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Zeke L Brimstone

(89 posts)
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 04:42 PM Nov 2013

Dad calls cops to teach son a lesson; cops shoot son dead

Police in Ames, Iowa began pursuing 19-year-old Tyler Comstock after his father, James, reported the van he was driving as stolen. By the time the chase ended, Tyler was dead, shot six times by Ames police officer Adam McPherson.

But the van wasn’t stolen, according to James Comstock, it was borrowed by his son, who wanted to buy cigarettes.

“He took off with my truck. I call the police, and they kill him,” James Comstock told The Des Moines Register. “It was over a damn pack of cigarettes. I wouldn’t buy him none.”

Police chased Tyler Comstock onto the Iowa State University campus and set up a blockade that resulted in Comstock ramming Officer McPherson’s vehicle. McPherson ordered Comstock to shut off his truck, and when he refused to comply, McPherson shot at him six times.



http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/08/iowa-police-kill-son-whose-father-only-wanted-to-teach-him-a-lesson/
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Dad calls cops to teach son a lesson; cops shoot son dead (Original Post) Zeke L Brimstone Nov 2013 OP
This makes me ill. nt Xipe Totec Nov 2013 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Cronus Protagonist Nov 2013 #2
I can DoBotherMe Nov 2013 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Cronus Protagonist Nov 2013 #7
+1. I agree rollin74 Nov 2013 #9
What happened here? hibbing Nov 2013 #3
I don't think he got out of the truck jberryhill Nov 2013 #5
it's going to take a few dozen more tragedies Ilsa Nov 2013 #6
Never Call the Cops Unless You Want Someone Killed: Go Vols Nov 2013 #24
Fucking cops are never your friend. Don't ever call them unless it is gopiscrap Nov 2013 #26
sorry, didn't see that this was already posted - so I self-deleted mine Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #8
Well, that oughta teach him. KamaAina Nov 2013 #10
The OP title seems fairly dishonest... Taitertots Nov 2013 #11
Except the car wasn't stolen Go Vols Nov 2013 #12
Why didn't you read the article from the OP? Taitertots Nov 2013 #14
I read it,from the same link Go Vols Nov 2013 #15
If it was just "borrowed," then why did he call police and reported it stolen? LisaL Nov 2013 #16
You would have to ask the father I would guess as Go Vols Nov 2013 #17
Borrowed without consent = Stolen Taitertots Nov 2013 #18
That's why many police jurisdictions refuse to chase Go Vols Nov 2013 #19
The police did back off. LisaL Nov 2013 #21
I'll take your complete deviation from everything that you have posted up to this point as.... Taitertots Nov 2013 #22
Take it as you will. Go Vols Nov 2013 #23
"Dad calls cops to teach son a lesson; cops shoot son dead" Zeke L Brimstone Nov 2013 #27
NEVER CALL THE COPS UNLESS IT'S AN EMERGENCY NightWatcher Nov 2013 #13
+1 Go Vols Nov 2013 #20
+1. People shouldn't play games with cops or 911 to get back at others. freshwest Nov 2013 #25

Response to Zeke L Brimstone (Original post)

Response to DoBotherMe (Reply #4)

rollin74

(2,280 posts)
9. +1. I agree
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 06:06 PM
Nov 2013

As I posted on another thread about this:

ADW on a cop= expect to get shot at

I think this use of force was justifiable

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. I don't think he got out of the truck
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 05:07 PM
Nov 2013

Towards the end, you see some debris flying in from the right, which looks as if he was backing toward the police vehicle and hit a tree instead. Just after that there is a pop-pop-pop noise when the police leave their vehicles and approach his.

Ilsa

(64,030 posts)
6. it's going to take a few dozen more tragedies
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 05:14 PM
Nov 2013

for people to realize that LEOs don't mind body counts, even for family squabbles. It's going to take neighbors and family members talking about this and spreading the word about the cops.

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
24. Never Call the Cops Unless You Want Someone Killed:
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 08:53 PM
Nov 2013
During the chase, an unidentified Ames police staffer twice suggested that police back off their pursuit, according to dispatch audio obtained by the Register through a third-party service. Audio:http://desmoinesregister.com/videonetwork/2808789798001

The audio linked to above is illuminating; the police knew from their own audio that it was a family dispute leading to a kid grabbing dad's truck, not a car theft desperado on the loose.

Undoubtedly, a more sensible person would not have done what Comstock did -- assuming the officer's story is true, he does say on police audio that Comstock "backed up into my vehicle."

A voice of reason on the police channel points out, hey, if Comstock is being that reckless in regard to police attempts to stop him, maybe the safest thing to do is back off. "We know the suspect," the voice points out. "We can probably back it off."

Regardless, the use of lethal force on someone for cop-defiance and traffic violations should, to put it mildly, happen less often.

gopiscrap

(24,597 posts)
26. Fucking cops are never your friend. Don't ever call them unless it is
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:34 PM
Nov 2013

absolutely imperative. I would just as soon let a criminal go (with rare exceptions) than get the fucking cops involved because once they are involved they're just out to fuck some one, some how!

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
11. The OP title seems fairly dishonest...
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 07:42 PM
Nov 2013

Why not say...
"Teen shot dead after repeatedly attacking police officers with stolen car"

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
12. Except the car wasn't stolen
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 08:04 PM
Nov 2013

and they knew exactly where he lived.Go wait on him at home instead of this shit.
Luckily the cops didn't cause other fatalities while chasing this kid.

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
14. Why didn't you read the article from the OP?
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 08:11 PM
Nov 2013

"Police in Ames, Iowa began pursuing 19-year-old Tyler Comstock after his father, James, reported the van he was driving as stolen."
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/08/iowa-police-kill-son-whose-father-only-wanted-to-teach-him-a-lesson/

"Borrowed" without consent = Stolen

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
15. I read it,from the same link
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 08:21 PM
Nov 2013
But the van wasn’t stolen, according to James Comstock, it was borrowed by his son



Even if it had of been stolen,it doesn't merit a death sentence.

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
17. You would have to ask the father I would guess as
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 08:32 PM
Nov 2013

I don't see a reason in the article.

I would guess to teach the kid a lesson,little did he know the lesson would be for others instead, and the lesson is death for stealing/borrowing a truck.

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
18. Borrowed without consent = Stolen
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 08:33 PM
Nov 2013

"Even if it had of been stolen,it doesn't merit a death sentence."
You are right.
Trying to use a stolen car to kill/cause grievous injury to police officers that are trying to stop you is reasonable justification for the use of force.

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
19. That's why many police jurisdictions refuse to chase
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 08:39 PM
Nov 2013

thru crowded streets.Especially when they know exactly where the person lives.

Comstock’s family is livid over what they believe is an overreaction by the police, whose own dispatchers were pleading with officers to “back off” in their pursuit.
 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
22. I'll take your complete deviation from everything that you have posted up to this point as....
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 08:48 PM
Nov 2013

Implicit acceptance that you were wrong.

 

Zeke L Brimstone

(89 posts)
27. "Dad calls cops to teach son a lesson; cops shoot son dead"
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 12:06 AM
Nov 2013
http://www.salon.com/2013/11/08/dad_calls_cops_to_teach_son_a_lesson_cops_shoot_son_dead/

The video on the site, for whatever reason, would not 'flip' to YouTube, so I clinked on the 'Raw Story' link contained within the article.

Now, please return the nits.

NightWatcher

(39,376 posts)
13. NEVER CALL THE COPS UNLESS IT'S AN EMERGENCY
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 08:08 PM
Nov 2013

Your son taking the truck to buy smokes is not an emergency.

You can never predict what will happen when cops enter the mix, so don't call them unless necessary. Don't call them to come to your house to settle an argument between you and someone else in your house, because one or more of you will be going to jail or worse if the situation escalates. You don't want the cops in your house unless it's an emergency. Why is that so hard to grasp for some?

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