White men & women are the problem.

[Drunken Irishman]

I say this as a white dude.

Obama lost white men 62-34 to Romney in 2012. He lost white women 56-42 (roughly the same margin he lost in '08) - even though he won women overall 55-44. To contrast, Obama won black men (with 87%), Latino men (with 65%) along with black women (with 96%) and Latino women (with 76%).

In Virginia, McAuliffe lost the white male vote 58-33 and the white female vote 54-38. White women voted for the anti-choice, reactionist, woman hating Cuccinelli.

Black men and women went overwhelmingly to McAuliffe - he won them 90-10 and 91-7 respectively.

Women generally vote Democratic - minority women, that is.

White women? They've abandoned the party along side white men (and to put that into perspective: Gore lost the white women vote by one-point in 2000 and I'm sure Clinton managed to win it in the 90s).

It's less about gender, and continues more to be about the growing diversity of America. For whatever reason, white women are aligning with white men as the Republican's base.

[bullwinkle428]

1. And you can also throw in the Christie race to see the same demographic breakdown.

http://www.nytimes.com/projects/elections/2013/general/new-jersey/exit-polls.html

[FarCenter]

18. The biggest shift to Christie was among Hispanic Women, then Black Men

Its possible that white, professional, suburban women candidates may not be so attractive to Hispanics and blacks.

[upaloopa]

2. No the White men and women that vote repub are

the problem. I'm tired of your white people are the problem meme. Empty words

[Drunken Irishman]

3. My meme?

I didn't know I had discussed this in the past?

But yeah, they are the problem. The stats kinda back that up (no, not empty words).

[kcr]

4. Why are you tired of the facts?

The facts are more white people vote repub. I say this as a white person. I don't get why white people get so offended by the mere mention of these facts. It's the cold, hard truth. More of us vote repub. It's the truth.

[upaloopa]

21. The OP is not a fact

What I posted is a fact

[kcr]

22. If they aren't facts

Then post how they're in error. Post the real numbers someone is hiding somewhere that show more white people vote Dem. I'm not sure where you'll find those, however.

[cali]

51. because it's bullshit in the same sense that most generalizations are bullshit

and as a white person in one of the whitest states in the country where Obama had his largest margin of victory of any state other than HI, can tell you that it's not a "hard cold fact". Not here and not in lots of states. duh.

[kcr]

56. But it's not a generalization

It is a fact. More white people vote Republican, and numbers show that. Not duh.

[cali]

69. oh yes it is a generalization to claim that white people are the problem

and furthermore it's dim. It's selective and it paints all white people as complicit.

It's the same sort of bullshit as this:

http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/22/viewpoint-dont-ignore-race-in-christopher-lanes-murder/

[kcr]

71. Reverse racism! Reverse racism!

Barf. I'll start worrying about painting all white people as complicit when every time someone even so much as says boo about any issue of race, there isn't a bunch of them coming out screeching about their hurt feelings. In other words, likely never.

[Retrograde]

45. Older and more conserative voters are more likely to get out and vote

I'd like to see breakdowns of how many registered voters in each precinct (or county, if that's easier) cast ballots. Then I'd like to see the age breakdown of the the voters - in my state birth date is required on a voter application, so the number of votes cast by age bracket can be derived and the percentage of that bracket that voted.

I suspect it will come back to the old "younger voters don't show up for non-presidential elections" refrain, which is why I'm not overly optimistic about 2014.

[Decaffeinated]

5. Racist and broad brush...

Double points...

[Fumesucker]

6. Do you have some explanation for caucasians who don't vote Republican?

[bluestate10]

17. They tend to be better educated, Urban or near city Suburban and younger. nt

[Fumesucker]

20. I've always enjoyed being a statistical anomaly n/t

[Brigid]

54. Me too.

I don't vote Republican because I don't vote for idiots and I don't vote against my best interests. I can do very little about those who do.

[treestar]

31. Drunken's point is the majority vote Republican

Why people are getting their panties in a twist is a mystery.

The statistics show what percentages of white men and women voted Democratic. It's just that they were a minority.

[Fumesucker]

39. I think playing the "divide us up according to color" game is not smart in the long run

Personally I try to see everyone as individuals, sad that some DUers don't think that way.

[hfojvt]

94. maybe because it would be both nicer and more true

to say "white men and women are an important part of our coalition"

instead of "white men and women are the problem."

Otherwise it tends to not motivate somebody to remain in the coalition when the coalition's message seems to be "people like you are the problem".

[alcibiades_mystery]

7. Result of alert, FYI

At Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:03 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

White men & women are the problem.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023990340

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

Under what conceivable circumstances is it ok to say that (insert race here) is the problem with America. The fact that you are white doesn't make it any less bigoted or ignorant.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:07 AM, and the Jury voted 1-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I think the OP was referring to winning and losing elections not "the problem with America". You read into the OP something that wasn't there alerter.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: maybe he's right
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Reverse racism? On DU? Really?
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT and said: Was going back and forth on this one...

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[HappyMe]

9. I can't believe somebody alerted.

I'm glad it got left. Facts - not just for breakfast anymore.

[Number23]

80. This is America and this is DU. I can TOTALLY believe that somone alerted on this as well as the

panicked hyperventilating posts in this thread.

It has long been established that every single ethnic group can be microscoped but white people. These folks alerting and screaming are just trying to keep up with the program.

[lumberjack_jeff]

8. One of the biggest demographics we should be trying to reach is minority men.

If you register a black man to vote, you odds are 9:1 that he's going to vote for a Democrat, and minority men are significantly less likely to vote than minority women.

Outreach to whites, men or women, is counterproductive. Women only slightly less so than men.

[treestar]

19. I think I agree

My reaction to those statistics is : register the nonwhite people! Focus on getting them registered and voting rather than trying to get white Republicans voters convinced. Fighting the effects of voter suppression laws - if the ID laws get passed somewhere, help the nonwhite voters get their IDs together. It's just clerical stuff (but harder to get done for minorities, so we can help).

[HappyMe]

26. Yup.

They are the first to be disenfranchised and discounted.

[Mojorabbit]

10. Why are white women not voting Dem?

Surely someone has looked into this?

[YoungDemCA]

62. Marriage, religion, false sense of security?

[hopemountain]

68. perhaps it is only

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white women married to white men or their christian church?

i also wonder about the education level of the women and their vote.

[joeglow3]

70. I would think white women married to white women would be democrats

[treestar]

73. lol, I think that was a typo

[hopemountain]

100. thank you, treestar….corrected nt

[Initech]

11. Pass the butter please.

[yuiyoshida]

12. When they do these studies...

Do they ever include Asians any more?

[bluestate10]

16. Yes. But the various Ethnic groups that fall under the "Asian" banner are still

small in number when compared to Blacks and Hispanics. But, Asians too vote heavily Democrat. I think the percentage of Blacks is interesting, that part of the electorate hasn't grown much in 45 years, likely because of deaths, inter-marriage and a birthrate that is close to that of Whites.

[okaawhatever]

23. The Asians voted 77% for Obama in 2012. That's a higher percentage than the Latinos, of course

you didn't hear a lot about that because it didn't fit the talking points.

[RZM]

38. What the hell?

A major talking point was that a diverse electorate re-elected Obama. That fits perfectly.

[okaawhatever]

43. I meant the right-wing media talking points. They said it was Obamaphones and free government stuff

that appealed to the Obama voters. That Obama voters were the lazy takers of the world. The racists would have a hard time explaining how the Asians voted for Obama since their stereotype is hard-working small business owner. that's why it wasn't mentioned on Fox news and the other rw sources. The rwnj are all wrong, blacks and latinos aren't lazy and looking for a handout but Fox news and their ilk were appealing to the racists of the world. The Asian stereotype didn't fit their narrative.

[jeff47]

46. You didn't hear about it because they were 3% of voters.

http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/elections/how_groups_voted/voted_12.html

[yuiyoshida]

63. Kinda like DU... betting there are very few

of us here. Wish there were more!

[LittleBlue]

59. It's no surprise that they vote overwhelmingly D

IMO they tend not to get caught up in Biblical nonsense and are more practical in my experience.

[trublu992]

13. Thank God for Black people.

In conservative Christian communities women will vote the way their husbands vote.

I know I grew up in one. What's great about these election results is that minority votes count

and they can make the difference and I don't think we people of color really understood that before.

I think if Hilary runs he'll get more of the white female vote. I'm interested in the young voting numbers

[Nye Bevan]

29. Thank God for Hispanics too.

They also vote Democratic.

[trublu992]

50. Yep they sure do and were grateful for all people of color who vote their experience.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

67. Too bad it didn't help with Prop 8

Sadly, everyone has their moments where they have to hang their head.

[Number23]

81. Wow. Just... wow

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

83. Yeah, I was shocked and disappointed too.

[Number23]

84. 'Wow' that you're shoveling out a five year old incident in order to smear black Democrats/people

You should read this http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Black-support-for-Prop-8-called-exaggeration-3177138.php

ETA: And maybe this could clear up a bit of your "confusion" as well http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1187&pid=1677 the whole thread is a great read

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

85. I'm actually smearing all people, I didn't even stipulate they were Democrats

I'm white and I've never voted for a Republican....have you?

There is no single group you can say hasn't made an absolutely stupid decision in an election.

I think it's completely fair to point out a majority of whites vote Republican, just as it's completely fair to, even using your revised numbers, a good majority of African Americans chose to vote down gay marriage in larger numbers than other groups. Why don't you want hear about it?

[Number23]

86. In a thread talking about white people's insistence on voting Republican even to their own detriment

You decide to chirp up with the LONG discredited smear that black folks supported Prop 8 by 70%. And that was one vote in one state whereas DI's post is about white people's voting patterns NATIONALLY and over an extended period of time.

The real question is 'why are you trying so hard to change the subject'?

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

88. The real question is who's gonna cast the first stone?

What I really like you to do is explain how it is long discredited and smear....you're apparently fine with 58% of African Americans supporting prop 8, as much as you think I'm fine with 50-some percent of whites voting Republican.

Everyday on this board, there are a zillion threads asking what is wrong with white people? Post one question about Prop 8, and you my friend, decide to hyperventilate.

[Number23]

90. There were so many threads about black folks and Prop 8 that I am simply astonished that you appear

to have missed them all. But you appear to have also missed the myriad articles noting that the 70% number was overblown as well, so maybe it's not all that surprising.

Gay marriage was passed in Washington DC which has a much higher proportion of black voters than California and this happened alot more recently than the failure of Prop8. But it's so interesting that you didn't decide to bring that up. You also seemed to have conveniently overlooked that gay marriage has failed in several states with hardly any black populations at all.

Considering that how white people vote impacts many more people, there are not NEARLY as many threads here discussing why so many whites are voting against their interests. And when one does come up, someone always invariably tries to change the subject. See this thread.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

91. I have always talked about whites voting against their best interests

They (low income whites) have been trained by the GOP to think "If you can't pay for it, you didn't earn it, and you didn't deserve it".

We all know the numbers. I want to get past that and ask WHY and HOW WE CAN CHANGE IT on ALL THESE ISSUES. Pushing politics in church is the first problem.

[Number23]

92. Funny. I find ignoring an issue in order to change the subject and scapegoat and smear others

that have nothing to do with the subject at hand to be a most peculiar way to tackle a particular problem.

But you do what you feel is best.

[joshcryer]

104. That's a shitty myth.

So what did account for the results of the vote? “Party identification, age, religiosity and political view had much bigger effects than race, gender or having gay and lesbian family and friends,

http://www.salon.com/2009/01/09/race_prop8/

Also, see here: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/07/656272/-Facts-Belie-the-Scapegoating-of-Black-People-for-Proposition-8

[Number23]

114. That Kos diary is great. Hopefully it was (and will be) read by those who need it.

[bluestate10]

14. The problem is as the nation become more diverse, it doesn't matter what most White

women do with their votes. The number of educated, open minded White men and women sit at around 35% and 38% of the White electorate, those two groups tend to be liberal, educated and open minded, they provide a firewall for progressive policymaking. As the percentage on minority voters increase, republicans will either have to start legislating for those minority groups, or somehow convince progressive minded White to vote with less open minded Whites, a truly hard sell.

[quinnox]

15. Not buying it

There are plenty of good white people. It is simple minded to say "whites are the evil ones and the problem!"

[Nye Bevan]

24. Apparently even Alan Grayson votes Republican.

He can't help it. His whiteness seizes control of him when he enters the voting booth. It's like a curse that possesses people.

[BainsBane]

28. He cites vote numbers

Do you understand basic percentages? 67% is not 100%.

[Nye Bevan]

32. I guess "58% of whites and 10% of blacks are the problem"

just doesn't have the same ring to it

[BainsBane]

34. There is a lesson here

Time for the party to stop taking women and people of color for granted, since we are the majority of their voters.

[penultimate]

25. How about white men and women are the solution...not the final one though.

Get those white folk to vote the correct way and they become the solution to all of America's problems.

[HappyMe]

37. That's becoming more and more

of a beat your head against the wall proposition.

Since everybody votes, it's time to focus on greener pastures I think.

[Niceguy1]

78. especially

When people have written them off as too stupid to bother with...see posts above.

I think we should see what they are interested in and work to earn their votes..if we can convert them we can build sustainable majorities.

[Union Scribe]

27. Please constrain your self-loathing

to yourself.

[BainsBane]

30. single white women vote Democratic

married white women vote Republican. That's statistically speaking. Obviously everyone doesn't vote that way.

[hfojvt]

42. that's strange

because Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton are both married white women.

Who knew that they were voting Republican?

And Ann Coulter is single. Apparently voting Democratic.

[BainsBane]

48. How is it that basic percentages are too complicated for many here?

Try looking at a 3rd or 4th grade math book. I was very clear that I was speaking statistically. Why reading is too much for you, I have no idea.

[kcr]

58. I don't understand why so many get upset when it's mentioned.

It would be nice if it weren't so. But facts are facts. It does no good to bury our heads in the sand.

[hfojvt]

93. is that really how one speaks statistically?

I mean, I know people do it all the time, but personally I find it very annoying.

To say "single white women vote Democratic" when what you acutally MEAN is (A MAJORITY) of single white women vote Democratic. But for some reason you think it is okay to leave out the qualifier, and that it is still (somehow) an accurate statement without the qualifier.

Is 50.001% of group X doing something the SAME as "X does this"?

Because I don't think it is, and because lots and lots of single white women vote Republican and lots and lots of married white women vote Democratic.

And you think it is somehow stupid of me to object to the way you talk, well my whole objection is to say that it is stupid the way you talk. It would be better for you to make true statements than to make false ones and then object and call people stupid when they point out that what you said was wrong.

The other fact of the matter is that something like 53% of McAuliffe's vote came from - white people. So, again, it is stupid to say that the majority of his voters are "the problem".

[BlueCheese]

33. I'm wary of demographic division.

I'm not white, and I don't like to see white people described as "the problem", though I know you only meant it in the sense of an electoral obstacle for Democrats.

There are lots of reasons people might vote one way or another. What happens when you control for income level, or rural/urban, or region of the country, or religion?

[JaneyVee]

35. Don't do it.

[Mr Dixon]

36. SHM

Wow is this true are there links? If this true then that is very sad. I can only assume fear is the key explanation.

[BeyondGeography]

40. It's a never-ending whitemare

[okaawhatever]

41. The gop has made a concerted effort to label the Democratic party as the party of minorities. That

info I saw or read in the media so it's not my opinion. Among white women, married white women typically vote Republican and divorced, working and single white women vote Democratic. I also read somewhere the only group that doesn't vote in large enough numbers to sway elections is single women with children. It made me think about ways to get that voting block out. How many single moms can wait in line for four or five hours to vote? They're often busy with work, kids school, parenting and other things to participate in politics.

[Arugula Latte]

44. 100 percent vote-by-mail like we have here in Oregon would help with that.

[icymist]

47. Do you have any idea how offended I am about such a blanket statement?

If you want to know the real problem with voting, it's apathy. To say that it's all the white peoples' fault about why there isn't enough Dems elected is, well scapegoating. Do what you can to help to get people to vote in the first place, don't go placing blame on the portion of the group that did get out and vote! Take the county where I live as an example: Kitsap, Washington state. Only 27% voted in this last election. Let's break it down like this: 27,000 registered voters voted while 73,000 did not. This was despite the fact that Washington state has mail in ballots only; that not only did they get the ballot delivered to their home weeks in advance, 73,000 registered voters felt it to be too much trouble to fill it out, put a stamp on it, and drop it in the fucking mail! You want to help get more Dems elected? Figure out how to get 73,000 voters in a county that with a history of sending Dems to the House to just plain participate! Instead, it looks like a GOP state senator got elected, by just 730 some votes!

[cali]

49. ugly, racist and no links

nothing.



I live in one of the whitest states in the country and we voted more heavily for Obama- twice- than any other state in the country save HI.

and I actually have the links to prove it because I don't make claims without evidence- unlike YOU.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Vermont,_2012

[Drunken Irishman]

98. LOL @ you calling me racist...

Anyway, just to shut you up...

http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#val=USP00p1

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2013/images/11/05/va.gov.exit.polls.1120p.110513.v2.final[1].copy.pdf

[uponit7771]

105. I saw the same numbers as the OP on MSNBC, I don't think its racist to point out the break in number

...numbers but I do think the numbers from the north are relevant because it looks like it's a southern thing

[JI7]

52. i would be interested in the Ages of these White Voters

i'm guessing most of these white voters were older and that younger ones tended to vote Democratic.

but if you go by state there are many where majority of white men and women voted Democratic. most of these were very blue states also.

[Arugula Latte]

53. White woman here. Not offended. Agree with you.

[lumberjack_jeff]

55. When women marry, they tend to adopt the voting pattern of their husbands.

For this reason, I don't think gender identity politics is a useful strategy.

Better to preach economic populism. People can understand the benefit to their family unambiguously.

[treestar]

72. Is there any proof of that?

Especially nowadays. Why would a 21st century woman change to vote as her husband would, if he votes differently?

Only the fundies would do that, and they would have voted Repub before they married.

[lumberjack_jeff]

79. 31% of single women voted for Romney. 53% of married women voted for him.

That's a 23% swing - the only difference is marital status.

Men were also more likely to vote for Romney if they were married but the differential was much smaller (7%)

Both men and women become less likely to vote Democratic once they marry.

http://www.city-journal.org/2012/eon1116kh.html

Proof? No. Evidence, yes.

[treestar]

95. That doesn't mean they are doing it to follow their husbands

They still have minds of their own.

[lumberjack_jeff]

96. True enough.

Mine is a working theory.

Right or wrong, I think it is important to ask ourselves why. These are people who start out as democrats, but abandon it.

Like all of us, I don't understand why the people who have the most to lose to republican governance are the ones to embrace it.

[athena]

74. That's exactly the reason women were not allowed to vote!

The argument was that they would vote the same way as their husbands.

Perhaps you'd like to take away the right to vote from married women?

FWIW, I don't think you are correct. There are lots of counter-examples. My husband, for example, has become much more progressive since meeting me.

[LittleBlue]

57. I find this astonishing

In Virginia, McAuliffe lost the white male vote 58-33 and the white female vote 54-38.

The vote is so polarized by race it's unbelievable. Even white women will vote overwhelmingly for teabaggers.

Thanks to all the minorities who voted to keep that state sane.

[Brigid]

60. I think you're talking to the wrong white people here.

[YoungDemCA]

61. The white women that vote Republican tend to be older, married women

You can't tell me that they aren't influenced by their husbands. Just an anecdotal example: my step-grandmother was never as conservative as she became when she married my arch-Republican grandfather.

By contrast, single white women are pretty overwhelmingly Democratic, IIRC.

[Lizzie Poppet]

64. This white woman has NEVER been polled about her vote.

Not ever...

Would you happen to know just what level of statistical confidence exists for the distribution numbers for these elections?

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

65. I'm just curious

Did you post a similar a thread when Prop 8 passed? The exit polls showed African Americans voted 70-30 in favor while whites went 49-51.

Just askin'.

[Number23]

82. Wow. Again.

Seems that you may need to read this. http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Black-support-for-Prop-8-called-exaggeration-3177138.php

[Jamaal510]

66. OT, but one recurring question that I have about these studies is

why they include Latinos alongside actual racial groups, when a person of any color can be Latino (e.g. David Ortiz and Shakira). IMO, it sort of creates a bunch of confusion that contributes to many people's inability to distinguish between race and ethnic background. On the Census, Latino/Hispanic is not included in the racial question, yet so many people still think it is a racial group like how Blacks, Whites, Asians, and Native Americans are.

[athena]

75. It could just be a correlation.

It's hard to generalize about an entire race when turnout rates are so low. Perhaps more conservative whites vote than liberal whites. Indeed, liberals tend to be poorer than conservatives, so it wouldn't be surprising that liberal white people are poorer than conservative white people. Fewer poor people vote in general. Moving Election Day to a weekend would help immensely.

[SpartanDem]

76. SOUTHERN WHITE MEN AND WOMAN are the problem

outside of the south the democrats are 50/50 with white men and generally win women

[former9thward]

87. You will have to add most of the West to your region bashing.

[SpartanDem]

112. Umm polls tells a different story

Democrats do exceptionally poor in the South with the white vote compared to rest of the country.



One of these bars is not like the other. Obviously Democrats could stand to do better with white voters in the West and Midwest, but the real reason for their poor national showing among whites is the South. Overall, Obama won about 46 percent of the white vote outside the South and 27 percent of the white vote in the South. That's a difference of nearly 20 points. In other words: Democrats don't have a white problem. They have a Southern white problem, and that's a whole different thing. The press should be more careful about how they report this.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/11/democrats-southern-white-problem

[former9thward]

113. Umm your own graph tells it all.

The only place in the country where whites vote majority Democratic is in the NE and even there it is just barely a majority.

[SpartanDem]

115. Yes it does

and the South is significantly more hostile to Democrats compared to other regions in the country

[NoOneMan]

77. humans are the problem

[CobaltBlue]

89. Consider state after state

I won't go over a series of numbers; but to talk about this nationally isn't enough.

Barack Obama received 43 percent of the white vote in 2008.

Obama received 39 percent of the white vote in 2012.

Nationally.

And nationally in 2008 the size of the white vote was 74 percent and the size of the white vote in 2012 was 72 percent.

Do some multiplying (while having gathered other racial demographics' numbers).


In the south, Obama was in the 10s in Alabama, Louisiana, and Mississippi in 2008. (Just 31 states were polled in 2012; many are ones from this area not included for state-by-state exit polls.)

The south has a way of weighting down the average.

But I look at Iowa as critical. This bellwether state has over 90 percent of the size of the vote cast by whites. And in both 2008 and 2012, they carried for Barack Obama. That meant immediate likewise carriage of the state in both elections. And when Democrats win the White House … Iowa carries.

[cemaphonic]

103. Yeah, Obama carried the white vote in WA and OR handily

And both are states with large white majorities that tend toward Democratic reps and progressive policies. Obama got nearly 70% of the vote in King County, which is both ~70% white and fairly affluent. Like most of the political cleavage in the US, it's more of an urban vs rural split than white vs. minorities - it just happens that much of rural America is overwhelmingly white.

[uponit7771]

106. Really good point, it's a southern thing then...

[CobaltBlue]

110. Maryland

Maryland is one of those states Barack Obama didn't carry the white vote. And he won the state both times with more than a 25-point margin in each election.

Part of this has to do with background of the voting electorates. And then, of course, the size of the vote from each demographic with statewide and nationwide levels.

The base states from the Republicans are in the south. The base states for the Democrats are in the north. (By the south, I'm referring to Old Confederacy as starting point without looking at other areas. With the north, I'm referring to Rust Belt states and going further east as part of the coalition of the original Republican party when they won their first presidential election with Abraham Lincoln in 1860. The two brands of today's two major political parties exchanged identities.)

If you count them out, 40 elections of Republicans-vs.-Democrats (1856 to 2012), more wins were had from candidates whose party base states were not in the south but in the north. That is yet one more reason to feel encouraged for today's Democratic party.

[Corruption Inc]

97. LOL, being white must really eat at you then

Tell everyone just what you hate about the white race, that'll be interesting, NOT!

[Corruption Inc]

99. I did a little research, way beyond you I suspect and, it was actually the (R)s fault

Ya see, way off in internet land there's a thing called "google". There I discovered a local TV station called "NBC". "NBC" pointed out that the (R) candidate wanted to restrict voter rights, directly targeting the minority populations of Virginia and that fired up the black voters because they, like most people, don't want their rights taken away so a lot of blacks voted.

Also, the article pointed out that of the Asian population which makes up 6% of the Virginia population, only 1 in 6 voted so, if there were a race of people to point a finger at I would suspect racists would point at Asians and ask why 5 of 6 of them didn't even vote. But then that would be really racist to point a finger of blame at a certain race of people WOULDN'T IT?

[Le Taz Hot]

101. I don't allow racists on my screen.

Buh bye.

[Drunken Irishman]

102. See ya!

[HockeyMom]

109. Married white women

So many polls (?) seem to indicate that once women get married they do a complete turnaround and then vote Republican. Why would that be? They develop amnesia and then don't care about what their lives were like when they were single? They don't have any unmarried sisters, daughters, friends? My daughters are both married, including one in same sex marriage, and they are both still Dems, as well as both their spouses.

If anything, this white, married woman has gotten more progressive as time has passed.