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Stinky The Clown

(67,790 posts)
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:06 PM Nov 2013

So . . . a week after 60 Minutes aired that completely bogus Benghazi Bullshit . . .

. . . . they read letters.

In selecting letters to be excerpted for inclusion, an organization such as 60 Minutes needs to do some heavy editing. And so they did.

They selected only praise. They selected only those who said they needed to do more. They selected one that said Hillary Clinton needs to be heard.

Not one ONE FUCKING WORD about the completely discredited source of their bullshit story. Not one word that they heard from people about the story's completely off base premise.

Nope.

So, while Dan Rather's story was right, even as his evidence was impeachable, this story is demonstrably false, and source from a demonstrable liar who is already discredited, they just pat themselves on the back.

Shame on all of you. And shame on Lara Logan for being the central CBS figure is this crap story.




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So . . . a week after 60 Minutes aired that completely bogus Benghazi Bullshit . . . (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Nov 2013 OP
... the man identified in the report as Morgan Jones... real name was confirmed as Dylan Davies... Tx4obama Nov 2013 #1
Lara Logan is a hardcore Neocon/rightwinger. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #2
She is. Lara Logan is deep, deep in the security complex. She is even married to bluestate10 Nov 2013 #3
i've always found her to be brave samsingh Nov 2013 #6
Lara Logan is not a neocon samsingh Nov 2013 #7
"Shoot ’em, bomb ’em, fuck ’em. They will kill your children.” geek tragedy Nov 2013 #16
i've read some more of her speeches and found them to be troubling samsingh Nov 2013 #19
Too bad. tblue Nov 2013 #34
Oh yeah - she openly admitted to currying favor with closeupready Nov 2013 #11
She's tough--served many dangerous assignments--but has gone off the deep end geek tragedy Nov 2013 #17
I view her as unprofessional. northoftheborder Nov 2013 #26
Michael Hastings & Lara Logan illustrate difference between afflicting & serving powerful deurbano Nov 2013 #13
so then no one lost their job? for airing something bogus? ejpoeta Nov 2013 #4
Fox lite. Scuba Nov 2013 #5
Dear 60 Minutes: Your shit smells like beautiful perfume Blue Owl Nov 2013 #8
R#16 & K n/t UTUSN Nov 2013 #9
I'm boycotting CBS News. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #10
It doesn't surprise me. Beacool Nov 2013 #12
60 Minutes lost 1 more viewer! B Calm Nov 2013 #14
Sadly, I expected nothing less. SchmerzImArsch Nov 2013 #15
Shame on the courts for ruling that a news org can force reporters to lie. grahamhgreen Nov 2013 #18
Haven't watched that BS show since mikeysnot Nov 2013 #20
Same here. Get news online, and perspective from DU! AAO Nov 2013 #37
Don Hewitt would be disgusted lpbk2713 Nov 2013 #21
The 4th estate have been given ctsnowman Nov 2013 #22
I really hadn't expected a retraction! CBS bought, sold & delivered! hue Nov 2013 #23
they really need to do a follow up Mikeystyle Nov 2013 #24
Isn't it... DirtyDawg Nov 2013 #25
I knew his story was bogus veganlush Nov 2013 #27
The 12-foot wall did it for me nt Link Speed Nov 2013 #28
we can no longer rely on our media to provide the truth or even both sides of a story. spanone Nov 2013 #29
60 minutes died PatrynXX Nov 2013 #30
Television News has lost its way Stainless Nov 2013 #31
Absolutely true about the sheep warrant46 Nov 2013 #36
K&R lillypaddle Nov 2013 #32
Hmmm, sounds like this things needs a boycott of their sponsors..... DeSwiss Nov 2013 #33
The M$M has a narrative to follow and has nothing to do with reporting Rex Nov 2013 #35
Seems CBS is whoring for Ken Cootchinelly. Rain Mcloud Nov 2013 #38
I noticed that, too. Hard to believe those 3 letters were representative!! JEFF9K Nov 2013 #39
Our nation turns its' lonely eyes to you Iwillnevergiveup Nov 2013 #40

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
1. ... the man identified in the report as Morgan Jones... real name was confirmed as Dylan Davies...
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:10 PM
Nov 2013


Media Matters Founder Calling on 60 Minutes to Retract Report on Benghazi

60 Minutes did a new, in-depth report on the attack at the American consulate in Benghazi last year, and it helped to revitalize the national debate over the attack. CBS’s report featured an exclusive with a man who recounted what he witnessed, but Media Matters founder David Brock is calling on 60 Minutes to retract the report for a big error.

The key criticism here surrounds the man identified in the report as Morgan Jones (though his real name was confirmed as Dylan Davies afterwards). He told 60 Minutes he was witness to the attack, and described what he saw around him, but a Washington Post report on Thursday says that does not match his earlier testimony on the matter, just three days after the attack on the compound.

In Davies’s 21 / 2-page incident report to Blue Mountain, the Britain-based contractor hired by the State Department to handle perimeter security at the compound, he wrote that he spent most of that night at his Benghazi beach-side villa. Although he attempted to get to the compound, he wrote in the report, “we could not get anywhere near .?.?. as roadblocks had been set up.”

He learned of Stevens’s death, Davies wrote, when a Libyan colleague who had been at the hospital came to the villa to show him a cellphone picture of the ambassador’s blackened corpse. Davies wrote that he visited the still-smoking compound the next day to view and photograph the destruction.


http://www.mediaite.com/online/media-matters-founder-calling-on-60-minutes-to-retract-report-on-benghazi/


 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. Lara Logan is a hardcore Neocon/rightwinger.
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:12 PM
Nov 2013

What happened to her in Cairo was a repulsive outrage, but she is not to be trusted.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
3. She is. Lara Logan is deep, deep in the security complex. She is even married to
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:20 PM
Nov 2013

a legionnaire that she cheated with while both were married to other people.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
16. "Shoot ’em, bomb ’em, fuck ’em. They will kill your children.”
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 12:21 AM
Nov 2013

That's how one attendee summarized a 2012 speech of hers.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/10/09/lara-logan-s-war-cry.html

That jest set the tone for a provocative address before 1,100 in which the foreign correspondent and 60 Minutes star skewered American policy in Afghanistan and Libya, called for a ramped-up military campaign against terrorists, and criticized the Obama administration and others for both underestimating the Taliban’s strength in Afghanistan and for tolerating Pakistan’s obvious coddling of terrorists killing American soldiers.

The Taliban and al Qaeda, she made clear, “want to destroy the West and us,” and we must fight fire with fire, She appeared to leave the assembled alternatively riveted and just a bit troubled by a critique with interventionist implications clearly drawn from her reporting.


She wanted us to bomb Libya after Benghazi. That's who CBS put on the story.

samsingh

(17,595 posts)
19. i've read some more of her speeches and found them to be troubling
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 09:01 AM
Nov 2013

she seems to have changed. She doesn't appear to be a repug - but she has strong, intense opinions about the war on terror.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
34. Too bad.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 06:21 PM
Nov 2013

I used to admire her. Well, I guess I still admire her courage. But I wish she hadn't gone this righty route.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
11. Oh yeah - she openly admitted to currying favor with
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 11:33 PM
Nov 2013

American generals in an interview she did with Charlie Rose last year. Just a disgraceful example of how poor the state of American journalism is - not that she is a bad person, but as a journalist, she doesn't deserve a spot on 60 Minutes, IMHO, as she is hardly the 'tough as nails' type of professional journalists inherently need to be.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
17. She's tough--served many dangerous assignments--but has gone off the deep end
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 12:28 AM
Nov 2013

and is now a bloodthirsty militarist.

northoftheborder

(7,572 posts)
26. I view her as unprofessional.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 02:28 PM
Nov 2013

Here's why: her provacative dress and hair styles while on filming locations, and her manner of speech is always the same, deliberately slow and honeyed. She just annoys me.

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
13. Michael Hastings & Lara Logan illustrate difference between afflicting & serving powerful
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 11:51 PM
Nov 2013

MONDAY, JUN 28, 2010 04:29 AM PDT
The Two Poles of Journalism
Michael Hastings and Lara Logan illustrate the difference between afflicting and serving the powerful
BY GLENN GREENWALD

http://www.salon.com/2010/06/28/journalism_9/

<<With his Rolling Stone article on Gen. McChrystal, Michael Hastings has become both the personification of, and spokesperson for, Real Journalism, and as a result, has provoked intense animosity from establishment-serving “reporters” everywhere. He apparently committed the gravest sin: he exposed and embarrassed rather than flattered and protected a powerful government official, and in our upside-down media culture, doing that is a sign of irresponsibility rather than fulfillment of the basic journalistic function. As Barrett Brown notes in this excellent defense, Hastings in 2008 did to the establishment media what he did to Gen. McChyrstal — exposed what they do and how they think by writing the truth — after he quit Newsweek (where he was the Baghdad correspondent) and wrote a damning exposé about how the media distorts war coverage. As Brown put it: “Hastings ensured that he would never be trusted by the establishment media ever again.”

Yesterday, Hastings was interviewed on CNN’s Reliable Sources about the criticisms he has received from media figures over his article, and that was followed by a segment with CBS’ Lara Logan, who lambasted him. I really recommend watching these two segments (video below), as they illustrate the two poles of journalism: those who view their role as exposing the relevant secrets of the powerful (Hastings) and those who view their role as protecting those secrets and serving the interests of those officials (Logan). Amazingly, Logan sounds like the most devoted member of McChyrstal’s P.R. staff or even his family: so furious is she that Hastings would publish an article that reflected negatively on this Fine, Great Man (whom she supposedly covers) – so devoted is she to the interests of this military official — that, at one point, she drops the neutral journalist mask and shows her Bill Kristol face, and actually spat: “Michael Hastings has never served his country the way McChrystal has.” >>

ejpoeta

(8,933 posts)
4. so then no one lost their job? for airing something bogus?
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:22 PM
Nov 2013

that is very interesting considering what happened to dan rather

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
12. It doesn't surprise me.
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 11:42 PM
Nov 2013

They weren't about to say that their report was bogus. As for Hillary needing to be heard, she already testified in front of both Congressional committees, what more do they want?

 

SchmerzImArsch

(49 posts)
15. Sadly, I expected nothing less.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 12:04 AM
Nov 2013

2016 is upon us. And while I will no be supporting Hillary, the only tool left in the Republican toolbox is the big lie. In this case, the Benghazi Big Lie. And CBS has been instructed to use the tool early.

lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
21. Don Hewitt would be disgusted
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 12:11 PM
Nov 2013




The articles that have been airing for the past year or two on 60 Minutes would
never have made it beyond the first draft if Hewitt was still calling the shots.


ctsnowman

(1,903 posts)
22. The 4th estate have been given
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 12:58 PM
Nov 2013

nice estates of their own and see no reason to upset the applecart in a major way.

Mikeystyle

(208 posts)
24. they really need to do a follow up
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 01:47 PM
Nov 2013

and give that "witness" the same treatment. ask him about the inconsistencies in what he's said about this and why he LIED to Logan on 60 Seconds.

 

DirtyDawg

(802 posts)
25. Isn't it...
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 02:20 PM
Nov 2013

...ironic that Lara Logan has been developing a reputation as a whore and is now featured on the 'venerable' news show - 60 Minutes - that has become nothing but another 'whore' of a news program. Don't know just when it was that '60' turned into this pathetic corporate shill of a show - maybe the time they caved in the suit against 'big tobacco'....the one they made the movie about - but they're dead to me.

veganlush

(2,049 posts)
27. I knew his story was bogus
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 02:33 PM
Nov 2013

as soon as I heard it, when he was talking about having rifle-butted someone. he watches too many movies. he rifle butted some terrorist who then just fell away and our intrepid hero soldiered on...

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
30. 60 minutes died
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 03:59 PM
Nov 2013

around the time of the Jefferey Wigand (sp) story they just sorta had to let the Jefferey one out of the bag because they were caught red handed with it. anyone related who made that show good is either gone , fired or left.

Stainless

(718 posts)
31. Television News has lost its way
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 05:26 PM
Nov 2013

Today's TV News has been hijacked by incompetent talking weenies masquerading as journalists. The decline was determined when entertainment was merged with news and the word "Infotainment" was invented. The reason CBS stands out as a journalistic train wreck is because the bar was set so high by Edward R. Murrow and his "boys". The betrayal is industry wide with CBS following in the dirty footprints of NBC and ABC. The truth is available to those who have the time, the ability and the resources to look for it. Most people are either too busy or too lazy to uncover the truth so they believe the BS they are being fed by bird brains and they vote accordingly. That's how we end up with such losers in public office.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
33. Hmmm, sounds like this things needs a boycott of their sponsors.....
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 06:11 PM
Nov 2013

...to get their attention.



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Rex

(65,616 posts)
35. The M$M has a narrative to follow and has nothing to do with reporting
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 06:23 PM
Nov 2013

the news anymore. NOW all these supposed 'news' organizations are neck deep in partisan politics and have to please their paymasters.

 

Rain Mcloud

(812 posts)
38. Seems CBS is whoring for Ken Cootchinelly.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 08:07 PM
Nov 2013

The usual GOP excooch used to be 9-11 when the Dems got too close,now they just parrot Benghazi and Granny and Grampy foam at the dentures like Pavlov's dog.

I spent some years wandering the dessert of news blackout when i surmised that news was in fact a soapbox for dissemination of corporate propaganda,that is until the interwebnitubes came along.
Remember this gem of bullshit from back in the day:
[link:http://articles.latimes.com/1993-02-10/news/mn-1335_1_gm-pickup|

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
40. Our nation turns its' lonely eyes to you
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 09:03 PM
Nov 2013

Harry Reasoner, Dan Rather, Ed Bradley, Edward R. Murrow, Morley Sather, Andy Rooney.

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