Your jaw will drop after reading this..

[busterbrown]

This is perhaps the scariest thing I have read in years.

This is so fucked up..

Just so fucked up!!!

From Daily Kos....Link below snip.. It gets so unimaginable..

The incident began January 2, 2013 after David Eckert finished shopping at the Wal-Mart in Deming. According to a federal lawsuit, Eckert didn't make a complete stop at a stop sign coming out of the parking lot and was immediately stopped by law enforcement.
Eckert's attorney, Shannon Kennedy, said in an interview with KOB that after law enforcement asked him to step out of the vehicle, he appeared to be clenching his buttocks. Law enforcement thought that was probable cause to suspect that Eckert was hiding narcotics in his anal cavity. While officers detained Eckert, they secured a search warrant from a judge that allowed for an anal cavity search.



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/05/1253274/-Absolutely-unimaginable-this-could-happen-in-America?detail=email#

[ChisolmTrailDem]

1. Whoever is responsible for and who participated in this incident should have...

...to spend the rest of their lives in prison.

That's mild compared to what I really wanted to say.

[redstatebluegirl]

2. They all should get the same treatment in a room with lare windows to the outside!

[Xyzse]

3. And he has to pay?

Holy Crap...

[HereSince1628]

4. We have the right to be secure in our PERSONS...blah, blah, blah

Recently, it seems rights are there mostly as convenient targets to demonstrate that they can be violated by the police state.

[BrotherIvan]

5. In another story I read on DU the timeline is a bit different

It was my understanding they took him to a hospital and the first doctor refused because it was unethical. So they took him to a second one and the docs there did the procedures. It didn't have complete details of all the horrific things he had to go through. But not only should the LEOs be canned, the docs should be stripped of their license as well. But then again, we don't punish torture docs either. This whole story just turns my stomach. I can see why the populace is so damned afraid. This is starting to read like a modern-day Spanish Inquisition.

[JackHughes]

14. Punish the docs and the hospital

We expect cops to be stupid and cruel.

But doctors have more to lose by participating in what is not only "cruel and unusual punishment" -- but outright idiocy.

[rivegauche]

20. Correct. AND, they took him into another county

for the colonoscopy after the first doc refused to do it. So a couple different jurisdictions are going to have to pay this poor guy. Can you imagine, being carted around all over New Mexico (a vast empty space) for hours and hours so that all those different people could ravage your keister! AWFUL.

[sabrina 1]

31. Congratulations to the first doctor, a rarity in the post 9/11 era, an ethical doctor.

Imagine of all doctors and cops were ethical? What a different society this would be. But we have doctors who participated in torture, still practicing. War criminals who committed major War Crimes, still being treated like elder statespersons, Wall St. criminals who cheated and engaged in such massive corruption they collapsed the economies of the world, still doing what they were doing before and not only were they not held accountable, they were REWARDED.

So is it any wonder that this kind of obscene, disgusting behavior would occur without any fear of consequences in a society filled with support for War Criminals and Torturers.

[surrealAmerican]

36. There are apparently at least two different instances of this.

... same hospital, same police force. I wonder if there are even more.

[JackRiddler]

6. Do you mind revising this to say what it's actually about?

If I followed every teaser link that says nothing about the content in advance, it would be a huge of waste of time.

This is GD. You can quote up to four paragraphs and put a headline on it that says what happened.

[Control-Z]

7. I have to agree.

Few things on DU annoy me more.

[busterbrown]

10. Sorry I annoy you....

Might ask of you what other things about the mechanics of posting annoy you?.

We should all know because not annoying you will be of my highest priority from now on.

[JackRiddler]

11. Instead of being a smart-ass...

You could just change the title to something factual and quote salient details from this presumably important story you would like to promote to a wider readership.

[busterbrown]

13. “You Just Could"

I’ll do what I want and if you choose to get annoyed with any future title I post. Be sure not to read it.

You know what I don’t like about D.U. the most?
People who are overly concerned with the mechanics. Some of us might be trying to learn and as of yet have not picked up all the particulars.. But to be called “annoying” is rude.

So I’ll be rude as well.. There are a lot of old impatient people who hang around here who I would wish to just
chill out...

[KatyMan]

22. You need to read this!!!

OMG I can't believe what I just saw on tv and read on the internet! your jaw will drop!

[busterbrown]

23. Way too much!! Sounds like a high school journalism class..

[mimi85]

45. Or HuffPo. nt

[Control-Z]

48. Why, thank you!

Seems like a lot of other DUers feel the same as I feel.

If you are honestly trying to learn, right here in this thread would be a good place to start.

"Some of us might be trying to learn and as of yet have not picked up all the particulars..."

Here are some particulars: I don't come here to click on a link only to find yet another link to blindly click. Some of us read from our phones, some have slow, dial up connections, others are reading on their lunch break at work. We expect the OP and the resulting discussion to happen here. We can all get a news feed that at least lets us know what we're clicking into. That is not what we come here for.

[busterbrown]

50. Thanks for the lecture.

“We expect” Perfect, except it would be more honest if you stated “I expect”...

Have a great eve..

[Control-Z]

54. Was only responding in turn.

Why keep fighting to be wrong?

Lovely night to you!

[cui bono]

9. +1

Also, from reading the comments this story has been posted. Not that there's anything wrong with repeat posts, but the sensationalist headline is a bit overkill at this point, especially when all there is is a link inside.

[MadrasT]

16. I'm with you there.

I know what this is about because I saw a previous post on DU about it... but I won't work to figure out why somebody thinks something is important.

Give me a hint, for heaven's sakes.

Also annoying is when people just post links to YouTube videos without giving me any clue why I am supposed to give up my time to watch it. Yeah, um... just no.

[abelenkpe]

8. Ugh

Stories like this make me think I should take a job in Canada and just get my family out of here. So completely messed up!

[avebury]

12. He should sue the doctor, hospital, and police

officers for assault. A person has every right to refuse medical treatment and the hospital has no grounds to try to make him pay for for unncessary tests, particularly since there was not anything wrong with him he was wide awake and coherent and he did not consent to what was being done to him. Maybe if the hospital had to collect from the police department or city they might think twice about participating in this gross miscarriage of justice. Talk about insult to injury. That is one jury I would love to be on.

[sabrina 1]

32. I hope those doctors have been suspended. If not, they should be. Their names should be made

available also so that the public can avoid inadvertently trusting them with their medical issues.

[Incitatus]

61. They are named.

In the news and the lawsuit.

http://www.grmc.org/Doctor-Directory/Search-Results.aspx?Name=Odocha


Okay H Odocha M.D.
2600 North Silver Street
Silver City, NM 88061
View Profile
[phone]
General Surgery (Board Certified)

http://www.grmc.org/Doctor-Directory/Search-Results.aspx?Name=Wilcox



Robert M Wilcox M.D.
1313 E. 32nd St.
Silver City, NM 88061
View Profile
[phone]
Emergency Medicine

[whathehell]

15. I don't know, maybe it's me but,

Who the hell can tell if someone is "clenching their buttocks"

[BlueStreak]

19. And you would clench your buttocks too

if these lummoxes pulled you over,

[CincyDem]

27. There could be many reasons for butt clenching...

I can personally attest to at least one that wouldn't respond well to a cavity probe.

Can anyone say "...in a hurry to get back home to his private commode".

[whathehell]

35. Yeah, maybe, but

given that I don't drive bare-assed and don't even wear tight pants,

I really doubt anyone could "tell", if you get my drift.

[QuestForSense]

25. How about a couple of sadistic cops with butt-fixations?

Real specialists.

[whathehell]

34. Sounds reasonable..

[rivegauche]

17. Oh yeah. I live in NM and everyone's talking

about this. That poor dude has one sweet lawsuit in the making. He could bankrupt the whole town in a damages settlement and I hope he does.

[Art_from_Ark]

42. "Bankrupting the whole town"

means that *everyone* in the town would be made to suffer for what a few idiots did.

[kcr]

49. Then that will really give the town incentive to do something about it.

They'll really stand up and howl and demand something be done about it, won't they?

[Art_from_Ark]

57. I can't speak for the people of the New Mexico town

But a small Arkansas town had a rogue cop who committed a similar act, and even though the town fired his butt back in February, it still might get bankrupted with a lawsuit. And everyone in the town would have to pay for it, one way or another.

[kcr]

58. And that's how it is

Just because the money comes from a town doesn't mean people who suffer damages shouldn't get them. The people in the towns elect the leadership so if they're not happy with the results they can change that.

[Art_from_Ark]

59. I don't believe in group punishment

In fact, I hate it with a passion. I had to go through that shit several times in my early life, even though I never had anything to do with the "crimes", if they were even committed.

[kcr]

60. Group punishment?

Votes have consequences.

[BlueStreak]

18. I have to disagree with the Kos headline "Absolutely unimaginable"

Uhhh. No. It isn't unimaginable. This is the authoritarian state we live in now where "stop and frisk" is considered getting off easy, and if you buy a pressure cooker online, you can get a visit from the FBI.

[solarhydrocan]

21. Meanwhile in Bizarroworld...

Johnson & Johnson fined $2.2 billion over kickbacks and other allegations

It is one of the largest health-care fraud settlements in US history.

Allison JacksonNovember 4, 2013

Johnson & Johnson has agreed to pay $2.2 billion to resolve allegations that it provided kickbacks to doctors and pharmacies to push three of its medicines, as well as promoted the drugs for uses not officially approved by the Food and Drug Administration.

The US Justice Department announced the settlement Monday. It is reportedly one of the largest health-care fraud settlements in US history.

"This global settlement resolves multiple investigations involving the antipsychotic drugs Risperdal and Invega -- as well as the heart drug Natrecor and other Johnson & Johnson products," Attorney General Eric Holder said in a statement.



"The settlement also addresses allegations of conduct that recklessly put at risk the health of some of the most vulnerable members of our society -- including young children, the elderly, and the disabled."...MORE
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/united-states/131104/johnson-%2526-johnson-fined-%242.2-billion-over-kickbacks


Earlier:

Eli Lilly To Pay $29 Million To Settle Claims Drugmaker Bribed Foreign Officials
Reuters | Posted: 12/20/2012

WASHINGTON, Dec 20 (Reuters) - Pharmaceutical company Eli Lilly and Co agreed on Thursday to pay $29 million to settle civil charges that its subsidiaries made improper payments to foreign government officials to win business in Russia, Brazil, China and Poland.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/20/eli-lilly-settlement_n_2339696.html


And if TPP gets rammed through we can all look forward to more of this, only they won't get fined


This is insanity on display

[busterbrown]

24. This can’t be correct..

Johnson and Johnson? My image of them is Wonderful smelling baby powder and other useful bath products for all.

You must have the wrong company..

[Art_from_Ark]

44. Heck yeah

How can any company that advertises wholesome baby shampoo with shots of smiling, happy mothers and babies be bad???

[busterbrown]

46. I know... Very Christian like..

Being Jewish and having family lines which date back to the Middle East.. It was very refreshing to see these beautiful nordic like families on cans and bottles..

[kcr]

26. Just when I think I'm jaded and nothing will surprise me

Not to minimize the other injustices that happen or hat they aren't equally as outrageous and wrong, but I don't know, something about this story really had me gobsmacked.

[jberryhill]

28. Incidentally, this is the second time this collection of cops and doctors did that

Another incident has surfaced after this one was published the other day.

[intaglio]

29. My jaw does not drop because there are at least 5 other threads on DU about this

at the very least type the name of the victim into the "Google Site Search" that DU has provided at the top right of every page

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251337198
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10023990146
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023993348
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023991140
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023981384

[busterbrown]

30. Is it always about you?

Seems that many missed the links you listed..

[intaglio]

33. What in my post is about "me"?

My post is about your simple failure of courtesy. I put up not one of the original threads so this is not about me in any way so stop trying to hide from your failure.

[busterbrown]

37. Well its obvious that you would have rather had me not posted this old story..

And then you suggested to me what I should do.. So there is a lot of things about you in your link..

[intaglio]

38. No, what I said in my second post is that you are selfish

In this case selfish not to credit other DUers and offer the chance for your readers to look at other views. What makes this outstandingly selfish is that there is such an easy search option.

What I said in my 1st post was that there had been previous threads, advised you to search (as that facility is provided by the site) and gave links to prior threads. Note I did not accuse you of plagiarism nor did I ask for you to take down your post.

[busterbrown]

39. So we’re suppose to look for similar stories on a google search before posting?

I was not aware of that..

and that the members who read my post tonight were not given a chance to first look for other views relating to my posts..

I also had no idea that ego plays such an important part around here. I thought it was all about getting important stories out in a timely manner..

And finallyI feel so blessed that you didn’t ask me to remove my post tonight..

[intaglio]

47. I said that the facility is easily available

and that such searches are courteous. If you bothered to check the date of the story you would have seen when it occurred and, because of the delay might feel that there are other sources with more detail. A simple site search here would have given you that extra detail.

For example your post failed to catch the fact that this is at least the 2nd time this PD and this search team have done this. You would also have found out that the K-9 made the same false "discovery" smelling the car seat the previous time. You might also have picked up that this K-9 has not been re-certified for drugs work since 2011.

[Nye Bevan]

40. Being pulled over by the police is always something of a pain in the ass

but not on the level that this poor guy experienced.

[Liberal_in_LA]

41. discussed in DU the last couple of days. can't be discussed enough. kick

[busterbrown]

43. I’ve had many around here criticize me for repeating a story that I did not know existed..

I’ve had many experiences of having my posts duplicated around here and never even thought twice about it.

I was told to google my intended story first...and refer to those links first...

Honestly I never thought about that.. I’m technically dis advantaged in these areas but maybe thats what we’re suppose to do.

[Liberal_in_LA]

62. dont worry about it. happens to all of us

[woo me with science]

52. +10000

[ohheckyeah]

51. One would think that just living

in Deming, NM would be punishment enough for most anything. The one time I was there it was a real shit hole.

Does Deming have anything worth suing for?

[busterbrown]

53. Real Estate.

Everyone loves real estate...America loves real estate.

[ohheckyeah]

55. I guess it would be alright

if you already lived there. I wouldn't want real estate in Deming. I detested that place.

[Warren DeMontague]

56. The drug war.

Basically, it's an authoritarian wet dream.