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Banning Abortion Endangers Women's Health (47,000 die yearly from unsafe abortions) (Original Post) Triana Nov 2013 OP
I can hear the religious right saying... Heather MC Nov 2013 #1
Exactly. Triana Nov 2013 #2
I have no idea if it's still true, SheilaT Nov 2013 #3
we have been letting them get away with that phrase for decades now. I call them what they niyad Nov 2013 #4
+1 Triana Nov 2013 #6
Agreed. It's important. I have a new one now: "Pro-human incubator" cui bono Nov 2013 #9
just noticed your avatar--love it!! niyad Nov 2013 #5
Women are not truly human beings in that worldview Small Accumulates Nov 2013 #7
These so-called "pro-life" anti-abortion zealots also do not see women as human beings either. Triana Nov 2013 #8
That "incubator" provides 9 mos. of intensive care, 24/7 dougolat Nov 2013 #10
 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
1. I can hear the religious right saying...
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 01:32 PM
Nov 2013

"Well, that is God's punishment for their fornication and Abortion!"

My response, "if that's true, why doesn't god punish child molesters, rapist, and murders this harshly"?

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
2. Exactly.
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 01:37 PM
Nov 2013

"God" has nothing to do with it. It's pure ignorance and self-righteous meanness that drives the anti-abortion crowd.

For instance:

The (Todd Akin and others like him at least ) "legitimate rape' claims are based on the flawed findings of a Nazi anatomist who dissected own friends & had women raped 4 experimental purposes. Seriously.

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/history/2013/11/nazi_anatomy_history_the_origins_of_conservatives_anti_abortion_claims_that.html



 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
3. I have no idea if it's still true,
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 01:57 PM
Nov 2013

but I once read that something like half of all beds in maternity wards in Brazil were occupied by women recovering from illegal abortions.

If you talk to doctors who were around before Roe v Wade (a rapidly dwindling minority at this point) you'll hear exactly what it was like when abortions were not legal in this country. Those who oppose a woman's right to determine her own life have the simple, silly, and totally wrong idea that if abortions are illegal women won't have them. Nope. But women will die and be maimed if they're not safe and legal.

niyad

(113,246 posts)
4. we have been letting them get away with that phrase for decades now. I call them what they
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 02:04 PM
Nov 2013

are : woman-hating, pro-forced birth, arrogant, paternalistic assholes.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
9. Agreed. It's important. I have a new one now: "Pro-human incubator"
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 03:15 PM
Nov 2013

or maybe "pro-forced human incubator"

to the DUers who use the term incubator. It's so true, and oddly enough I had never really heard it put that way until just recently.

Some said "incubator with legs" and that really hit me.

Small Accumulates

(149 posts)
7. Women are not truly human beings in that worldview
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 02:33 PM
Nov 2013

The very sad aspect of this is women who don't see themselves or other women as worthy of being seen as full human beings, with a purpose in life, and the freedom to choose to live it. I always wonder what kind of a life such women have had to live to twist themselves into that knot. And the kind of lives they have to live each day to stay that twisted.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
8. These so-called "pro-life" anti-abortion zealots also do not see women as human beings either.
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 02:38 PM
Nov 2013

To them, women are breeding cows and little else. Incubators. Breeding stock.

dougolat

(716 posts)
10. That "incubator" provides 9 mos. of intensive care, 24/7
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 03:35 PM
Nov 2013

which is worth....how much?

More respect is called for than the current attitude.

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