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The Incomplete Greatness of Barack ObamaHes gotten more done in three years than any president in decades. Too bad the American public still thinks he hasnt accomplished anything.
By Paul Glastris
The Washington Monthly
In mid-January, pollsters for the Washington Post and ABC News asked a representative sampling of Americans the following question: Obama has been president for about three years. Would you say he has accomplished a great deal during that time, a good amount, not very much, or little or nothing?
When the polls results were released on January 18, even the most seasoned White House staffers, who know the president faces a tough battle for reelection, must have spit up their coffee: more than half the respondents52 percentsaid the president has accomplished not very much or little or nothing.
It is often said that there are no right or wrong answers in opinion polling, but in this case, there is an empirically right answerone chosen by only 12 percent of the polls respondents. The answer is that Obama has accomplished a great deal.
Measured in sheer legislative tonnage, what Obama got done in his first two years is stunning. Health care reform. The takeover and turnaround of the auto industry. The biggest economic stimulus in history. Sweeping new regulations of Wall Street. A tough new set of consumer protections on the credit card industry. A vast expansion of national service. Net neutrality. The greatest increase in wilderness protection in fifteen years. A revolutionary reform to student aid. Signing the New START treaty with Russia. The ending of dont ask, dont tell.
The rest: http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/march_april_2012/features/the_incomplete_greatness_of_ba035754.php
Read the whole thing. The first four paragraphs do not do it full justice at all.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
patricia92243
(12,597 posts)with the same thing. Don't know the answer
When on when are we going to spelling check???
emulatorloo
(44,159 posts)Which the media laps up and promotes.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)It is annoying and frustrating that when a comment is made the comment "parks" itself at the top of the page thereby inhibiting further scrolling down the page. To get back to page scrolling one must exit the post and reenter. I wish DU would fix this annoying problem. Also, spell check seems to be working fine. If I misspell a word it is immediately underlined in red. If I right click that word a list of possible corrections is given and I just pick the correct one. Maybe you're using and older version of DU? vote a STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC BALLOT be happy
nvme
(860 posts)our message of his accomplishements must be succinctly loud and clear
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Now if we can just get some of the naysayers on the left to understand that, while it is desirable to get 100% of the change you want to see, some times it is not possible given the dynamics of the system and the public. I think the man has done a great job and that he is not responsible for all the ills in the nation or the world.
I just had a lengthy exchange with another FB gaming buddy who was whining about the evils of "Obamacare" while bemoaning the fact that he did not have insurance when he was shot in 1992 but managed to survive without it. I pointed out that if he had access a more comprehensive and fair system, it would be beneficial to him and all others. Why shouldn't people view the AFA as the groundwork for further and more comprehensive changes in health care affordability and the gradual phasing out of the for profit industry that has bilked people for years. Why not move it out of the purview of the employer? If people refuse to see the possibilities and will only pick up bricks to throw rather than build, then we will continue to crumble as a society.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)It appears to me that Obama doesn't want to "brag" about his accomplishments...that they got a lot done behind the scenes without raising flags for the Repugs.
Now, when they come out with long lists of accomplishments, it's too overwhelming and the RW pooh-poohs it. They need to be spoon-fed information in bits and bites, as they can't absorb too much information at one time.
If we can give him a House and Senate he can work with, he will end up one of the greatest presidents in our lifetime.
TheKentuckian
(25,029 posts)from the roots up and isn't even substantively market based reform but rather a scheme to perpetuate our "uniquely American" clusterfuck and to keep existing profit centers rolling and to prevent any actual reform.
The Wealthcare and Profit Protection can't be seen as the groundwork you outline because it is by fundemental design the exact opposite.
This isn't a new idea, it is a generation plus old crappy one.
Our only hope is employers drop motherfuckers like hot as the sun potatoes but employers seemingly don't want out or we wouldn't be stuck with the dimwitted "employer based" system.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)Instead, Timothy Geithners Treasury Department crafted a much more targeted intervention, aimed at stabilizing the financial markets and getting the economy back on track at the lowest possible cost to government. Rather than have the taxpayers assume the risky and expensive burden of taking over the banksan expense that Congress, having already approved TARP and the stimulus, was in no mood to authorizeGeithners plan was to convince investors to come in and recapitalize them. His plan had three main parts. First, the Treasury, working with the Fed and other agencies, ran stress tests of the banks to determine the fragility of their books and how much more capital theyd need to be able to survive and lend in an even more dire economic scenario than was expected at the time. Second, it gave banks six months to raise that amount of capital from private investors, and said that, if they failed, Treasury would use taxpayer dollars to buy ownership shares of the banks at a preset price, effectively establishing a floor for private investors. Third, it created a fund, with both public and private dollars, to buy the toxic assets on the banks books, thereby giving some assurance that there would be a market for those assets.
The politics of the plan were dreadful. It looked like more mollycoddling of Wall Street. But, as Joshua Green noted in the Atlantic, it had the desired effect. Private money, $140 billion of it, flooded into the nineteen biggest banks; the lending markets unfroze; and, with the help of low interest rates from the Fed, the banks paid back the TARP funds, with interest. In 2008, the International Monetary Fund studied past financial crises in forty-two countries and found that their governments spent, on average, 13.3 percent of GDP to resolve them. By that measure, it would have cost the U.S. government $1.9 trillion. The Obama plan got the banks back on their feet at essentially zero cost to the government, and in historically near-record time. Let that sink in.
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I am amazed that we did not have another depression and "bank holidays", where we could not access our money.
Pirate Smile
(27,617 posts)Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)Even I could understand it. Thanks.
Ninga
(8,276 posts)Stunning, well worth the time to read the ENTIRE piece. Thanks Will.
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)government refused to extend immunity to our troops.
His great health INSURANCE plan was the GOP's response to Hillary CARE.
The great advances made here have been Republican proposals BO has managed to "compromise" his way to.
To the people who think it is just messaging, they are correct. Dim Son had a press conference taking credit for ending the Iraq
misadventure (that he lied us in to). BO was forced to leave because the pentagon did not want the liability.
Afganistan should have been over as soon as OBL was taken out. That was the ostentatious reason for that "conflict" wasn't it?
But we are still there.
The great victory of cutting the payroll tax and replacing it with general revenue TAKES AWAY our best argument that
SOCIAL SECURITY HAS NEVER ADDED A CENT TO THE DEBT. How exactly is that an example of three dimensional chess?
I believe that the administrations's actions (prosecuting MM, prosecuting whistle blowers, enacting policies to protect the .01%)
as well as their lack of actions (prosecuting war criminals, allowing the drum beat for war with Iran, not taking firm action to end the orgy of financial fraud and market manipulation)
are the real reasons for the perception of "inactivity".
Maybe I just have not appreciated the great advances made to date. I am sure some of the benefits will come in the future.
In my opinion the primary reason for any misconception about the President's accomplishments is due to his inability to Clearly and unequivocally take a stand and say "HERE IS THE LINE, THIS FAR AND NO FURTHER".
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)and everything proposed by this administration.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)the format helps to illustrate the points.
Most informative, it assesses President Obama's record in relation to the current political realities and compares his accomplishments to other Presidents, not people who stand on the sidelines and simply offer up opinion without context, especially related to the untangling of decades of unfair policies and the aftermath of the Bush years.
The piece also shows the transformative nature of many of the President's accomplishments, but points out the obstacles ahead that could determine the net effects.
I hope it's widely read. There aren't enough commentaries like this, and it's likely the reason most Americans don't know that much has been accomplished.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,425 posts)THE LIST to the American public IMHO!
kurtzapril4
(1,353 posts)Better Believe It
(18,630 posts)WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)Ask ProSense.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)linked to in the seventh paragraph of the OP article.
Obamas Top 50 Accomplishments
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/march_april_2012/features/obamas_top_50_accomplishments035755.php
Better Believe It
(18,630 posts)with the caption: "His Greatness".
Now I wonder if some uncritical admirers of President Obama might find that offensive or do they have a sense of humor?
emulatorloo
(44,159 posts)p.s. There are only a handful of "uncritical admirers" here. About the same number of "uncritical detractors." It is just the uncritical detractors are louder.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)dmosh42
(2,217 posts)I think may or may not get accomplished in his next term. His first term was about getting re-elected. So much compromising and not much convictions. Besides his great collapse on health care insurance, His complete lack of JUSTICE for the 99% has been the worst notable thing in my book. Lucky for him that the Repukes have their head up their asses, and will nominate some nutjob asskisser!
Bladian
(475 posts)I think he's been concerned with his re-election, and come November we're gonna see him really break out the big guns and take it to the Republicans.
emulatorloo
(44,159 posts)just1voice
(1,362 posts)but sadly, everything else in the article is lost in the paradigm of left vs. right rather than actual accomplishments.
Criminal banks still rule the U.S., just look at gas prices and it's obvious. 85% of college grads move back to their parent's houses so the student loan programs are only producing unemployed debtors. Dodd/Frank is a horrible Act, written for big banks, not to regulate them. For-profit health care is a disgrace to the U.S. and that isn't anywhere near changing. Torturers, WMD conspirators and felonious wire-tapping Bush admin criminals still walk free as "Homeland" security gets bigger, drone killings increase and laws are passed that allow the murder of Americans if OK'd by the POTUS.
Obama will win reelection and we can all only hope that it will lead to an actual change in our corrupt system.
uponit7771
(90,348 posts)...way I wanted it.
On top of that Obama hasn't been 100% perfect so ...fuck em...he aint done shit
/sarcasm
NRaleighLiberal
(60,017 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)He has done a lot, but he hasn't done what Americans really wanted him to do. Maybe nobody could, but he hasn't gotten that message out because he HAS BEEN TOO RELUCTANT TO PUT THE REPUBLICANS IN THEIR PLACE.
Obama has been too nice to big business, too nice to Wall Street, too nice to right-wing Democrats, too nice to Republicans.
The result is that the rich have gotten richer and richer during the few years of his presidency, and working people have lost out.
Democrats want to see their Democratic president show some oomph and fight and solidarity for struggling little people.
Obama is elegant, beautiful, charming, intelligent and kind, but he has not done things that show that he is on the side of working people. He thinks he has, but he hasn't.
From his policies on education to his policies on bail-outs, to his tax cuts that will inevitably weaken Social Security, Obama has failed to put up his fists and fight for working people. His speeches to American workers are energyless. They often sound more like apologies than pep talks.
Obama has a lot of work to do during this campaign -- and a lot of explaining for some of his policies.
And I will vote for him. In fact, I like him as a person and his challengers are worse than he is, but let's face it, this poll is quite accurate.
ZM90
(706 posts)done some great things such as getting us out of Iraq, taking a step forward in healthcare, implementing Elizabeth Warren's CFPB, ending DADT.
I do however wish he would stand up to his hollywood buddies and for the free and open internet instead of making/continuing treaties behind the backs of the American people to take away our freedom online.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)Was the Lilly Ledbetter law on equal pay so how can they leave that out?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilly_Ledbetter_Fair_Pay_Act_of_2009
He killed bin Laden. He ended combat operation in Iraq and is currently winding them down in Afghanistan. And these are just off of the top of my head.
Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)Health Care Reform in particular being a codification of Republican doctrine on health care as originally articulated by Gingrich and Romney in the late 90s (the obligation of the individual to purchase private insurance for the financial good of the already-insured) -- a repulsive doctrine.
Son of Gob
(1,502 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)progress2k12nbynd
(221 posts)New students are still paying out the nose and student dent is still destroying lives on a daily basis. Did I and every other student and graduate miss the 'revolution' this editorial mentions or was that just hyperbole for the purpose of supporting the general intent of the piece?
underpants
(182,854 posts)at least in page 1
I am posting so I can read the entire article later.
The only real oppossition to Obama is Fox News. Their viewers, believers, soak in everything the spit out as actual fact. THAT is the key element in the national discourse. The rest of the media follows them because they make the most money.
obxhead
(8,434 posts)The problem was it was for a very narrow (1%) that he got it done for.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)I'm going to vote for President Obama this fall to re-elect the first Black President of the United States.
Then President Obama will be the first Black President of the United States to be re-elected to serve a 2nd term as the President of the United States.
Man, that's how history is made!
Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)unkachuck
(6,295 posts)....too big to fail institutions are even bigger....the 1% and corporations control all of our politics....crony-capitalism is still heavily entrenched and more corrupt than even....where's the needed systemic change?
....I'm waiting for a dialog from both parties as to how the American people can regain control of their democracy and future....instead, all we hear is contraceptives and rosy-scenarios....
....you celebrate, I'm bracing for the new melt-down and limiting my systemic exposure....