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cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 11:54 PM Nov 2013

I somewhat doubt Rand Paul is a plagiarist

I do not picture Rand Paul copying and pasting from Wikipedia. I don't picture Rand Paul doing much typing or research or any sort.

I have no reason to think that he even writes his speeches or op-ed pieces... and certainly not since becoming a Senator.

Probably more like the sock-puppet of a plagiarist staffer. Can one be an aspiring plagiarist?

Hell, dude probably never even saw Gattaca.

(In case anyone misses the point, which is wry in nature, this is not a defense of Rand Paul.)

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I somewhat doubt Rand Paul is a plagiarist (Original Post) cthulu2016 Nov 2013 OP
Paul is responsible. He gave the speaches. He's been told. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2013 #1
Hmm - seems like the "Daddy Defense" to me. Marie Marie Nov 2013 #2
I think that's a pretty good take on it. nyquil_man Nov 2013 #3
My biggest problem with Rand, is that he's an asshole. killbotfactory Nov 2013 #4
A knack for hiring the best plagiarists is a good thing! pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #5
Paul owns this one Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #6
still makes the fucker responsible, it goes out in his name gopiscrap Nov 2013 #7
He deserves to be excoriated for this. Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #8
probably true he had someone write it for him because Blue_Roses Nov 2013 #9
Either way, he owns it. BootinUp Nov 2013 #10
yep....whether paul did it or one of his staff, he owns it beachbum bob Nov 2013 #11
Rand Paul is now throwing his staff under the bus Gothmog Nov 2013 #12
A Baylor Journalism Professor has some choice comments for Rand Paul Gothmog Nov 2013 #13
The facts say otherwise. Rex Nov 2013 #14

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
2. Hmm - seems like the "Daddy Defense" to me.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 12:30 AM
Nov 2013

Didn't his Daddy's Newsletter espouse a bunch of racist BS and Daddy claimed that he was unaware and that the writings were done by other staff members of the newsletter? The apple doesn't fall far from the tree - blame the underlings. If the publication or speech is given under your name or by you yourself, you have a responsibility to vet the words and or content.

nyquil_man

(1,443 posts)
3. I think that's a pretty good take on it.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 12:42 AM
Nov 2013

The plagiarist angle only gets you so far. The key is painting Paul as what he is - an ordinary, run of the mill politician who just says what somebody else thought of for him to say.

killbotfactory

(13,566 posts)
4. My biggest problem with Rand, is that he's an asshole.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 12:44 AM
Nov 2013

Who thinks the poor will be better off if they are allowed to suffer and die en masse.

Like most US "libertarians".

Blue_Roses

(12,894 posts)
9. probably true he had someone write it for him because
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 04:19 AM
Nov 2013

I can't see him interested enough in anything but himself to take the
time. He's still responsible though.

BootinUp

(47,206 posts)
10. Either way, he owns it.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 04:35 AM
Nov 2013

And I hope he is reminded of it at least once a week for the rest of his only term.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
11. yep....whether paul did it or one of his staff, he owns it
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 07:00 AM
Nov 2013

I find it amusing that this guy is so intellectually lazy and dishonest to say the least. Been caught, say you are sorry and move on.

Challenge to a duel? LOL

Gothmog

(145,722 posts)
12. Rand Paul is now throwing his staff under the bus
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 04:28 PM
Nov 2013

It took a while but Rand Paul is finally making the move that most pundits have been expecting. Rand Paul is now blaming his staff for these issues http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rand-paul-blames-plagiarism-on-staff-implements-new-citation-policy

Sen. Rand Paul's office on Tuesday admitted in a statement that some of the Kentucky senator's speeches were poorly sourced and not properly vetted, after several news reports accused him of plagiarism.

Doug Stafford, Paul's senior advisor, said that the senator always uses his own ideas, but relies on staff to provide support.

"Sen. Paul also relies on a large number of staff and advisers to provide supporting facts and anecdotes – some of which were not clearly sourced or vetted properly," Stafford said in the statement.


It is clear that Paul did not write these speeches and so it was only a matter of time before Rand Paul used his staff as scapegoats.

Gothmog

(145,722 posts)
13. A Baylor Journalism Professor has some choice comments for Rand Paul
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 07:22 PM
Nov 2013

Rand Paul attended Baylor for three years but never earned a degree. Rand Paul was accepted into Duke Medical School and so Paul never graduated from Baylor.

A Baylor journalism professor has some choice comments about Paul's lack of ethics. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/journalism-professor-would-flunk-rand-paul-for-an-unambiguous-case-of-plagiarism

But on Wednesday, Paul lashed out at his critics once more.

"I'm being criticized for not having proper attribution, and yet they are able to write stuff that if I were their journalism teacher in college, I would fail them," Paul told National Review's Robert Costa.

Darden was not moved by that assessment.

"It appears that the Senator from Kentucky is choosing to attack the messenger rather than specifically address what appears to be an unambiguous case of plagiarism," he said in an email. "Had one of my Journalism students made the same mistakes, I would fail them for each individual assignment and refer the case to the appropriate university office that deals with honor code violations."
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
14. The facts say otherwise.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 07:25 PM
Nov 2013

I get it. He is stupid and cannot zip up his own fly. I still be money he did just what RM says he did.

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