How Democrats Are Helping Chris Christie Become the Next George W. Bush

[xchrom]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jason-sattler/chris-christie-george-w-bush_b_4213702.html

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In 2013, Governor Chris Christie (R-NJ) is trudging down the George W. Bush path to the presidency -- and no one seems to be noticing.

Actually, Democrats appear to be going out of their way to help the governor rack up the kind of landslide with the kind of support from non-white voters that made Bush's nomination inevitable. In unison, it seems, Democrats are refusing to call out how Christie's failed policies that favor the rich, while bullying workers and women, have resulted in an 8.5 percent unemployment rate -- tied with Mississippi and Tennessee for 41st in the nation -- along with little improvement to the state's miserable bond rating.

In fact, the only politicians who have landed any blows on the governor were on Mitt Romney's VP vetting team.

Of course, it's easy to make an argument against Christie becoming the inevitable GOP nominee in 2016.

[JoePhilly]

1. Christie is going to win because he worked effectively with the President after Sandy.

But I do understand the need to figure out why every negative event is the fault of Democrats.

[bigdarryl]

2. PLUS his win here in NJ is a TOTAL JOKE the democrats didn't even contest this race

They spent no money and it was reported that Buono's campaign only had ONE field person in the whole state.I voted for her despite what they said in the polls.

[JoePhilly]

14. And ... NJ politics are always a mess

Always have been.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

60. Yes, and I don't care what anyone says about her. She was a great candidate!!

She was not afraid of Chris Christie. In fact, during the debates, it was HE who seemed fearful of her!!

[bigdarryl]

5. And plus the media has more to do with him being the darling of the media than

What democrats are doing or not doing

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

62. That's true, but again, I still put much of the blame on Jersey state Democrats

who fawned over him. We need to be honest about this. Even many of my father's friends have fallen for the persona of Chris Christie and think that just because he likes Bruce Springsteen and was nice to Barack Obama, he couldn't be that bad.

And what about many black preachers in Newark and the Oranges who welcomed Chris Christie and who pledged to support his candidacy despite his views about race discrimination?

(remember, he believes that the decision to outlaw discrimination should have been left to the states rather than the federal government.)

And what about his views on choice? On LGBT rights? On the unions?

What about his economic views? He believes in reducing taxes on the wealthy. On using public dollars to fund private schools.

Yes, the Democrats embrace this guy despite his rhetoric.

Barbara Buono was LOUD about these things! She was forceful and fought a good fight. And yet, she was drowned out by the Chris Christie lovefest going on, not only in the media, but between traditional Democrats of all races and this guy.

I will never understand it. My heart is broken. Completely broken!

[edhopper]

3. Dems in NJ

are in a bit of disarray after Corzine. The only viable candidate, Booker, decided to be Senator. So there wasn't a lot of support for the Dem candidate in this and the polls showed it as a tough battle. (same thing happened in NYC in Bloomberg's last election)

But on a National level, Christie would get the full force of the Dem party. His negatives are high since he is a corrupt, bullying POS who has damaged his State.

[bigdarryl]

8. That story of him getting into it with that school teacher has gone VIRAL!!

[uponit7771]

4. Sounds like a setup, conservatives wont vote for a NJ liberal front runner

[zeemike]

43. Unless he is running against Hillery.

Them the lesser of the two right wing evils will make them...and they consider Hillery to be as evil as the anti-Christ.

[uponit7771]

70. hmmm, true

[kydo]

6. You know this whole Dems supporting christie has me thinking

Maybe the goal is to have Christie be the rethug nominee 2016. Because while he is a rethug he is not crazy enough to be a bagger. If baggers don't support him and don't show up to the polls. Or if baggers really go nuts and run a 3rd party candidate. All that only strengthens the Dem's.

Also, if the end game is not to have Christie the rethug nominee in 2016, building him up as a centrist will not play with the base and he will never make it through the primaries. But in the process just shows the big gap between just the average bully money oriented re thugs and bat shit crazy Christian zealot baggers. Also a good move in strengthening the Dem base.

I can't stand Christie and I hope he loses. But that's just a dream. My more realistic hope is that it is not a big win but much closer. The Dems really should have helped Buono.

[Myrina]

10. I suspect you may be right ...

... but that wouldn't preclude him coming back for another shot at the Nomination once the TeaNutters are completely vanquished in 2 or 3 more election cycles.

[kydo]

16. No way - the stupid runs strong in baggers sadly

They will be around for a while.

Plus Christie really is a crappy candidate. Lots of corruption baggage. The baggers will go after him with a vengeance, leaving lots of fodder for future elections.

[muriel_volestrangler]

7. A similar comment from Charles Pierce:

The Saga Of Big Chicken: A Continuing Series

If anything drives me out of political blogging before my time, it is not going to be the continuing career of David Brooks. Nor will it be the continuing fantasias of Peggy Noonan, or the fact that Bill Kristol is apparently an incurable TV fungus. I could withstand all of those because it doesn't look like the John Jameson folks are going out of business any time soon. No, what may be the final end is what is looming -- and I do mean looming -- before us: a full two-years of fiery bro-love among the media for Chris Christie, not merely among Republicans looking for a winner, but for Democrats who are prepared once again to fall for a straight-talkin', two-fisted man o' the people who you'd like to have a beer with, who runs up the score in a gubernatorial election, in large part because the national Democratic party abandons the Democratic candidate in the race to the wolverines. (Chris Matthews, to name only one obvious example, is already more than halfway in love.) The last time this happened we got C-Plus Augustus and his bottomless bag of horrors. They simply never will learn.

Chris Christie's only claim to being a Republican "moderate" is that he condescended to accept the president's help when half of Christie's state had been blown out to sea. Beyond that, he's a rich guy who will do what richer guys than he is want him to do. He has a gender gap wider than the Dardenelles. And he doesn't have the political courage god gave a sponge. This brings us to our new continuing series.
...
Now, the real reason. Chris Christie is one big chicken.

A group called Pro-Gun New Hampshire had lobbied against the bills that Christie vetoed, noting that the state is among the first to vote in Republican primaries. The group instructed supporters: "Tell him you're watching with 2016 in mind."

One pissant pressure group in New Hampshire yells, "Boo!" and Chris Christie folds like a lawn chair.

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/chris-christie-is-a-chicken-110413??src=rss

[bullwinkle428]

9. "Compassionate conservative" v2.0.

[stevenleser]

11. The tarring of Northeastern Republicans as "too Liberal" in GOP Prez Primaries is all too easy

And since conservatives are already angry at Christie for working with Obama in the aftermath of Sandy, it makes it all the more easy.

Every conservative strategist knows this playbook by heart. Christie will get destroyed in Iowa and New Hampshire and the Carolinas if his campaign even makes it that far.

The teahadists want Ted Cruz or Rand Paul, and it's easy for them to demagogue Christie.

[bigdarryl]

13. BUT the MEDIA want Christie

That's the problem.They will suck up to him until they get him that nomination MARK MY WORD!!!

[stevenleser]

18. They wanted Giuliani too. "America's Mayor" they called him. 3.5% and 6th place in Iowa in 2008

That's what that gets you.

[lonestarnot]

12. People that do sucking up to that helicopter eater are planning their own demise unless of course

they enjoy slaving for corporate merika.

[Bluenorthwest]

15. It seems that East Coast 'Moderates Democrats' are supporting Christie, they think he's 'Moderate'

because he spoke to Obama on camera. Outside that sad old region that is NY/NJ Christie is about as unappealing and right wing as any candidate to come along in years, mean, snarling, rude and obnoxious, I'd not do any sort of business with a man like him. East Coast centrists Democrats adore him.
He's a homophobic Republican of the classic sort. 'Moderate Democrats' love that they way they all loved Ron Reagan. They never learn.

[stevenleser]

19. They will never support him over Hillary Clinton. But he wont get that far so it doesnt matter. nt

[loudsue]

21. Republicans would love Hillary to get the nomination as much as liberals would

like to see Rand Paul get the nomination.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

63. Yep! That's it!! I don't want to hear any complaints from NONE of them!

Really, I don't want to hear it.

[Rex]

83. That is why I keep one eye on them, Reagan lovers...blech.

They are the extreme of the moderates. They never learn is the truth! Prattle on endlessly about how right they always are (just like when they voted for Reagan and I suspect many voted for Dubya too).

I take what they say with a grain of salt.

[Baitball Blogger]

17. Do you think we're seeing some NJ "Pro Quo?"

[TlalocW]

20. Unless the Tea Partiers and the Religious Nutjobs in the GOP surrender to sanity

And go along with supporting a candidate that has a shot at winning like Christie, he's not going to get out of the primaries because he buddied around with Obama (goodbye Tea Partiers), and he will be seen as giving up the fight against homosexual rights/marriage equality (goodbye Religious Nutjobs).

TlalocW

[FarCenter]

22. The NJ election is all about money. National issues are not in play.

NJ is all about money. Where do tax revenues come from, and where is the state spending the money? Who is making contributions, and who is getting paid off?

Being an off year, there is no voting for Senators and Representatives (since Booker's election was weeks ago), and foreign policy, defense policy, immigration, trade, etc. are not a factor.

Social issues are not much of a factor either, since there are a lot of socially conservative Democrats and a lot of socially liberal Republicans. The Supreme Court just took gay marriage off the table.

[Rowdyboy]

23. I'm much afraid that this article is 100% correct. Christie is Chris Matthews latest "Man Crush"

Last night he refused to allow any of his guests to disagree that Christie was the savior of the Republican party, single-handedly able to bring on a resurgence of reasonable moderate Republicans nationwide. The media eat-up his in-your-face, smartass attitude and his "remarkable ability to connect with the average voter". The meme practically writes itself. Meanwhile, the party drifts ever rightward so that when he's elected in 2016 he'll do a "Full Dubya" and turn from a "compassionate conservative" to a frothing, raging Teabagger in the mold of Ted Cruz.

Then, with a Teabag house and a compliant senate he'll steamroll in fresh tax cuts for business and the wealthy and continue the savaging of the poor and middle classes. With a few supreme court appointments he can effectively determine the next 40 years and undo anything positive we've accomplished under Obama. It makes me sick to my stomach to contemplate but the whole sorry story is unfolding right before our eyes and no one appears to have a clue.

Think he can't get nominated? Just sit back and watch.

[Fumesucker]

28. I agree with you, Tweety is an M$M bellweather if there is such a thing

And Tweety is a sucker for in your face assholes, they send a thrill down his leg.

[Rowdyboy]

37. He still steadfastly promotes the myth of McCain the Moderate Maverick and thought Dubya was the

golden child until practically the entire media establishment turned against him. To use his own crappy expression, Chris Christie has "atty-tude" and all us commoners are supposed to respond to that.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

64. These are the times where I really can't stand Tweety. He's the type of guy

who hates to be on the wrong side of anything. So he'll lick his finger and stick it in the air, and whatever is hip at the time, he jumps on the bandwagon.

Back when we invaded an unarmed Iraq that had nothing to do with the tragedy that occurred on September 11, 2001, he declared that "we're all neocons now!!".

But when the "war" became unpopular, he claimed that he was never for the war and was disgusted that more people in the media didn't speak out against it like HE did!!

[rhett o rick]

80. Tweety is as disingenuous as anyone can be. Dont turn your back on that bastard. nm

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

84. Yep. All he cares about is selling is fucking books!!

[Dawson Leery]

46. Tweets will likely be voting for Christie if he is the nominee in 2016.

[Rowdyboy]

66. No doubt, especially if Hillary is the Democratic nominee....

He's made his dislike of the Clintons clear over the years.

Regardless of who we pick, if Christie gets in Tweets will cheerlead all the way.

[Dawson Leery]

67. These days, I turn off MSNBC at 7 pm and turn it back on at 8.

[Rowdyboy]

69. Don't blame you a bit...And its only going to get worse....

I'm just glad McCain won't be running again. The adulation Matthews shows to the "Maverick" is enough to turn your stomach. McCain hasn't taken even a slightly "maverick" stance since 2003 but don't try to make that point. He won't hear you (not that Matthews ever hears much of anyone except himself).

[Dawson Leery]

71. Right wing media has already picked up on Tweets assault on a Democratic strategist.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/5/msnbcs-chris-matthews-skewers-dem-guest-flackery/

http://freebeacon.com/chris-matthews-goes-off-on-dsccs-mark-cecil-for-spinning-upcoming-christie-win/

[Pretzel_Warrior]

24. 3 years away, people!!!

Neither Christie nor HRC have announced they are even exploring the path of running for president.

I think we've got time to point out how RW that buffoon is.

[Beacool]

25. Christie is my governor.

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As the article below points out, the man is highly overrated.

"Yes, he’s a skilled politician and a talented deal-maker who, for his first two years in office, got nearly everything he wanted from the Democratic Legislature.

But it hasn’t worked. New Jersey’s economy is a mess, even compared with its neighbors. The property tax burden is up sharply. Poverty is rising. And the state’s credit rating has dropped on Christie’s watch as the long-range outlook deteriorates. His successor will inherit a bigger mess than he did.

Crime is spiking in several of New Jersey’s hard-pressed cities, where loss of state aid has forced massive police layoffs. The state’s home foreclosure rate is the second highest in the nation and Christie fumbled a federal aid program intended to soften the blow. Yet he tried to raid a fund earmarked for affordable housing until the courts stopped him.

The list goes on. The state’s open space program is essentially dead, with no money and no ideas from the governor on how to fix it. The transportation trust fund is broke as well, so the governor has financed projects mostly by borrowing and by scavenging money that former Gov. Jon Corzine had set aside for the Hudson River tunnel project, which Christie canceled."

http://blog.nj.com/njv_tom_moran/2013/09/post_13.html

I fail to understand his appeal. He's not a moderate, but in the crazy atmosphere that we live in, compared to the Tea Party crowd he sounds like a liberal. I'm upset at so many Democrats (some of them politicians) who are supporting him. He's going to win today by a landslide, therefore setting himself as the "sane" Republican candidate for 2016.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

27. Thank you!! Today my heart breaks into a million pieces!! :(

[Beacool]

51. Mine too and I'm angry!!

He's going to win by a large margin thanks to the Democrats who are going to be voting for him. If more Democrats would have supported Buono, then his margin would have been smaller. He still would have won, but his prospects for 2016 would have been in doubt.

[Fumesucker]

30. You say that like it's a bad thing

You're thinking like a sane human being, not a Republican.

[loveandlight]

38. my governor too

I also fail to understand his appeal. And with all this info on what has gone wrong in our state since he's been governor, the only thing gone right is the money made by his cohorts, including the Democrats supporting him right now in NJ. They are all about the money and power, not anything about what would be good for the state and the people. I lived through Reagan as my governor back in the day and then president. I lived through the horror of Bush jr. And now through all these years of the Christie machine. I don't know if I can even stand thinking about him going far outside of NJ. I have to believe the rest of the country will throw him under the bus when they really see who he is. But that assumes the media will not play him up as they did Bush and fool too many people. Yikes! We've got some tough politics ahead for the next round.

[Beacool]

52. The media will play him up.

They like the power to be "king makers". I can't stand to look at the guy, he's rude, obnoxious and a bully.

Which means that if he somehow manages to become the Republican nominee, we better have someone who can kick ass just as well as he can.

[calimary]

50. Kicking for this post in particular!

He's a bully. Sorry, but I just don't warm to "in-yer-face." I don't like that personality trait or technique or whatever you call it. Confrontational just for the sake of being confrontational. He's unfortunately a master at "in-yer-face." It's NEVER been appealing to me - I find it extremely off-putting. And I'd sure as hell hate to have to deal with it for four-to-eight years. Loudmouthed in-yer-face bullying lout. Oh gee, just what I'm looking for. People mistake this kind of always-on-offense poking-the-finger-in-yer-face thuggish, loutish behavior as some sort of folksy common-touch "plain-speaking" schtick. And it's just bullshit. He's nothing but a bully on a much bigger playground. And lots of weaklings are falling in love with him. Like chris matthews, for one. A street-weenie always looking for the toughie to sidle up to so he won't get smacked around by the neighborhood punks and ruffians.

He scares the daylights out of me!

[Beacool]

54. Yes, he's a bully.

I never thought that his schtick was endearing. I don't do well with people who get in my face, I tend to respond in kind.

As for Matthews, I can't stand the sniveling, sexist, SOB!!!! He always gets his man crushes: Bush, Obama, I guess now Christie. I'll never forget, nor forgive, the sexist crap he said about Hillary in 2008.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

26. I'm sorry, but it IS NJ Democrats who are helping Chris Christie. House and Senate

Democrats did nothing to stop Chris Christie from tearing away at public education. They went right along with him. NJ Democrats did nothing to stop Chris Christie from going after public unions--cops, teachers, fire fighters. They went right along with him. NJ Democrats did nothing to stop Chris Christie from refusing to help fund infrastructure projects; his rejection of the Port Authority cost NJ millions of potential jobs. Democrats just sat there looking stupid!

Just because Chris Christie may have shaken Obama's hand or said something that was seemingly tolerant towards a nominee of the Muslim faith does not make him a moderate. Chris Christie is NOT a moderate. He is a Republican governor of a BLUE, Democratic Party state. He has to work with Democrats in his state. That doesn't make him a moderate. It forces him to work with the other part because that's the political reality of that state!

I blame no one but the Democratic Party. Regardless of how bad Corzine was, he was nowhere near as awful as Chris Christie.

This is just the beginning. Once Christie is reelected, wait and see how far to the right he moves. He's going to leap so far rightwards, it'll make our collective heads spin.

I, for one, don't want to hear any complaints from NJ Democrats who voted for him, either.

[KamaAina]

57. Millions of potential jobs?

There are around nine million people in the state. You must have meant "millions of potential dollars" or "tens of thousands of potential jobs", or both.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

68. Yeah. I'm being hyperbolic. That's what I mean. Thousands of jobs! :)

See...

My anger is getting the best of me.

[boomersense]

29. I think you are right. I don't talk much politics

anymore because people get mad, but I have heard quite a few claimed Democrats say they might vote for Christie for President if he runs in 2016. As others have said here, it is early to make projections, but I do think he will be the Republican candidate and the Republicans this time will be solidly behind him. How he fares depends on the success of ACA, who attacks Iran and immigration. I put the chance of a Republican getting in now at 35 per cent.

[Fumesucker]

33. Welcome to DU!

I haven't talked to anyone about Christie specifically but I know a lot of people who don't really think of themselves as conservatives who would and will fall for him in a moment once he becomes well known enough to show up on their radar.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

44. If he adopts the "(D)" label, there is a readily available supply of swooners.

[boomersense]

65. Thanks. I've enjoyed your posts.........nt

ffff

[gopiscrap]

31. Damnit we need to slime the shit out of that fucker

[fredamae]

32. If HRC wins the

Primary--how long will it take for Christie to "Lose it" in public at her?
He's undisciplined. He'd be a Nightmare in dealing with world leaders...
No. Never. He might be acceptable to NJ Dems, but on the National stage? lol (I hope)

[Fumesucker]

35. "There's an old saying in Tennessee—I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee -

—that says, 'Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.'"

"Losing it in public" at Hillary will help Christie's popularity more than it will hurt it.

[fredamae]

40. You think so?

I have a hard time seeing that happen on the national stage...
Not that it couldn't--sadly - Every time I tell myself they can't get more out of touch/off base/outrageous crazy? They do.

[woo me with science]

34. +1 Always watch the long game.

The relevant battle is less and less about Red versus Blue and more and more about Corporatists versus The Rest of Us.

[edhopper]

36. And

cancelling the NY-NJ rail tunnel was one of the most short sighted, stupidest moves in recent years, cost NJ thousands of jobs and guaranteed years of transit hell for the people of NJ. (but he loves giving money to AC casinos and the Meadowlands boondoggle)

[watoos]

39. Christie has a lot of baggage to get the Pres. nomination.

I want to see who Rove backs. If Rove backs Christie then his baggage will be minimized by the M$M.
I still see Jeb hiding in the bushes.

[Beacool]

55. I would like to see the Romney campaign files on Christie.

[libdem4life]

56. I suspect Jeb is allowing Christie to flesh out the mood and tone of current Republicans so he'll

know at which point to position himself.

[liberal_at_heart]

41. democrats may be in trouble if Chris Christie wins the nom. He is a fighter. Democrats are not that

great at fighting. We need someone like Warren who could and would go toe to toe with him in an argument.

[Dopers_Greed]

42. Crisco is going to be tough in 2016

The M$M are promoting him heavily and hyping his "bipartisanship" (which just means that he didn't completely fuck up disaster response like Dubya and "Heckuva Job" Brownie did)

What could be his undoing is the Baggers running a third party candidate, but I doubt the Corptocracy will allow that to happen.

[Ian_rd]

45. Not quite dubya

Bush saw Katrina as an inconvenience to his nap time that might possibly be turned into a good PR moment.

Christie saw Sandy as a disaster that required leadership and effort.

Christie has plenty of negatives, but ain't no W.

[Vashta Nerada]

47. Can we get through 2014 before we talk about 2016 please?

By the time election day 2016 comes around, I'm going to be so sick and tired of it.

[Drunken Irishman]

48. Chris Christie is Rudy Giuliani 2.0.

I don't think he will be viable among the Republican base. The Republicans view him similarly to how Democrats viewed Joe Lieberman in 2004 - there might be some support ... but it's not enough to win. I don't see him viable in Iowa.

And the reality is, the last GOP poll there from Iowa put Christie 5th - just barely above the loser Santorum.

[DirtyDawg]

49. Who cares...

...it's just New Jersey. When he runs for POTUS we'll kick his fat ass back to Hoboken then.

[mainstreetonce]

53. My very liberal associates

In NJ are voting for Christie.

[PeteSelman]

58. People love his loudmouth bully act.

He'll pull a ton of blue collar Democrats because of the nonsense he pulls with the screaming and bullying. I've spoken to countless people on jobsites that love his schtick, they consider him to be honest and a ballsy fighter. He doesn't have to be right on any issue as long as he defends it strong.

He's big trouble for us. I think he wins if he gets by the primary.

[xchrom]

59. ye -- i do think he's trouble. nt

[arthritisR_US]

61. What a bunch of fecking idiots!

[Rowdyboy]

72. As the day continues, the undeserved accolades just keep piling on. New Jersey voters have created

a fucking monster and we're all likely to pay the price.

Oh, and a sizeable share of the blame also lies with the national Democratic party and its leaders. If the same people who have worked their asses off for McAuliff had done the same for Buono he likely still would have won but it would have been a damn sight closer and much less would have been read into it. Now we'll hearing the meme that he's the inevitable, unbeatable nominee who can unite the party and return cooperative government starting about 7:15pm tonight.

[Dawson Leery]

74. Tweety has already started this nonsense.

[spanone]

73. if the gop tries to run christie in 2016 it will split the party....let it be

the nutcases will not allow it

[IronLionZion]

75. We can beat this loudmouth

His behavior doesn't play as well outside of NJ.

[Rowdyboy]

77. I didn't think that that folky cowboy George W. Bush stood a chance against a smart, qualified guy

like Al Gore. I didn't think a nutcase like Ronald Reagan could possibly beat a good man running for re-election. Never, ever underestimate the ability of the American electorate to fall for the flavor of the week.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

76. Are you saying the U.S. Supreme Court is going to appoint him President?

[DonCoquixote]

78. The ugly truth

Cory Booker is a centrist that hates the left. He got support to take the seat from the late, truly GREAT, Frabnk Lautenberg, last of the liberals.

Hillary is also centrist.

I short, this is about making sure 2016 is centrist vs centrist, to make sure that whoever wins gives wall street what they want, but can still pretend they are 'reasonable'.

[Jamaal510]

81. It'll be more like "centrist vs. pseudo-centrist".

Christie is no centrist. He has governed about as far-right as they come, opposing minimum wage increases, voting rights, gay rights, and top tax hikes. He only became to be seen as the Mr. Moderate of the GOP once he worked with the President during the storm, and whenever he gets compared to even more unyielding Republicans like Cruz and Paul.

[rhett o rick]

79. If Christie wins the nomination for the presidency, it might help progressives.

As I see it, Christie and Ms. Clinton arent that far apart. If Christie gets the nomination, I think many of the sudo-Democrats will switch back to Republicanism and go with Christie. These are the idiots that, if in the Democratic Party would support Ms. Clinton. If Christie runs it will hurt Clinton. Yeah.

[Divine Discontent]

82. hey xchrom, I was gonna post something similar, I'll just reply to your quicker post

I totally agree! Christie is a cult of personality and 'interesting', but he is a soft appearing guy who harbors RW views, and is not something we want to encourage. The Democratic Party should have fought to beat him down in the polls in NJ, even if he would end up winning 52-54% or so, letting him win by about 18 points is ridiculous. He is NOT representative of NJ views as a whole! We will regret it if he's the next president, and shaking our head because he wins by a couple of electoral votes but loses the popular vote. I don't think it will happen, but it sure is possible, viewing the past.



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[WillyT]

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