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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 08:58 PM Nov 2013

Florida teacher suspended for forcing kids to say pledge on Sept. 11 or ‘go to your home country’

By David Edwards
Wednesday, November 6, 2013 15:49 EST

A Florida teacher was recently suspended without pay for five days after school officials said that she forced a fourth grade student to violate his religious beliefs and say the Pledge of Allegiance.

The Tampa Bay Times reported that the student, whose Jehovah’s Witness religion forbids him from worshiping objects, was used to standing silent while the other students put their hands over their hearts and recited the pledge.

But on the morning of Sept. 11, Explorer K-8 School teacher Anne Daigle-McDonald forcibly placed the boy’s hand over his heart.

“You are an American, and you are supposed to salute the flag,” she said, turning to the class. “In my classroom, everyone will do the pledge; no religion says that you can’t do the pledge.”

“If you can’t put your hand on your heart, then you need to move out of the country,” the teacher reportedly added.

Hernando County Schools Division of Business Services-Heather Martin Executive Director later told Daigle-McDonald that nearly all of the students in her fourth grade class had recalled her telling them the next day to move back to their home country if they didn’t want to say the pledge.

“But that’s not what I said,” Daigle-McDonald insisted. “It was directed at citizenship. I was talking about pledging allegiance to our country, and if you don’t want to pledge to our country, you should go to your home country.”

The teacher said that she had no idea that the boy was a Jehovah’s Witness but admitted that the mother had told her he did not celebrate holidays.

just wanted all of the students to respect the day,” she remarked. “It wasn’t a holiday, so I didn’t see why the whole class couldn’t say the pledge.”


In its 1943 West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette ruling, the Supreme Court found that it was unconstitutional to force students to recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

Watch this video from WTSP, broadcast Nov. 5, 2013.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/06/florida-teacher-suspended-for-forcing-kids-to-say-pledge-on-sept-11-or-go-to-your-home-country/

Full article posted with permission

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Florida teacher suspended for forcing kids to say pledge on Sept. 11 or ‘go to your home country’ (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2013 OP
Good. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #1
Clueless, Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #2
Archaic zipplewrath Nov 2013 #11
I'd make her take counseling to go along with that suspension ... Auggie Nov 2013 #3
If she's not a "private-school" teacher ... zbdent Nov 2013 #4
listed as public but started in 2009 nt lunasun Nov 2013 #6
As I remember, I was told that unions will represent, on request (or maybe unless requested not to) zbdent Nov 2013 #8
There's no defense here. She broke the law. n/t duffyduff Nov 2013 #7
Thought this country protected religious freedom via the constitutionally guaranteed rights lunasun Nov 2013 #5
forced patriotism MissMillie Nov 2013 #9
I'll bet this teacher leftynyc Nov 2013 #10
Some love the flag; some love the Bill of Rights FiveGoodMen Nov 2013 #12
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
1. Good.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:07 PM
Nov 2013

Let her lose a week's pay, and she can use the week off to consider her lack of sensitivity. And hopefully, attorneys for the school board will send out a memo to all schools, staff, and teachers reminding them of constitutional rights of students.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
2. Clueless,
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:07 PM
Nov 2013

utterly clueless.

Why should any be required to recite a loyalty oath? Why would I pledge my "allegiance" to a "flag"?

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
11. Archaic
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:47 PM
Nov 2013

Truth is, the whole exercise is relatively archaic. The whole "hand over heart" schtick and pledging are things of a long ago past when this might have actually meant something. There is no real reason anymore to be teaching this crap to kids, other than in a history class.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
4. If she's not a "private-school" teacher ...
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:14 PM
Nov 2013

the union should really, really, really take their time coming to her defense ...

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
8. As I remember, I was told that unions will represent, on request (or maybe unless requested not to)
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:17 PM
Nov 2013

non-union employees in some cases. The key was, "how quickly the union would move to help the defense of the non-union employee" ...

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
5. Thought this country protected religious freedom via the constitutionally guaranteed rights
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:18 PM
Nov 2013

in the religion clauses of the 1st Amendment hmmmm would think a teacher might know this but guess not
Sure knows how to bully immigrants and tell them where to go though

“You are an American, and you are supposed to salute the flag,” she said, turning to the class. “In my classroom, everyone will do the pledge; no religion says that you can’t do the pledge.”

Wow a Theology and Constitution wiz of a teacher

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
10. I'll bet this teacher
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:40 PM
Nov 2013

throws words like liberty and freedom around without having the faintest idea what they mean. She should have gotten fired and I hope they are able to move this child out her class.

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