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The ads incorporate lenticular technology, so that people 4-feet, 3-inches and shorter will see an image different from the mother carving a cooked turkey in front of two children. Shorter viewers will see the scene with the two children spattered with blood and horrified as the mother cuts into a live bird.
The ad reads: "Traditional Thanksgiving Dinner -- From Your Family Butcher." The smaller type for the adult version reads, "Time to Try Vegan. Get Recipes at PETA.org," but children see, "Say No to Turkey."
http://www.providencejournal.com/breaking-news/content/20131107-peta-plans-ads-with-one-image-for-adults-another-bloody-one-for-children-poll.ece
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)to get parents on PETA's side.
hlthe2b
(102,239 posts)Not that I am defending PETA in any way, but just suspect it will backfire
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)you're probably right, either way, it will have the opposite effect of what PETA expects.
Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)People for Ethical Treatment of People.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)This is going to have the effect of turning people off to PETA and all of the issues PETA holds dear.
Arcanetrance
(2,670 posts)What got me to cut back on meat and now seriously considering going completely vegetarian was well thought out discussion with friends who have gone vegetarian or even vegan.
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)Their PR folks should be fired.
They are chasing money and people away from their cause with every stunt they pull.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)They have a crowd that will give no matter what...All you need is a fraction of a percentage of the population to donate so you can still make a buck---
From the most unbiased site I could find----
http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=4314#.Unvfwyfhf1Y
Score (out of 70) Rating
FYE 07/2012
Overall 42.84 2 stars
Financial 36.08 1 stars
Accountability & Transparency 52.00 3 stars
Financial Performance Metrics
Program Expenses
(Percent of the charitys budget spent on the programs
and services it exists to deliver) 83.2%
Administrative Expenses 0.7%
Fundraising Expenses 15.9%
Fundraising Efficiency $0.17
Primary Revenue Growth -2.4%
Program Expenses Growth -0.3%
Working Capital Ratio (years) 0.25
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)as bad publicity.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)And for a large brain, you need lots of energy. By eating meat we were able to have time to explore humanity, do things like pass down language instead of grazing in the fields all day. You would have to eat a two five gallon bucket of grasses to get the same energy as a hunk of lamb.
We should start campaigns on how PETA are trying to make us ignorant grazers again
The first major evolutionary change in the human diet was the incorporation of meat and marrow from large animals, which occurred by at least 2.6 million years ago.
Who was eating this meat and marrow?
Currently, there is fossil evidence for at least three species of hominins occurring at around 2.6-2.5 Ma: Australopithecus africanus, Australopithecus garhi, and Paranthropus aethiopicus; H. habilis was established by around 2.4-2.3 Ma (Figure 2). There are no butchered bones (or stone tools) found at stratigraphic levels associated with A. africanus or P. aethiopicus, so those taxa are less likely to be our perpetrators. While butchered bones have been found near A. garhi fossils (de Heinzelin et al. 1999), it's only in the Homo lineage, especially in Homo erectus, that we see biological features often linked to meat-eating, such as a decrease in tooth and gut size and an increase in body and brain size (e.g., McHenry 1992; Aiello and Wheeler 1995; Antón 2003; Braun et al. 2010).
Figure 2: Photograph of a cast of KNM-ER 1813, a 1.9 million-year-old Homo habilis skull from Koobi Fora, Kenya.
This is one of the most complete skulls of this species.
Why did hominins start eating more meat and marrow?
"Why" questions are notoriously difficult to answer about the past, but we can examine some of the benefits that meat and marrow provide. Meat and marrow are calorie-dense resources with essential amino acids and micronutrients (Milton 1999), and aquatic fauna offer resources rich in nutrients needed for brain growth (e.g., Broadhurst et al. 2002). Increasing the consumption of animal foods could have allowed hominins to increase their body size without losing mobility, agility, or sociality (Milton 1999). But what was the frequency and quantity of nutrients obtained by hominins from animal tissues versus other foods? Hominins at sites FLK 22 and FLKN 1-2, Olduvai Gorge, broke long bones of small to medium-large mammals in direct proportion to their estimated gross caloric yield from marrow fat (Blumenschine & Madrigal 1993 - but see Bunn et al. 2010 for a different interpretation of hominin behavior at FLKN 1-2). Long bone abundance of medium-large mammals at FLK 22 is also correlated significantly and positively to the net yield of marrow bones (Blumenschine & Madrigal 2000). Optimal foraging theory dictates that foods in the optimal diet set are expected to be consumed whenever encountered; the carcass encounter rate is dependent on a variety of ecological variables (Blumenschine & Pobiner 2006). This indicates that by at least 1.8 million years ago, carcass-processing decisions may have taken into account the energy yield of a variety of foods. Assuming opportunistic encounters with carcasses, these net yields are comparable to, or higher than, those for most, if not all, non-mammal food items harvested by tropical hunter gatherers (Blumenschine & Pobiner 2006 and references therein).
http://www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/evidence-for-meat-eating-by-early-humans-103874273
X_Digger
(18,585 posts).. who swore that man only started eating meat due to the 'rise of the patriarchal religions', swore up and down that no animal ever killed for 'sport' or raped, and never engaged in war.
It was comedy gold.
Ooh, I remembered- defendandprotect. According to her, we were vegetarians until ~5k years ago, we never landed on the moon, and manure is a terrible fertilizer.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4206909&mesg_id=4207466
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=125&topic_id=299475#299504
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seabeyond
(110,159 posts)considered what i said.
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peta is putting up a horribly graphic picture for childrens eyes only, manipulating it in a manner that is beyond the parents eyes.... wrong.
that is what is fucked up
hence
you bring up football i assume justifying or excusing petas action is your idea of a wrong (football) to validate petas wrong (the graphic picture traumatic to children)
do you see how it does not even remotely = your conclusion
but you knew that right? a game right? kinda like your original reply
just to justify petas wrong
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seabeyond
(110,159 posts)using football to deflect petas actions is a fail.
you can keep talking football. so what? that is another topic, another thread.
you are making excuses for petas wrong.
that is what is truly absurd.
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)When did this happen?
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)You think it's ok to try to ruin a kids Thanksgiving Day meal?
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Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)I don't know where you grew up, but in my family, we would butcher our turkey in our barn, not the house, the art of butchering is rather messy, I don't know of anyone who butchered a turkey, or a chicken in their house.
These ads are aimed at little children, not teens, little children don't need to see this shit.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)traumatize a child. that is .... sick. fuckin sick. it is a sick person that would go out of their way to purposely try to traumatize a child.
fuck
surely this is not so fuckin hard to understand
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)Whoops, he/she's gone.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)ok. in RL i know NO ONE that would justify purposely traumatizing a child.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)They aren't going to convert anyone with shock and awe--all they do is raise eyebrows and grab headlines and money, which allows them to do more shock and awe shit.
Decaffeinated
(556 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)RandiFan1290
(6,231 posts)lol
thelordofhell
(4,569 posts)greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)Their are a front group designed to make all humane and environmental groups look stupid to low information people by these ludicrous stunts. I am sure they are started by and financed by some really nasty dark money group.
I wish Anonymous would find out the real backers of PETA.
What a bunch of creeps.
Archae
(46,327 posts)And PETA gets it's views about nature by watching Disney cartoons, and thier leaders openily advocate banning even having a dog or a cat.
DinahMoeHum
(21,784 posts)In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)live turkeys into some cone thing to dress them just behind her?
PETA must have taken lessons.
GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)Then you will know where your food comes from.
I grew up on one and as a kid actually helped kill and dress animals for our food. Pictures like the poster would have made me laugh at the nonsensical idea of killing the turkey on the table. That's what the chopping block outside is for.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)but I have long admired their guerilla marketing tactics...
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)I'm willing to bet this will go more against them than for them.