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stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 05:43 PM Nov 2013

Video: Elizabeth Warren definitively declares she is not running for President in 2016

These OPs and comments about a Warren run are a complete waste of time. In fact, if you watch the video, she rules out a run on either position of the national ticket.

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Video: Elizabeth Warren definitively declares she is not running for President in 2016 (Original Post) stevenleser Nov 2013 OP
She knows what she wants. And it's not the Presidency, or Vice Presidency. CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2013 #1
You make a good point. She does know what she wants. Laelth Nov 2013 #36
I missed the part where she said she wouldn't run if drafted. Scuba Nov 2013 #2
Lol! stevenleser Nov 2013 #3
Did you really think she'd say 'yes'? Scuba Nov 2013 #10
It means she isn't running. She didn't use wiggle room terminology stevenleser Nov 2013 #15
You read a lot more into her statement than many. And it's a woman's prerogative to change her mind Scuba Nov 2013 #27
In 2006, Obama was still denying any intention to run in '08. Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #4
"Denying intent" is not equal to "I am not running" stevenleser Nov 2013 #5
No way can Hillary excite progressives, regardless of who she might pick for VP. Scuba Nov 2013 #12
That's your opinion based on your own feelings only. Nt stevenleser Nov 2013 #16
Yep, I'm the only one here. Yeah, that's it. Scuba Nov 2013 #24
You can't speak for all or even most progressives. Nt stevenleser Nov 2013 #26
And you don't speak for Elizabeth Warren. Scuba Nov 2013 #28
Unlike you, I didn't claim to. She spoke for herself in a video stevenleser Nov 2013 #29
Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #30
So, you're saying that Warren is as much a political sellout as Obama is, right? brooklynite Nov 2013 #34
I'm wondering what the earliest time to announce is on the record? Whisp Nov 2013 #6
If a candidate says "I'm not running, go do something else" it matters stevenleser Nov 2013 #7
Obama announced VERY early. hedda_foil Nov 2013 #19
thanks steve. pitting ms warren against ms clinton is totally counter productive spanone Nov 2013 #8
Thank you, Senator. longship Nov 2013 #9
so did Barack Obama back in 2006 or 7. nt LaydeeBug Nov 2013 #11
No, he didn't. Nt stevenleser Nov 2013 #14
YES, he did. LaydeeBug Nov 2013 #23
You said 2006-2007. He declared in 2007. Nt stevenleser Nov 2013 #25
No. I said 2006 **OR** 2007, and he said he wasn't in 2006. YOU'RE WELCOME. nt LaydeeBug Nov 2013 #31
EW knows she can probably be more productive where she is. nt Tarheel_Dem Nov 2013 #13
Why does that make some posters so pleased. Union Scribe Nov 2013 #17
She is a great lady. William769 Nov 2013 #18
Exactly. stevenleser Nov 2013 #21
Watch while I yawn. RagAss Nov 2013 #20
Folks, getting mad at me won't make Warren run. It won't change reality. stevenleser Nov 2013 #22
Okay, but I will not move on to Hillary. nt Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #32
Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #33
Townhall.com, really? NuclearDem Nov 2013 #41
I *am* not running for President MannyGoldstein Nov 2013 #35
Good! Now we can lockdown HRC and move on to the Senate... bluedeathray Nov 2013 #37
I guess then progressives need to find another candidate they can coalesce around in 2016 Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #38
If not Warren, then whom? Laelth Nov 2013 #39
Too bad. Hopefully, there will still be a liberal/progressive challenger to Hillary. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #40
still a year away tina tron Nov 2013 #42
While I would vote for her in the primary.... NCTraveler Nov 2013 #43

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,560 posts)
1. She knows what she wants. And it's not the Presidency, or Vice Presidency.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 05:51 PM
Nov 2013

Go relax, everybody!

She is not running.

Period.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
36. You make a good point. She does know what she wants.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 07:45 AM
Nov 2013

The thing about Elizabeth Warren, and what makes her refreshing, is that she doesn't care how she gets it. She wants economic justice--how she gets that is of little concern to her. If she felt that being President would be the best way to achieve her goals, she just might try.

This essay is particularly relevant:

The proper interpretation of Warren’s prodigious p.r. efforts, then, isn’t that she’s especially taken with the idea of media stardom. It’s that she is relentlessly, perhaps ruthlessly, maybe even a bit messianically, focused on advancing her policy agenda. Everything else is merely instrumental.

This is what the banking industry and its Republican allies (as well as internal opponents like Geithner) didn’t fully appreciate when they effectively killed Warren’s hopes of permanently heading the consumer agency in 2011. Anyone who knows Warren will tell you she had no particular ambition to be a senator. She decided that the Senate would suffice as a way to agitate for her issues only when Obama stiffed her for the CFPB job—an enormous disappointment after she spent months lining up support among banks. “It’s poetic justice. At end of the day, if the banking community hadn’t been so apoplectic, everyone could have decided it’s this little tiny agency, who really cares?” says Anita Dunn, Obama’s White House communications director in 2009. “Instead, she ends up as a senior senator from Massachusetts on the banking committee, blocking Larry at the Fed.”

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115509/elizabeth-warren-hillary-clintons-nightmare


Great essay, in case you haven't read it.



-Laelth
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
10. Did you really think she'd say 'yes'?
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 07:00 PM
Nov 2013

Of course she said "I'm not running." It certainly doesn't mean she won't change her mind.

The saddest part is that you and others seem to take glee in the fact that she said she won't run, when she would likely be a better President for the American People than any other potential candidate.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
15. It means she isn't running. She didn't use wiggle room terminology
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:01 PM
Nov 2013

She didn't say "it's hard to imagine" she didn't say "as of now I have no plans" she said she is not running go find someone else.

People can be gleeful, sad, angry, or whatever other emotion you intend to impute to them, it doesn't matter.

SHE IS NOT RUNNING.

Period, end of discussion.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
27. You read a lot more into her statement than many. And it's a woman's prerogative to change her mind
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:16 PM
Nov 2013

Especially if the "Draft Elizabeth" movement gains steam.

I certainly understand why you don't want her though.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
4. In 2006, Obama was still denying any intention to run in '08.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 05:59 PM
Nov 2013

Actually, I guess you can hear what you want to in that video. I didn't actually hear her say anything about "no circumstances." Just "I'm not running."

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
5. "Denying intent" is not equal to "I am not running"
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 06:02 PM
Nov 2013

Look, I get it, you would love it if she ran. She isn't running and she isn't going to run.

Heck I'm partially disappointed too. I was hoping she would agree to be Hillary's Vice Presidential pick to help excite progressives. She ruled that out too.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
29. Unlike you, I didn't claim to. She spoke for herself in a video
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:19 PM
Nov 2013

Funny how that works. You pretend to speak for millions, I posted a video of someone speaking for themselves.

You don't respect the agency and desires of a person you would like to run for president

Response to stevenleser (Reply #29)

brooklynite

(94,461 posts)
34. So, you're saying that Warren is as much a political sellout as Obama is, right?
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 10:06 PM
Nov 2013

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
6. I'm wondering what the earliest time to announce is on the record?
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 06:20 PM
Nov 2013

I think in 2008 the official announcements came in January and February, for Obama and Clinton anyway. I'm supposing the other 6 were around that time too or a bit later.

I don't think any candidate has officially announced this early in the game, ever, but I certainly could be wrong. So no matter who says what, at this point in time, none of that matters.

What they say starts mattering in January/February 2016 or thereabouts.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
7. If a candidate says "I'm not running, go do something else" it matters
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 06:25 PM
Nov 2013

I agree, not having declared yet is no big deal. But if a candidate rules it out, they rule it out.

hedda_foil

(16,371 posts)
19. Obama announced VERY early.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:07 PM
Nov 2013

February 10, 2007. http://theobamadiary.com/2013/02/09/six-years-ago-barack-obama-announces-his-candidacy/

I've been following presidential politics since 1952 (I was seven and remember thinking that the Dems were much more interesting) and can't recall anyone announcing anywhere near that early.

longship

(40,416 posts)
9. Thank you, Senator.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 06:52 PM
Nov 2013

I love Elizabeth Warren. I think that she will end up being a great US Senator. If people would only get off her case about running for president, maybe she could spend more of her considerable intellect and energies on achieving that goal instead of wasting her time talking about the fact that she has no aspirations of running for national office.

I suspect, however, that the Warren 2016 threads will continue unabated.

Do people understand that we need US Senators like her as much or more than we need somebody like her in the White House? Do people not understand the concept of three branches in our government?

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
23. YES, he did.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:12 PM
Nov 2013

It's pretty effing concise and I watched it with my own eyes when it happened, and I quote:

MR. RUSSERT: So you will not run for president or vice president in 2008?
SEN. OBAMA: I will not.


From January 26, 2006's MTP:
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/10909406/#.UoFxvqVR7Ro

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
22. Folks, getting mad at me won't make Warren run. It won't change reality.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:10 PM
Nov 2013

If she was your first choice, move on.

It's that simple.

Response to stevenleser (Original post)

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
35. I *am* not running for President
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 10:09 PM
Nov 2013

Not *will* not.

So relax... your obsession with ruining the fun of those of us who want an FDR Democrat in the White House isn't at an end yet.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
38. I guess then progressives need to find another candidate they can coalesce around in 2016
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 09:40 AM
Nov 2013
Names and personalities are relatively unimportant - What matters is that there is at last one serious and viable candidate who will champion progressive issues and raise the progressive flag in 2016.

Here is one possibility - one I would actually prefer - Sen. Sanders indicates he would run if no one else were willing to champion the main progressive issues - If Sen. Warren is not running - then quite likely no will be championing progressive issues.

Sanders for President?: He says there's a 1 percent chance he'll run in 2016 - Video

Sanders for President?: He says there's a 1 percent chance he'll run in 2016 as a way to force the country's prospective leaders into a debate over the share of wealth going to America's top 1 percent. “I worry very much that those issues are not being discussed,” Sanders told WCAX-TV. "That is the most important domestic issue that we have got to talk about." Sanders cited a lack of jobs for young adults and a rising percentage of the country slipping into poverty, but said he'll only run if no one else is willing to champion those issues

WCAX-BUR (CBS) - Burlington, VT
Channel 3 News at Eleven

VIDEO AND TRANSCRIPT:

http://mms.tveyes.com/Transcript.asp?StationID=1660&DateTime=11%2F8%2F2013+11%3A01%3A07+PM&Term=%22Bernie+Sanders%22&PlayClip=TRUE
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
43. While I would vote for her in the primary....
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 03:00 PM
Nov 2013

I would like to see her in a position where she can generate a great push towards fundamentally changing the structure of the economy. I don't think the Presidency is the place for that to occur.

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