit
(86,591 posts)the music programming because I can get it on my FM radio, the rest will cost me in extended Internet use. I'll get used to it after a while. Coming up with the fees that I share with my neighbor is where it's gonna hurt being unemployed and all that.
grrrr!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Heard repeated ABC broadcasts moaning about Iran's carpet industry reduced by westerners not buying their $10,000 luxury Persian rugs.
And an interview with a woman who had been making them daily since she was 6 years old. No questions about that, just 'how beautiful' they were. And Iran is getting competition from India and China for selling rugs.
I thought, what are they really saying? Who are they saying this for? The upper class that has $10K to blow on a rug? Really?
There is the question of Iranian economic interests being hurt, saying one in eight works on making these rugs. Really, that's over 10% of their economy, rugs?
Does the world need these rugs to live? Why was that the focus?
And that wasn't all that was wrong in their coverage. They kept repeating about the LAX shooter. Fine and dandy. But they added in something about what a shame it was that taxpayer dollars will be spent to take care of the shooter. And then added in, it's the same program that pays for 'the poor.'
To me, that added in was like Rush's little 'seeds of hate' that I used to hear him use in the nineties. The ones where he'd out of the blue mention a report about the money wasted on the disabled. At the same time he was railing about Hillary's death panels. No comment, just left it there which nearly made me mad enough to call in, but I didn't. Just a seed planted, all it was, as people don't forget what they hear, it goes into their subconscious. To be pulled out later as a construct for the demagogues later.
It was expressed in the same terms the Third Reich did, fussing about how much money with figures added in the billboards, of the 'good, hard working people' were paying taxes to care for the mentally / physically handicapped.
They named them 'worthless mouths' and posted pictures of them, drooling in wheel chairs. The Weimar Republic had a social safety net. The Nazis laid out those seeds, just as the media has, to lay dormant in the mind as needed when a crisis appears to be in the making and people get all stressed and look for someone to blame.
Old as the Nazis, much older that that, and very effective. The next thing the Nazis did when they got some seats in the government, was shut everything that worked down and made only one voice in the media.
It's why FDR made the FCC to prevent it happening. Of course to us at DU, who know some of the history, we can see it coming. But so many don't know a thing, they are fully educated by FNN, etc. NPR has the music you like; other venues have things to attract people but they will always put in the poison seed.
Anyway, good luck on finding anything, I've given up on any progressive radio. It's much worse than it was before Bush and even during Bush. They are really flexing their power.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)listeners
. especially middle-aged women like me.
Agony
(2,605 posts)thats when bushit the minor put Kenneth Tomlinson in charge of the CPB, NPR has never recovered.
Some day we will have public broadcasting back...
Cheers
Agony
Lasher
(27,581 posts)But we'll never get it back.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)Alan Turing yesterday
http://www.radiolab.org
longship
(40,416 posts)But you can download that as a podcast. That's what I do.
Plus, the Metropolitan Opera season is still broadcast on Saturday afternoon.
I stopped listening to Morning Edition when Bob Edwards left and ATC when Noah Adams left, only occasionally listening now.
Alas, Click and Clack have also retired.
But the Met is still great. Can hardly wait for the season to begin.
2naSalit
(86,591 posts)regarding all the good folks leaving NPR. I do like the classical music that is on most of the time but Wait! Wait isn't a program the mormons like so they won't air it. Someone must have made fun of mittens one too many times... they used to air it and several other shows worth the listen, not anymore. And the church all day Sunday and a couple other times during the week is pretty annoying. All the other radio in the area are church about 75% of the time and Hannity or Slush the rest of the time. I'm not able to endure that torture for anything.
I'll still listen to the classics when they're on but now I have to use my neighbor's bandwidth for all my news. I'll have to negotiate to keep my cost of usage down. The Met is an online access thing around here too though I love it all the same.
When we both are trying to listen to something, it gets bogged down with long pauses for both of us. I try to keep that down by using my radio, that's free.
Such are the trade-offs of living on the mountainside I guess. I did go without a phone for a couple-few years so I guess I'll have to make more adjustments to my lifestyle.
Mostly I'm miffed about the biases on what is supposed to be "public" broadcasting.
yellowdogintexas
(22,252 posts)The Met here is broadcast on a station owned by the city of Dallas: WRR 101.1 .
several of the other classical music programs normally heard on NPR are broadcast here on WRR because our NPR station is an all news/talk format.
Nice listening. Streams on the computer also and there is a smartphone app.
I listen to progressive talk radio using my computer. I like WCPT the best
longship
(40,416 posts)But I have four public stations to choose from, one at Interlochen, the location of the prestigious music camp.
A roof antenna and rotor helps.
It's kind of like that here too with the exception of other radio available. this is rural Montana, most everything is Cable, Internet or satellite access, the rest is very local and hardly worth it. The one FM station I can get is an NPR affiliate but it's owned by mormons who like to censor most everything and then they get to air about twelve hours or more of church too. If you didn't listen to Morning Edition Sunday at 6am - 7am then you missed the news on Sunday, that's it for news for the day.
I know there's lots of news to access online... I'll have to see what I can do about my Internet charges with my neighbor. That's all there is to it.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Why not hear a radio play?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qy2s
2naSalit
(86,591 posts)is the cost of my Internet access. I share it with my neighbor and it's cost is based on how often I use it so I try not to be "on" all day/night. I do get on BBC from time to time but I can get the "NewsHour" for the noon hour on weekdays on the FM station I can get on radio, which is free.
hunter
(38,311 posts)Much of it is Fox News for people who think they are too smart for Fox News.
2naSalit
(86,591 posts)wasn't that way before Newt and friends started attacking them. It's been a sorry glide down slope since then with a few punctuated speed ramps to ever lower levels.
Fla Dem
(23,661 posts)there are some excellent shows still broadcast i.e.; Humankind, State of the Re:Union, All Things Considered & Fresh Air to name a few.
2naSalit
(86,591 posts)are the problem. the entertainment stuff, love it, the stuff that passes for news with NPR now-a-days... not so much. In fact, unacceptable.
gopiscrap
(23,759 posts)enlightenment
(8,830 posts)under the bus, why not just stop listening to Mara Liasson?
There is still plenty of good, progressive, informative programming on NPR - I think you're tossing the baby out with the bathwater.
2naSalit
(86,591 posts)enlightenment
(8,830 posts)But she doesn't own or run the station. All I'm saying is that, with limited listening resources (as you have said), it seems a shame to toss all of NPR.
I listen to the bits I like (and that's generally not the news). I like the clever artsy stuff - I like Ted Talk - I like the local programming - and I enjoy listening to the shows that offer more in-depth analysis and discussion of current events. That's a lot of programming, even without the news.
I'm not arguing with you, though; I'm just offering my perspective. If you feel that you cannot in good conscience listen to the station anymore, that's your choice.
2naSalit
(86,591 posts)It is a choice. And I understand that Ms. Liasson does not own the station or the programming but her regurgitation of fuxnooz talking points with the same attitude is more than I am willing to listen to. You never know when she's going to come on as she is a "correspondent" who of late merely opines rather than reports. And with a rather acerbic attitude at that when reporting on anything Obama.
What I am upset about is the actual NPR news "reporting" and content if you can actually call it that anymore. The actual station I can get on radio is pretty limited for most thoughtful programming, believe me, the NPR news IS the artsy more in-depth stuff except for the classical music they offer. Other than that, it's pretty much church ...and one hour of BBC at noon on weekdays. Not much else going on there other than opinionated regional, cherry-picked news read aloud by some student that was apparently home-schooled and can't read English or reason out pronunciations in English. I can't listen with my hand constantly on the on/off switch.
As I said elsewhere, I'll listen to the classical music because I'm actually really into that and don't have any other access other than the few recordings I have in my possession, a very small collection.
What passes for news on the national broadcast of NPR's programs, not so much anymore. I think I can do better with stuff online at which I haven't yet found my self yelling back. NPR has reduced me to that several times recently. I can do without that aggravation and disappointment. Might as well be fux.
KG
(28,751 posts)of the things that started to bother me but I have little other free access to news.
pansypoo53219
(20,976 posts)i don't listen to the moles.
mahina
(17,651 posts)I turn it on in the car and check the clock to see how long I'll last this time. I lasted three minutes on Friday before they said something wingy.
But this clip is not so bad. These are facts. I would like them to bring up the right's obstruction but other than that, I can't really disagree with the statements. Thanks for the link to the clip.
My own experience with ACA is very positive, though indirect. I'm going to post about it now and will add the link here.
NPR is losing me, a longtim donor and volunteer for many years, and I don't have anyplace better to go.
rurallib
(62,413 posts)They let Williams go, they should have let Liasson go at the same time.
Been listening to NPR since the early 70s. Pretty much quit when they let Bob Edwards go.
Listen when it is over the air and the choice is NPR or the commercial garbage. But even in the few moments I listen there are 2 or 3 fuckups.
I listen to left wing radio online www.chicagoprogressiveradio.com
gristy
(10,667 posts)find a station near you here: http://www.democracynow.org/stations
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hopemountain
(3,919 posts)their bias has increased since president obama's election - and the weekly and weekend hosts and "news" reporters are unable to control their bias to the point it is no longer a news report but editorial after editorial.
they lost me as a listener during the last election and as a donor since 2008.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Fuck 'em. We can hear right wing radio anywhere on the dial. We didn't really need to add to it.
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)to the rant. The one you included just had her regurgitating facts.
momrois
(98 posts)So, your post prompted me to look her up. Right there on the front page, before even clinking on any links, was a short profile of Ms. Liasson:
Mara Liasson
Journalist
Mara Liasson is an American journalist and political pundit. She is the national political correspondent for National Public Radio and also a contributor at Fox News Channel. Wikipedia
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)Here is an interview I did with Harry Fear (yeah, no commercials - we are an independent station and plan to stay that way):
&feature=youtu.be
Have some future interviews lined up that we will be promoting soon (trying to pin down the dates for some is hard, especially with bands).
Right now the station is in ' testing' mode if you will (we do play music 24x7 and are licensed to play it) to see what shows work well where, creating and using PSA's, building up social media -- we have a website/twitter/reddit/fb/youtube/forum:
Our web site is mainly just for people to use for listening to the show right now and we are not going overboard with worry about it since the whole shebang is being moved to a new domain and in-house server, ie - it looks like crap now. And I know what crap looks like since I spent years doing websites (internal) for companies. A friend started the page as a favor for us, so we played with it some and decided....uh, no. But being too busy to get it all done right now we will take it since it does stream the show live. I should note that she had it looking really nice then someone else moved things around, I tested some things, etc. Was not meant to go live until January.
The guy who owns the station has been doing radio for 30 years (and is an old friend of mine from HS) and pretty liberal. We will interview pretty much anyone, we can do remote shows from anywhere (which we recently tested), and this friday we will be doing a live video of the show.
2naSalit
(86,591 posts)I'll bookmark that.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)in December before rolling out in mid January, will publish the link on DU at that time.
That one will be changed some this week and next (formatting, some updated guests lists, etc) but we don't really want to spend the time on it right now. I hate the tools that place uses, I am used to coding it all by hand
2naSalit
(86,591 posts)concern about the newer tools. I grew up with computers and hand coding since the early 80s. I am not all that comfortable with some of the new technology but that could be due to my lack of access the past few years.
Guess we will have little or no choice after a time.
Good luck with that, I'll be checking it out.
Bigredhunk
(1,349 posts)I didn't know NPR was a RW outfit these days. I don't listen to the radio much, so I had no idea they were righties. They dominate the media (TV, print, radio), and have the balls to talk about liberal media/mainstream media.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)NPR has become a real disappointment.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)Seems like I've seen this post or at least its content before?
2naSalit
(86,591 posts)like the classical music and some game shows are great but the news shows of late have been regurgitations of everything I've seen on one or more MSNBC evening shows like Rachel Maddow, The Ed Show and other news providers. If I hear anything on any of those topics, it often comes on NPR a day or two later. Rarely do I hear them covering a story that could be called exclusive anymore when it once-upon-a-time was the norm.
You may have seen similar post recently but not from me. But I am not happy about the quality of the service any longer so I have to make a decision since it is interrupting my hard work at not being negative about life.
Thanks to many posts up-thread, I see there are several options for alternatives. I am in talks with my neighbor who owns the Internet connector I use about this. He's pretty disgusted with NPR lately too. Maybe we can work out a staggered use schedule that works for both of us.
Betsy Ross
(3,147 posts)Still get a little news with the morning alarm, but hopefully not enough to pisse off.
question everything
(47,476 posts)I think that the Republicans constantly want to cut off funding to NPR, claiming that it is biased.
My conclusion is that if someone is attacked from both sides it must be doing something right.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)When NPR, MSNBC, and Hillary are branded as the Liberal Left,
the REAL Left is pushed off the map into oblivion.
Omnith
(171 posts)I listen to NPR very often and view Fox News on occasion and I can say with a lot confidence that there is no similarities between them. I can understand you may dislike some of NPR's reporting, but keep in mind you are never going to find any two people or points of view that are in complete agreement. Just look at all the disagreement from like minded people on the DU. I read/watch/listen to a huge variety of media and I believe it is a good thing. I enjoy the differences by understanding we all have the right to our own opinions.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)And encourage us and your friends to do so.
I agree this woman is horrible and seems palpably annoyed that Obama is president and getting things done. Time to have her thrown out.
2naSalit
(86,591 posts)I need to get my writing brain in gear and get that done today. She's done her damage and now it's time for her to go. The young host she was talking to seems to be on the same page though, he's new and seems impressionable, but it also seemed he was asking questions from a script that she probably provided for him. Guess I'll need to include him in my complaint letter. He's been hosting the weekend ATC for about six or eight weeks now and I have had to turn it off several times already before the show was half over.
Thanks for the encouragement.
2na.
judesedit
(4,438 posts)never chooses any republicans for his cabinet. Chuck Hagel happens to be a republican. Also, not 1 person mentioned that the HHS secretary, Kathleen Sebelius, happens to be a republican. And she's the one who's responsible for the roll-out. Obama trusted her. I guess he shouldn't have.