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IMO, this shooting was never fully investigated and why this officer was out of his beat area.
Was this gun tested with current lab processes? I'm not sure, but I always thought that this shooting was the key to who killed JFK.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)thanks for keeping us aware of the puzzle part.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)Who was picked out of a lineup by multiple eyewitnesses who saw him running from the scene. Whose gun fired the bullets recovered from Tippit's body (shell casings from which were recovered from the scene and ALSO matched to Oswald's revolver...the same one he had on him when arrested).
Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)CK_John
(10,005 posts)with the weapon. Arrested by an FBI agent, who shows up like the magic bullet.
This infamous pistol was a .........., bought when ......... and where..........???
We know all this by route about the rifle from the movies, hearings but you never hear anything about this phase.
IMO it was planted and don't bother tying to change my mind.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)The name on the order slip was "AJ Hidell" (a known alias of Oswald, who had a post office box rented under that name).
CK_John
(10,005 posts)but I'll check it out when I can. At this stage it doesn't have the importance to me as it did 30 yrs ago. I think it will take another 50yrs before the files are open the the public.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)CK_John
(10,005 posts)Everyone should read Philip Agee's INSIDE THE COMPANY...CIA DIARY.
On page 137 he describes how the CIA invents PSEUDONYMS for operatives. The names are
highly UNIQUE, so that it is unlikely that few other persons in the world will have an identical
name. After assignment of the name, the operative will thereafter use that name in all
operations and reports.
The pseudonym assigned to Agee was JEREMY S. HODAPP.
Do you see a pattern?
J E R E M Y S. H O D A P P
A L E K J. H I D E L L
UNUSUAL FIRST NAME....MIDDLE INITIAL...CONSONANT-VOWEL-CONSONANT-VOWEL-DOUBLE CONSONANT LAST NAME
Computer generated?
Agee's book is a must for anyone wanting to understand agency operations and cryptonyms.
He unlocks many code names you may have read about.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)Oswald was in possession of a fake Selective Service card in the name of Alek James Hidell at the time of his arrest. ("Jeremy" is not an unusual first name, either.) And the idea that Oswald was a CIA operative doesn't stand up to scrutiny; he had the job at the TSBD seven weeks before Kennedy's trip to Dallas, through a friend of his wife's who informed him they were hiring.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)claimed he served in the USMC with Oswald.
Also on a personal level, he joined from the Bronx in Oct 56, I joined the Marine Corp in Mar 57 from Floyd Bennett Field but my serial number was lower. NYC supposedly was working off the same list of numbers to use.
Also nobody remembers going through boot camp with him, I still have my Parris Island graduation book(modeled after a HS yearbook) and remember almost everybody by name.
I never seen his publicized even if he went to the other boot camp in California. If you lived east of the Mississippi he should have gone to Parris Is. Because everyone wanted California was hard to swing.
Again I don't believe he was a Marine, and nothing will change my mind this late in my life.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)Okay, so by your own admission you're very much not acquainted with any of the actual facts in the case, or with the evidence, and you don't care to actually know them?
Oswald went through basic at Camp Pendleton; this is pretty extensively documented. People remembered him, not very positively. See this for instance:
While he was at San Diego, Oswald was trained in the use of the M-1 rifle.297 His practice scores were not very good,298 but when his company fired for record on December 21, he scored 212, 2 points above the score necessary to qualify as a "sharpshooter" on a marksman/sharpshooter/expert scale.299 He did not do nearly as well when he fired for record again shortly before he left the Marines.300 He practiced also with a riot gun and a .45-caliber pistol when he was in the Marines but no scores were recorded.301
Oswald was given a 4.4 rating in both "conduct" and "proficiency" at the Recruit Depot, the highest possible rating being 5.0 and an average rating of 4.0 being required for an honorable discharge.302 On January 18, 1957, he reported to Camp Pendleton, Calif., for further training and was assigned to "A" Company of the First Battalion, Second Infantry Training Regiment.303 He was at Pendleton for a little more than 5 weeks, at the end of which he was rated 4.2 in conduct and 4.0 in proficiency.304 Allen R. Felde, a fellow recruit who was with Oswald at San Diego and Pendleton, has stated that Oswald was generally unpopular and that his company was avoided by the other men.305 When his squad was given its first weekend leave from Pendleton, all eight men took a cab to Tijuana, Mexico. Oswald left the others and did not rejoin them until it was time to return to camp. Felde said that this practice was repeated on other trips to Los Angeles; Oswald accompanied the men on the bus to and from camp but did not stay with them in the city.306 On February 27, he went on leave for 2 weeks,307 during which he may have visited his mother in Fort Worth.308
http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/appendix-13.html
CK_John
(10,005 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)He renounced his American citizenship and left for the Soviet Union. When he came back, he was allowed back, as if the event never happened. That simply would not happen for you average American. This guy had connections in the US government. That just smells of intelligence services involvement with him.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/chapter-1.html
aquart
(69,014 posts)Tippit's murder was always the "Wait. WHAT?" for me.