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Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 08:13 PM Nov 2013

(Updated) the Lastest VA AG Results 100% Precincts Reporting. RECOUNT!!!

Last edited Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:13 PM - Edit history (1)

Attorney General - General
Virginia - 2541 of 2541 Precincts Reporting - 100%
Name Party Votes Vote %
Obenshain, Mark GOP 1,100,798 50%
Herring, Mark Dem 1,100,072 50%

http://electionresults.virginia.gov/resultsSW.aspx?type=SWR&map=CTY
This link is where I got my numbers from
ignore the article below. the Election Results are at the top

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(Updated) the Lastest VA AG Results 100% Precincts Reporting. RECOUNT!!! (Original Post) Heather MC Nov 2013 OP
Wow. 479 vote difference out of ~ 2 million votes cast. pinto Nov 2013 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Tx4obama Nov 2013 #9
Less than 500 votes separate these guys. Can anyone explain why the new Lt. Governor trounced.... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2013 #2
Jackson is a HUGE nut lots of nutty stuff came out about him last week. See link regarding him below Tx4obama Nov 2013 #11
Well, that explains a great deal. I've seen clips of this nutjob, here & there, so I guess I... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2013 #12
The psycho teabagger won? LittleBlue Nov 2013 #3
The numbers are still changing pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #4
Thanks for that info Bjorn Against Nov 2013 #7
Does this include provisional ballots? Bjorn Against Nov 2013 #5
some more tweets about the race. winter is coming Nov 2013 #6
Herring has been in the lead for a couple of hours. Please update the OP with the current numbers Tx4obama Nov 2013 #8
Oh please, make it so! sheshe2 Nov 2013 #10
It's changed again according your link now he is down by 700 or so :-( Heather MC Nov 2013 #18
ah that link shows Herring behind chillfactor Nov 2013 #29
Yes, it changed 'again' - and it will probably keep changing for several days Tx4obama Nov 2013 #31
Herring's 32-vote margin may be incorrect Neurotica Nov 2013 #13
The numbers will continue to change (see #4) pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #14
I know. What I read was the result of one of Wasserman's updates. Neurotica Nov 2013 #15
Looks like the error was rectified, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #17
You're right. AAAARGH. Neurotica Nov 2013 #20
Teabaggers were into the AG race, they showed up. Some on our side didn't show bluestate10 Nov 2013 #16
When will people learn they have to pull a straight line??????? Historic NY Nov 2013 #19
Who was the Libertarian candidate for AG? onenote Nov 2013 #41
more tweets (edited) winter is coming Nov 2013 #21
"Error" or Voter Machine Fraud Heather MC Nov 2013 #22
still more ??s winter is coming Nov 2013 #23
from https://twitter.com/Redistrict winter is coming Nov 2013 #24
You beat me to it :) Tx4obama Nov 2013 #25
It's addictive, isn't it? n/t winter is coming Nov 2013 #26
Yes. Before I went to bed last night in the middle of the night... Tx4obama Nov 2013 #27
Where's the lady vote counter...with the suspiciously forgotten bag of votes in VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #28
And where has Kathy Nickolaus in Waukesha County, Wisconsin been lately? Tx4obama Nov 2013 #30
Henry County just added 39 Herring votes, 0 Obenshain Tx4obama Nov 2013 #32
And Obenshain lead shrinks to 681 in latest SBE update pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #33
Should be 681 minus 39, right? Tx4obama Nov 2013 #34
On Dave Wasserman's spread sheet it says... Tx4obama Nov 2013 #35
Wasserman is getting info before SBE posts its updates pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #36
The AP hasn't updated for over 4 hours. I think everyone went home :( Tx4obama Nov 2013 #37
I think things are shifting to a less intense level of excitement pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #39
Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC mentioned how close the race still is a few minutes ago :) Tx4obama Nov 2013 #40
Check this out Tx4obama Nov 2013 #43
Shoot. It just changed again to a Obenshain 831 lead Tx4obama Nov 2013 #45
It's a little dizzying following Wasserman pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #47
Howard Dean just said on MSNBC that there were 13,000 provisional ballots cast. StevieM Nov 2013 #38
Yep. LisaL Nov 2013 #42
True Obenshain lead down to 131... winter is coming Nov 2013 #44
It just changed again to a Obenshain 831 lead Tx4obama Nov 2013 #46
now 651 before provisionals grantcart Nov 2013 #48
Wasserman and some followers were having some fun with precinct names pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #49

Response to pinto (Reply #1)

Tarheel_Dem

(31,228 posts)
2. Less than 500 votes separate these guys. Can anyone explain why the new Lt. Governor trounced....
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 08:21 PM
Nov 2013

his opponent, but the AG race is so tight? I kept hoping that No. Va. would make it a clean sweep.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,228 posts)
12. Well, that explains a great deal. I've seen clips of this nutjob, here & there, so I guess I...
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 08:41 PM
Nov 2013

shouldn't be surprised that he was defeated so handily. That being said, I take it the Repuke AG candidate is not a teabagger? Otherwise, I still don't understand why the good folks in N. Va didn't pull him over the line.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
4. The numbers are still changing
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 08:22 PM
Nov 2013

Voters who used provisional ballots have until noon Friday to submit ID in order to have their votes counted.

The state Board of Elections currently has Herring up by 32, but watch for new updates:

http://electionresults.virginia.gov/resultsSW.aspx?type=SWR&map=CTY

Dave Wasserman of Cook Political Report has been keeping on top of changes as canvass errors are adjusted and absentee and provisional ballots are counted:

https://twitter.com/Redistrict

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
7. Thanks for that info
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 08:27 PM
Nov 2013

I was wondering what the deal was with provisional ballots, hopefully people are able to get them counted. 32 votes is a margin that is so small that it is basically a tie that could go either way once the recount happens. Let's hope the recount is done fairly and there is a great deal of transparency.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
5. Does this include provisional ballots?
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 08:23 PM
Nov 2013

With the way the GOP has been trying to purge Democratic voters I suspect provisional ballots would go very heavily for Herring.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
6. some more tweets about the race.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 08:23 PM
Nov 2013
https://twitter.com/Redistrict

In combing thru VA precinct-by-precinct, Dems might want to flag two majority African-American precincts in Norfolk City (1/2)


Brambleton gave Obama 1,051 votes last year, Herring just 270. Hunton Y gave Obama 590, Herring 156. Anomalous vs. nearby precincts (2/2).


I wonder how many voters were struck from the rolls there, and how many provisional ballots were cast.

Neurotica

(609 posts)
13. Herring's 32-vote margin may be incorrect
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 08:45 PM
Nov 2013

Blue Virginia is reporting in comments to a post that the 32-vote margin for Herring may be due to a clerical error in Prince William County.

No further updates in the past hour or so.

Mark Herring is my current state senator -- he is a great person, lawyer and statesman. We need him in the AG spot.

Hoping...

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
14. The numbers will continue to change (see #4)
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 08:53 PM
Nov 2013

The state Board of Elections won't certify the results until Nov. 25, and then we can expect a recount to follow at the request of the second-place finisher.

Let's hope it goes to Herring when it's over.

Neurotica

(609 posts)
15. I know. What I read was the result of one of Wasserman's updates.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 08:59 PM
Nov 2013

I'm hoping the provisional ballots make a difference.

Neurotica

(609 posts)
20. You're right. AAAARGH.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:13 PM
Nov 2013

We worked so hard to educate people about the stark differences between these two candidates. Frustrating beyond belief.

However, I'm still going to hold out hope that this will turn in our favor.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
16. Teabaggers were into the AG race, they showed up. Some on our side didn't show
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:01 PM
Nov 2013

up, or worse yet, voted for the Libertarian because he was mouthing shit that he had no intention of upholding if he somehow got elected. Virginia folks that didn't vote, you may get an AG who is going to try to gum up government work in your state. How do you like that?

onenote

(42,675 posts)
41. Who was the Libertarian candidate for AG?
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:41 PM
Nov 2013

There was none, so Obenshain's showing against Herring had nothing to do with a Libertarian taking votes from Herring. Moreover, it appears that more Democrats voted in the VA election than repubs, and "independents" made up the largest voting bloc. Keep in mind that there is no party identification so this is based on self-identification in exit polls -- not necessarily the most accurate way of counting such things.

Everyone who was paying the slightest bit of attention here in Virginia knew that Obenshain/Herring would be close. There was little in the way of advertising related to Obenshain until the last couple of weeks and the Herring ads were mostly negative while Obenshain ran a mix of ads. Plus the Obenshain name is one that is well known in Virginia -- his father Richard Obenshain was a major figure in the repub party in Virginia until his death in a plane crash while campaigning for the US Senate. Herring faced a major gap in name recognition.

Finally, it may come as a surprise to some, but Obenshain outpolled McAuliffe in two of the bluest counties in Virginia -- Arlington and Fairfax. It wasn't that Democrats didn't come out for him, it was that non-Democrats didn't go his way in other parts of the state.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
21. more tweets (edited)
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:36 PM
Nov 2013
Just discovered BIG possible error in the #VAAG count. Check out London Towne #1 (Fairfax County), which went Obama 1,593-740 last yr (1/2)

...VA SBE reporting McAuliffe won London Towne #1 (Centreville) 732-413, Northam won 789-412, but Obenshain won 775-773. Really? (2/2)


on edit:
By math, that error will cost Obenshain (R) roughly 350 votes out of that precinct alone. Add Newsome Park error, his lead likely under 300.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
23. still more ??s
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:59 PM
Nov 2013
Dave Wasserman ?@Redistrict 1m

In Hollin Hall, it's much more likely Obenshain got 528 votes than 258. That would give him an extra 270 votes, so that one's in his favor.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
24. from https://twitter.com/Redistrict
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:14 PM
Nov 2013
Another HUGE Fairfax Co. error benefiting Herring (D): correct total is Herring 877-614, but VA SBE lists it as Obenshain 614-577. +300 H

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
25. You beat me to it :)
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:16 PM
Nov 2013


Dave Wasserman ?@Redistrict

Another HUGE Fairfax Co. error benefiting Herring (D): correct total is Herring 877-614, but VA SBE lists it as Obenshain 614-577. +300 H

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/398271411401138176




Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
27. Yes. Before I went to bed last night in the middle of the night...
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:21 PM
Nov 2013

... they had found a 600 vote error in favor of Herring, then another big error, then a little error, etc and it kept going back and forth between Herring and Obenshain - I finally gave up and went to bed.

I am surprised they are still finding so many errors today!



Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
34. Should be 681 minus 39, right?
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:49 PM
Nov 2013

I think the numbers at the link have been there for a while so don't have the -39 in there yet

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
36. Wasserman is getting info before SBE posts its updates
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:59 PM
Nov 2013

His info is coming from county election boards and other sources.

Media orgs like AP also get updated results directly from SBE before SBE posts it to its own site. So the SBE site tends to run behind, but it's the most authoritative source on the count. Wasserman is looking ahead to where the SBE count likely will be when the additional count changes are figured in.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
37. The AP hasn't updated for over 4 hours. I think everyone went home :(
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:02 PM
Nov 2013

Even the timesdispatch.com page has not been updating

Probably won't see much more until tomorrow

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
39. I think things are shifting to a less intense level of excitement
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:20 PM
Nov 2013

What's addictive is that it's such a nailbiter with the count status so fluid. On top of that is the differing numbers from different sources, so you have to play detective a bit to pin down what's really happening and put the information in perspective.

We know it will be drawn out, with the provisional deadline Friday, the SBE validation meeting the 25th, and the recount to follow. But what a ride!

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
43. Check this out
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:43 PM
Nov 2013


Dave Wasserman ?@Redistrict

I've received word Gov. McDonnell's office is reviewing our spreadsheet & passing along errors to SBE for follow-up: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvOrrxBeaarVdGhvNWZZN2UzUVY1bDVoYW83bWszM1E&usp=sharing&userstoinvite=lisa.hicks-thomas

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/398292143166328832


UPDATED: Projected Obenshain (R) Lead, after corrections (before provisionals): 131



pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
47. It's a little dizzying following Wasserman
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:03 AM
Nov 2013

It's like a roller coaster ride! But I love the way he's staying on top of it to bring us the latest intel.


StevieM

(10,500 posts)
38. Howard Dean just said on MSNBC that there were 13,000 provisional ballots cast.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:15 PM
Nov 2013

That could turn the race.

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