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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNadya Tolokno of punk-rock band Pussy Riot is missing.
BBC JUST NOW: Nadya is out if contact with her husband and friends. The state claims she is in "transit" to another prison, but her supporters worry due to her poor health after going on a hunger strikes.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Probably busy doing rehearsals for another church gig.
Aside from that Pussy Riot is a scam not dissimilar from Femen.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)If we were to accept that statement without argument how does that, in any way, diminish the concerns of the OP?
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)of Pussy riot and Femen.
Of course, some folks here have an agenda against them for completely nonsensical reasons.
Putin and the Russian punishment system doesnt engage the kind of folks they have engaged against Nadya for folks they don't take seriously.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)I happily plead guilty.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)I wasn't stating as my own argument; I was taking umbrage with his statement as seen in the body of my post.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Still not awake.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Before learning more about the case, the first thing that made me frown was the fact progressives were hailing Pussy Riot as the new feminists, despite that their name is fairly insulting to women. It is certainly not apolitical, since we are in a context in which pornography has deeply colonised our movement and the only groups that the media presents as feminist are those that either insult us or reclaim the very instruments of our subordination, that is, male sexual violence, PIV, pornified femininity and all the associated harmful cultural practices. These tactics of destroying the meaning of feminism form part of a general worldwide backlash against women.
I found it suspicious that Pussy Riot was getting so much media attention, even for pseudo feminist standards. You can measure the degree of feminism of an action by how men react to it, and if men collectively cheer and celebrate it, then you can be pretty sure theres something wrong about it, or that it doesnt somehow support our liberation from men. And as far as I can recall, even the slutwalks didnt get as much coverage or public appraisal. What was it that men liked so much about Pussy Riot?
Well, under closer inspection I discovered that the high level of coverage was related to though indirectly promoting mens right to womens sexual subordination and the pornification of our movement. The arrested women actually form part (and are victims of) a mixed anarchist group called Voina (meaning war), founded in 2007 by two men called Oleg Vorotnikov and Leonid Nikolaïev, who regularly engage the women in extreme and degrading women-hating pornography as part of their public political stunts. Some of Voinas men have actually already been incarcerated in 2011 for hooliganism which is punished for 7 years of prison in Russia, but their bail was paid for by an artist named Banksy four months after their imprisonment. (More information can be found here and here)
Included in their anti-government actions are a public orgy in the national museum of biology in a room full of stuffed bears, where several men anally penetrated their female partners in a position of submission, including one heavily pregnant women, as a metaphor to bugger/fuck Medvedev. Medved means bear, hence all the stuffed bears this was meant to be symbolic, artistic and revolutionary according to the activists. Here the male anarchists literally used women as dead bodies or receptacles through which to make a political point to other men. Violating women as a means to offend other men is nothing else but an age-old patriarchal mechanism behind which the intended target are us, for men to bond over our annihilation.
http://radfemworldnews.wordpress.com/2012/08/20/pussy-riot-whose-freedom-whose-riot/
Aside from that you'll also find , as I mentioned them too , that Femen is in fact a marketing franchise operated out of the Ukraine.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Well golly, when you put it like that its only by government beneficence they aren't already in a shallow grave in the forest.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Dash87
(3,220 posts)Putin is a Fascist, and his country is a worldwide embarrassment. They didn't hurt anyone. They embarrassed the regime, and the regime can't have that.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Russian authorities have begun the process of moving Nadezhda Tolokonnikova to an undisclosed location in Siberia in what supporters claim was a reaction to her hunger strikes and open letters about the prison conditions and the slave-like labor of prisoners.
Tolokonnikovas friends and family, who have been trying to track her location during the transfer, said they believe Tolokno, as she is nicknamed, now is being transferred across Siberia with a special squad of the Federal Service for Execution and Punishment, a group that usually accompanies terrorists and leaders of organized criminal groups. Her transfer started approximately 17 days ago, but her exact destination is unknown. The governmental agency has not shared its plans, but promises to let the relatives know all the details once she arrives.
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According to her friends following her since she left the prison in Morovia, they believe she spent some time in Saransk's pretrial detention facility and then was held in a retransmission center in Tyumen. No one is sure about her whereabouts after that.
It is possible that Tolokonnikova will be brought to the penal colony located in the taiga village of Nizhniy Ingash, which is about 300 km (186 miles) from Krasnoyarsk, they said. This is a special colony for those who have been sentenced for the first time. There is a confectionary workplace, a sewing classroom and a carton department, and a garden where the prisoners plant beets, zucchini and potatoes.
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Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)These ladies have an awful lot of severe state sanction thrown their way. Lots of folks take them very seriously.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)MOSCOW, November 12 (RIA Novosti) Anti-Kremlin rocker Nadezhda Tolokonnikova has been transferred to a penal colony in her native Krasnoyarsk region due to her complaints about her previous facility, Russias human rights ombudsman said Tuesday.
The new prison was chosen to ensure Tolokonnikovas safety and help her resocialize in a more comfortable environment, ombudsman Vladimir Lukin said in a statement, the first official confirmation of the jailed rockers location in three weeks.
Tolokonnikova, famous for staging a so-called prayer protest in a prominent Moscow cathedral with her all-female band Pussy Riot, was hospitalized last month after a nine-day hunger strike at a Mordovian prison where she said she endured horrific conditions.
http://en.ria.ru/russia/20131112/184669548/Anti-Kremlin-Rocker-Moved-to-Different-Prison-After-Complaints.html