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CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 05:50 PM Nov 2013

Hello, DU! Your Friday Afternoon Challenge today: “Poetics of Place: the European Gardens of

pleasure, fantasy and glory!”

Surely you know them.

And, of course, we play fair here...

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Hello, DU! Your Friday Afternoon Challenge today: “Poetics of Place: the European Gardens of (Original Post) CTyankee Nov 2013 OP
#1 Schoenbrunn, Vienna jberryhill Nov 2013 #1
You're too fast for me, jb (nice chops, btw :) ) pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #8
#3 looks pretty Gaudi-ish blogslut Nov 2013 #2
Yes dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #13
I know 2 for sure CurtEastPoint Nov 2013 #3
yes on 3, no on 5... CTyankee Nov 2013 #7
I'm surprised if #5 isn't what we thought it was. dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #14
my neighbor also said Bath when I emailed the Challenge to him... CTyankee Nov 2013 #16
You are right. I got the wrong image. See below for my abject apology! CTyankee Nov 2013 #22
#2 is fantastic. Kingofalldems Nov 2013 #4
I bet money on #5, but I ended up taking a Bath on that one jberryhill Nov 2013 #5
Of course you missed the bath...you took a showernbrunn. nt pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #9
Bath, shave and a haircut! jberryhill Nov 2013 #10
lol dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #11
I will be doing an American version of this Challenge in a couple of weeks... CTyankee Nov 2013 #17
Fat lot of good that will do me. dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #18
well, you have me this time...I was WRONG on #5, which I have asked forgiveness for... CTyankee Nov 2013 #20
Oh. dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #24
And I thought I had SUCH a nice shot of it! CTyankee Nov 2013 #25
#1 is Vienna, #3 is in Barcelona...forget the name, designed by Gaudi... joeybee12 Nov 2013 #6
I've never studied art and never know the answers, but MerryBlooms Nov 2013 #12
Oh, that's so sweet! Thank you! CTyankee Nov 2013 #15
BIG OOPS on my part. #5 is Bath...I was going for Park Crescent in London and ended up with CTyankee Nov 2013 #19
lol jberryhill Nov 2013 #21
shudda, cudda, wudda... CTyankee Nov 2013 #23
Greatest Page for these gorgeous gardens! CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2013 #26
Later I will do one on American gardens...so many wonderful ones...hard to choose... CTyankee Nov 2013 #27
OK, we have #s 2, 4 and 6 outstanding... CTyankee Nov 2013 #28
For #2, I'm figuring the palm tree means Mediterranean, Benton D Struckcheon Nov 2013 #29
wow, those are beautiful! But as you can see, it is not them... CTyankee Nov 2013 #34
that is quite beautiful...it makes me eager to go to the Cote d'Azur... CTyankee Nov 2013 #36
#6: Boboli Gardens in Florence; the painting is 'Boboli' by John Singer Sargent pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #30
I just saw his watercolor collection on exhibit at the MFA in Boston... CTyankee Nov 2013 #33
do you have a guess on #4? CTyankee Nov 2013 #35
#2: Gardens at Isola Bella, Lake Maggiore, Italy pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #31
really fabulous, aren't they? CTyankee Nov 2013 #32
I love the way it's terraced pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #53
I was wondering if you got the fact that it was an island, which is why I wanted the water CTyankee Nov 2013 #55
I didn't think 'island,' I thought it was coastal and used that in a lot of searches, lol pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #56
Yeah, well, I didn't wanna make it TOO easy for you! CTyankee Nov 2013 #57
I've been to #3 .... oldhippie Nov 2013 #37
do you have a guess for #4. CTyankee Nov 2013 #38
It looks like something I saw ..... oldhippie Nov 2013 #39
too far south...think of a haughty queen... CTyankee Nov 2013 #41
I know number five, I've visited it Brother Buzz Nov 2013 #40
This has been guessed. It is Bath. I mistakenly attributed it to Park Crescent in London which CTyankee Nov 2013 #42
Well, a big "duh" on ME, too. Brother Buzz Nov 2013 #43
I was wondering for a minute there..."do they have these crescents everywhere in the UK?" CTyankee Nov 2013 #44
I wonder if it was bombed during the Second World War because it was a crescent... Brother Buzz Nov 2013 #49
The Germans bombed Park Crescent and the one in Bath? CTyankee Nov 2013 #50
The one in Bath was definitely bombed Brother Buzz Nov 2013 #51
I dunno if it was. Maybe, since London took a pretty bad pounding during the blitz... CTyankee Nov 2013 #52
and #4 finally Iterate Nov 2013 #45
My daughter is studying Landscape Design and her project is Petit Trianon... CTyankee Nov 2013 #46
I saw it described as Marie Antoinette's tearoom pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #47
Incredible isn't it? Just mind-boggling... CTyankee Nov 2013 #48
Will do. Iterate Nov 2013 #54
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
1. #1 Schoenbrunn, Vienna
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 05:52 PM
Nov 2013

The summer palace of the Austrian Emperor, Franz Joseph.

I was there as a child, and remember sore feet and parquet floors that don't look flat.

Enjoyed it so much as an adult, that I got the Franz Joseph chops for a while:





dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
13. Yes
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 06:17 PM
Nov 2013

Now you mention it I've been there. The flat part which you can't see on top of the pillars is bigger than a football pitch.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
18. Fat lot of good that will do me.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 06:29 PM
Nov 2013

The dozen or so times I've been over my sole interest has been women and banjos.

CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
20. well, you have me this time...I was WRONG on #5, which I have asked forgiveness for...
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 06:38 PM
Nov 2013

What I was going for was Park Crescent in London and I ended up with this...my bad...

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
24. Oh.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 06:47 PM
Nov 2013

Not to worry. Park Crescent has got the eastern edge of Regents Park more or less opposite but not that uninterupted expanse of grass.

CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
25. And I thought I had SUCH a nice shot of it!
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 06:50 PM
Nov 2013

You'd think I'd know this. I was just in London last May...oh, good lord...my first DU Challenge screw up...

MerryBlooms

(11,756 posts)
12. I've never studied art and never know the answers, but
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 06:14 PM
Nov 2013

I always look forward to and have learned so much from your Friday Challenges-- your posts are a lovely reminder of our humanity and our ability as humans to create beauty instead of destruction.

Your Friday Challenges are such a wonderful gift and a balance to the week of usually horrible news.

Thank you so much for reminding us to seek and learn of the beautiful human.

CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
15. Oh, that's so sweet! Thank you!
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 06:22 PM
Nov 2013

The whole idea here is to get people looking at art and spaces that contain or create art and certainly landscape and garden designs do that!

CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
19. BIG OOPS on my part. #5 is Bath...I was going for Park Crescent in London and ended up with
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 06:37 PM
Nov 2013

this image.

My APOLOGIES to all who guessed it right...

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,516 posts)
26. Greatest Page for these gorgeous gardens!
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 06:55 PM
Nov 2013

I didn't recognize any of them, but I sure did enjoy looking them over!

Thank you!

CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
27. Later I will do one on American gardens...so many wonderful ones...hard to choose...
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 06:57 PM
Nov 2013

glad you liked them...

CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
28. OK, we have #s 2, 4 and 6 outstanding...
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 07:28 PM
Nov 2013

HINT: #6 is by an American painter, even tho it is in a European garden.

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
29. For #2, I'm figuring the palm tree means Mediterranean,
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:06 PM
Nov 2013

and the lushness of the vegetation has to mean France rather than Italy, Greece or Spain, so I looked up gardens of the south of France and the closest to that image is Garden of the Villa Ephrussi on the Cote d'Azur.
Am I at least close???

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
30. #6: Boboli Gardens in Florence; the painting is 'Boboli' by John Singer Sargent
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 01:37 AM
Nov 2013

Last edited Sat Nov 9, 2013, 02:38 AM - Edit history (1)

The Gardens are part of the Museum of Florence.

Ed.: I just found some information on the statue. It is Hygieia by Giovan Battista Caccini, created in 1608. The daughter of the god of medicine, according to wiki she is the goddess of health, cleanliness and sanitation.

CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
33. I just saw his watercolor collection on exhibit at the MFA in Boston...
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 07:50 AM
Nov 2013

Last edited Sat Nov 9, 2013, 05:21 PM - Edit history (1)

It combined the collection owned by the MFA and the one from the Brooklyn Museum. He did a series at the Boboli. These gardens are next to the Pitti Palace in Florence (but across the river in the Oltrarno section). It's a nice section described well here: http://www.fodors.com/world/europe/italy/florence/the-oltrarno/

If you go there, be sure to stop at the Santa Maria del Carmine and see the Brancacci Chapel for its fabulous fresco of masterpieces by Masaccio, Masolino and Lippi. Expulsion from the Garden is here

CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
35. do you have a guess on #4?
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 07:56 AM
Nov 2013

I'm amazed no one has guessed it yet...I thought it would be the first to get identified...

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
31. #2: Gardens at Isola Bella, Lake Maggiore, Italy
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 03:14 AM
Nov 2013
Borromeo Baroque: Lake Maggiore’s Isola Bella & Isola Madre
By Augustus Mayhew


Keeping up with other European aristocrats took little effort for Italian royals like the Borromeo family whose more-is-more interpretation of a formal Italian garden on the family-owned island of Isola Bella has served for centuries as Lake Maggiore’s most prominent attraction. Isola Bella’s operatic-scaled gardens are spread across ten terraces that form a pyramid ornamented with balustrades, hedges, obelisks and statues.


Whether inspired by the Gothic spires of the nearby Duomo of Milan or obsessed to formulate an imaginative pyramidal Italian version of Versailles, the Borromeo family’s island showcases, Isola Bella and Isola Madre, make for Lake Maggiore’s unrivaled architectural and botanical wonders. Isola Bella’s grandiose palazzo and over-the-top gardens are in stark contrast with the more reserved Isola Madre, an Arcadian showcase for some of Europe’s most extraordinary species of trees, flowers and shrubs where for the past several centuries its magnolias, myrtles and rhododendrons have all ‘exceeded their maximum growth.” While Lake Como’s shoreline of splendid classic villas and gardens express a more conservative Italian tradition, the Borromeo’s ambitious tour de force, a 17th and 18th century-styled Hearst Castle of sorts with Alice-in-Wonderland gardens, still captures the Baroque era’s insatiable preference for folly.

http://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/node/1906443




CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
32. really fabulous, aren't they?
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 07:36 AM
Nov 2013

I was at Lake Maggiore but went to another island instead on a day trip. I really enjoyed my visit there. No wonder George Clooney bought a house at Lake Como...it's a beautiful area of Italy.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
53. I love the way it's terraced
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 04:58 PM
Nov 2013

I thought what appears to be a St. Francis statue would be a good lead to begin searching, but that was no help. Similarities in design and vegetation led me to explore some parks and gardens in France and a villa in Florence, but those were dead ends. I tried a lot of other things, with no luck. In the end it occurred to me to search on European garden obelisks as sort of a 'Hail Mary' and that's what led to Boboli.

CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
55. I was wondering if you got the fact that it was an island, which is why I wanted the water
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 05:20 PM
Nov 2013

to show in the photo. I like to include as many hints as I can to get folks interested in researching them and thereby learning lots about the art of such projects. It's a lot of fun for me and leads to an awful lot stuff I didn't know! I like to think it keeps me from getting Alzheimer's...

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
56. I didn't think 'island,' I thought it was coastal and used that in a lot of searches, lol
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 06:07 PM
Nov 2013

Live and learn! And I do learn a lot from your Challenges. Both about the works, artists and places you include and about tangential things that I stumble onto along the way.

I try to resist getting distracted from the hunt, but sometimes I can't help it. In searches for this Challenge I came upon an image of a sculpture that had once been displayed at a Dublin hotel. Off I went, and learned that the work was by J. Seward Johnson, the same artist who did The Awakening, which I'd visited a number of times when it was at Haines Point in D.C.


The Awakening...

After 27 Years, a Popular Sculpture Moves From a National Park Into Private Hands
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/29/arts/design/29awak.html?_r=0


Between Appointments, the Johnson sculpture that was displayed in Dublin...

http://travelingwithsweeney.com/2013/10/25/thousand-welcomes-four-seasons-dublin/


You won't believe what else I found, and where!

Sit Tight, Take Hold a photo blog of New Jersey Governor Chris Christie


Time to Wake Up, Pal…
By: govchristie

Aug 07 2012

Governor Chris Christie checks out the statue “Between Appointments” located on the grounds of Drumthwacket in Princeton. Gloria and Herbert Glatt donated the life scale bronze sculpture created by Seward Johnson to the Drumthwacket Foundation in 2010. It was originally cast in 1986 in a limited edition of seven.

http://njgovchristie.wordpress.com/2012/08/07/time-to-wake-up-pal/


 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
37. I've been to #3 ....
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 11:49 AM
Nov 2013

... in Barcelona, and recognized that one.

Thank you so much for these challenges. Like others, I don't know a lot of the art, but I always enjoy learning. I am looking forward to the American gardens version. I remember going to the Hartford Rose Gardens in CT when I was a little kid, but unfortunately probably wouldn't recognize it now.

Brother Buzz

(36,364 posts)
40. I know number five, I've visited it
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 01:20 PM
Nov 2013

My exchange student brother's mom lived there in the seventies. Her house was about 8:00 in your photo. I did not know there were gardens in the back! Yes, Bristol. I even have an ubiquitous nineteenth century etching of the building somewhere.

CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
42. This has been guessed. It is Bath. I mistakenly attributed it to Park Crescent in London which
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 02:04 PM
Nov 2013

it resembles because of its crescent shape. Well, a big "duh" on ME!

Brother Buzz

(36,364 posts)
49. I wonder if it was bombed during the Second World War because it was a crescent...
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 04:31 PM
Nov 2013

and it resembled another important crescent building. The Germans may have perceived crescent buildings as significant targets. To wit, the I.G. Farben Building:



I've been in both buildings.

Brother Buzz

(36,364 posts)
51. The one in Bath was definitely bombed
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 04:46 PM
Nov 2013

Park Crescent was bombed, too? Maybe my cheesy theory has merit.

Iterate

(3,020 posts)
45. and #4 finally
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 03:31 PM
Nov 2013


At Versailles.

I had looked this morning, as I sometimes check for the Sat. AM Challenge orphans.

I'd convinced myself it was Georgian and in the UK, partly because of the style of the park bench. You could do several Friday Challenges on park benches alone, as each culture and period **tends** to have a distinctive style and material.

Being wrong, many searches led to many tangents...until your last clue.

CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
46. My daughter is studying Landscape Design and her project is Petit Trianon...
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 04:08 PM
Nov 2013

#4, called the Belvedere, is in the park of it. Petit Trianon was Marie Antoinette's project....her own little world, so to speak...so I ran across a book being used by my daughter on Petit Trianon and I became fascinated by it. That and some other books she had for her studies gave me the impetus for this Challenge.

In a couple of weeks I'll do a Challenge on American Landscapes...hope you'll drop by!

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
47. I saw it described as Marie Antoinette's tearoom
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 04:19 PM
Nov 2013

(That was after Iterate got it and I saw his answer; all my searching left me skunked.)

Marie Antoinette's tearoom, The Pavillion of Belvedere
The Pavillon of Belvedere situated on a pond over looking the English garden next to a stone grotto

...

The octagonal carved marble Belvedere was use as a teahouse where Marie Antoinette served tea, her self. Situated on a pond over looking the English garden next to a stone grotto, It was a favorite entertainment place for Marie Antoinette and her court. This building is a perfect illustration of the 18th century’s taste for picturesque compositions combining decorative gardens and architecture.The octagonal Belvedere was built between (1778-81), and consecrated to the four Seasons, in the newly-informal gardens of the Petit Trianon at Versailles.

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Guarded by figures of sphinxes framing each of the flights of steps, The Belevedere was also known as the pavilion of music, and was decorated with murals inspired by the paintings of Pompeii. The richness of its stucco decor on a white background highlighted by colorful arabesque and floral patterns. the Belvedere is built in the classical style matching that of the Temple of Love.The Grotto, located downhill from it, is a totally artificial rock feature, designed and sketched by the painter Hubert Robert, in the form of a pendant in a contrasting aesthetic style. Outside, it is decorated with sculptures by Deschamps: a fruit frieze garland once painted with colors, pediments evoking the pleasures of hunting and gardening, window imposts symbolizing the four seasons. The circular living room is paved with a marble mosaic tiles in interlocking semicircle and stair pattern.

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http://andrewhopkinsart.blogspot.com/2010/09/marie-antoinettes-tearoom-pavillion-of.html


Iterate

(3,020 posts)
54. Will do.
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 05:03 PM
Nov 2013

I had always thought of garden structures as being generally British, Roman, Greek, or Japanese -the temple, the whimsy, the pavilion, or American with the bandshell or gazebo. I didn't give the French a thought, and much less a French tearoom. So now I know.

Along the way there was this site, a flickr account which has some captivating architectural detail:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47071837@N02/with/8495104720/

Oh btw, Time Team had an episode a few years ago where they dug up part of the Royal Crescent looking for a Roman cemetery. I miss that show.



Thanks.
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