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REP

(21,691 posts)
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 05:59 PM Nov 2013

Contraception failure rates per method

From the CDC:

Copper T intrauterine device (IUD) — Typical use failure rate: 0.8%.

Levonorgestrel intrauterine system (LNG IUD)— Typical use failure rate: 0.2%.

Implant— Typical use failure rate: 0.05%.

Injection or "shot"— Typical use failure rate: 6%.

Combined oral contraceptives— Typical use failure rate: 9%.


Patch— Typical use failure rate: 9%.

Diaphragm or cervical cap— Typical use failure rate: 12%.

Male condom— Typical use failure rate: 18%.

Female condom— Typical use failure rate: 21%, and also may help prevent STDs.

Spermicides— Typical use failure rate: 28%.

http://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/unintendedpregnancy/contraception.htm


The ones I have put in bold are among the most popular and result in 6-12 pregnancies per 100 women per year per method. (Condoms used alone result in 18 pregnancies per 100 women per year).

The problem with unwanted pregnancies isn't the lack of contraceptive use. If most sexually active women were not using one or more form of birth control, the birth and abortion rates would much, much higher. Instead, the abortion rate has held steady for years.
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Contraception failure rates per method (Original Post) REP Nov 2013 OP
Thank you. idwiyo Nov 2013 #1
There's always the misapprehension that "if these damn sluts would just use The Pill!" REP Nov 2013 #3
I am wondering how long it will take before someone demands we use two methods at once. idwiyo Nov 2013 #23
Adoption, not abortion, emotionally damages women. REP Nov 2013 #25
Oral contraceptives were 100% effective for me over the course of 30 years. kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author REP Nov 2013 #4
That's nice. REP Nov 2013 #5
Good for you. Unfortunately it doesn't work like that for everyone. idwiyo Nov 2013 #6
It might have worked for me if REP Nov 2013 #11
... idwiyo Nov 2013 #12
The key words here are laundry_queen Nov 2013 #8
When I was 17 OwnedByCats Nov 2013 #67
The abortion rate has fallen from ~29 per 1000 females aged 15-44 in the 80s to 15.1 NoOneMan Nov 2013 #7
Never mind that access to abortion got severely restricted since 80' idwiyo Nov 2013 #15
Note that these are for typical use, not correct use or even consistent use. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2013 #9
Unfortunately we don't live in a perfect world. idwiyo Nov 2013 #16
These studies show they are used correctly more often than not REP Nov 2013 #19
You would think implants would be more popular ... surrealAmerican Nov 2013 #10
Access, side-effects, and difficulties in removing them REP Nov 2013 #13
Two reasons why my wife does not use the implant Glassunion Nov 2013 #14
Upfront costs are fairly high Small Accumulates Nov 2013 #17
my daughter just got implenon. It's an implant they put in your arm. She is having some liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #36
As with injectibles, the side effects can be terrible. LeftyMom Nov 2013 #53
Where's the religious method of rhythm? nt valerief Nov 2013 #18
I didn't include that, though it's at the link. REP Nov 2013 #21
Ha! I see it. 24%. Thanks. valerief Nov 2013 #22
actually that isn't all that much worse than condoms dsc Nov 2013 #28
That's 'cause "typical use" for a condom jeff47 Nov 2013 #59
I realize why the condom numbers are high dsc Nov 2013 #62
If it's done properly, rhythm works well. jeff47 Nov 2013 #70
Let's see. gollygee Nov 2013 #74
And even harder if the woman has an irregular cycle REP Nov 2013 #75
Also, you can make some of the methods more effective pnwmom Nov 2013 #20
Regarding failure rates for the pill/shot B2G Nov 2013 #24
It's every 13 weeks, actually, but it takes 10 months for fertility to return once discontinued REP Nov 2013 #26
The pull out method doesn't work... giftedgirl77 Nov 2013 #27
How about vascetomy? GreenStormCloud Nov 2013 #29
Surgical vasectomy - .15%; Tubal ligation - .5% - not "ZERO" REP Nov 2013 #30
Vasectomy appears to be the most effective form of birth control Zorra Nov 2013 #31
Tubal ligation/fulguration is portable and permanent, though REP Nov 2013 #32
True, it's a top option if you're sure you don't want children, or more children. Zorra Nov 2013 #56
Especially in your doctor! REP Nov 2013 #58
I assume you mean the woman trusting the man. There is a simple solution. GreenStormCloud Nov 2013 #66
My doctor said he cut 'em, banded 'em, and burned 'em... cynatnite Nov 2013 #49
That's why my doc did a fulguration - my healing powers are freakish REP Nov 2013 #51
I had my vasectomy fail. GreenStormCloud Nov 2013 #65
There are TWO methods of vasectomy. GreenStormCloud Nov 2013 #64
Surgical sterilization is a great choice for some people gollygee Nov 2013 #33
Sterilizations are often denied to young women who absolutely want one REP Nov 2013 #38
It wasn't that long ago that women had to get their husband's permission... cynatnite Nov 2013 #50
I know. It shouldn't be. REP Nov 2013 #52
Doctors have to protect themselves from lawsuits. GreenStormCloud Nov 2013 #68
Informed consent makes the doctor sue-proof REP Nov 2013 #73
It only takes one lawsuit to be expensive for a doctor. GreenStormCloud Nov 2013 #78
the failure rate is not the issue. The issue is people either not having access to it, choosing not liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #34
If birth control weren't being used, the abortion rate wouldn't hold steady/decline REP Nov 2013 #35
I don't give a damn what you think of me. You will not change my mind, since you are liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #37
But I wuvs you!! REP Nov 2013 #39
lol @ "judgeypants" PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #40
I was not expecting so many on DU to be so backwards on preventing unwanted pregnancy and STI's. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #41
whooooooosh PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #43
STDs, no apostrophe. You're welcome. REP Nov 2013 #44
I knew it was, but my standards are super low REP Nov 2013 #42
trashing thread PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #45
It's a her. REP Nov 2013 #46
Pedantic: The number of abortions would go up, but the rate would remain unchanged jeff47 Nov 2013 #60
Not necessarily REP Nov 2013 #61
Right, but "increase every year" implies not correcting for population growth. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2013 #69
When I worked in OBGYN... cynatnite Nov 2013 #47
And with the ACA, let's hope more women will be able to see a doctor REP Nov 2013 #48
Condom failure rate if used correctly is 2-3% FreeState Nov 2013 #54
Real-world numbers vs "perfect use" REP Nov 2013 #55
Education can fix a large portion of that 10% FreeState Nov 2013 #57
The demographics of people who have the experience to use condoms effectively lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #72
Wow! I was unaware of the oral contraceptives failure rate. The others run as I expected. freshwest Nov 2013 #63
That's a "real world" rate jeff47 Nov 2013 #77
It is long past time for a male birth control pill. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #71
yes! Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #76

REP

(21,691 posts)
3. There's always the misapprehension that "if these damn sluts would just use The Pill!"
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 06:16 PM
Nov 2013

that there'd be fewer abortions. Well, most women are using some form of contraception - unfortunately, they're not 100% effective, and some of the most popular ones used properly can still result in a pregnancy. Even surgical sterilization does not have a 100% effectiveness rate (the failure rate is less than 1%, but that failure rate is actual women receiving some very bad news).

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
23. I am wondering how long it will take before someone demands we use two methods at once.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 06:42 PM
Nov 2013

You know, to make abortions even more "rare". And if THAT fails, carry to term and give it for adoption, because every foetus is sacred. And it will make forced-birthers happy. Or something like it.





REP

(21,691 posts)
25. Adoption, not abortion, emotionally damages women.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 06:51 PM
Nov 2013

Some studies on the long-term psychological sequelae to adoption:

J Obstet Gynecol Neonatal Nurs. 1999 Jul-Aug;28(4):395-400.
Related Articles, Links

Postadoptive reactions of the relinquishing mother: a review.

Askren HA, Bloom KC.

Deer Valley OB/GYN, Mesa, AZ, USA.

OBJECTIVE: To review the literature addressing the process of relinquishment as it relates to the birth mother. DATA SOURCES: Computerized searches in CINAHL; Article 1 st, PsycFIRST, and SocioAbs databases, using the keywords adoption and relinquishment; and ancestral bibliographies. STUDY SELECTION: Articles from indexed journals in the English language relevant to the keywords were evaluated. No studies were located before 1978. Studies that sampled only an adolescent population were excluded. Twelve studies met the inclusion criteria and were included in the analysis. DATA EXTRACTION: Data were extracted and information was organized under the following headings: grief reaction, long-term effects, efforts to resolve, and influences on the relinquishment experience. DATA SYNTHESIS: A grief reaction unique to the relinquishing mother was identified. Although this reaction consists of features characteristic of the normal grief reaction, these features persist and often lead to chronic, unresolved grief. CONCLUSIONS: The relinquishing mother is at risk for long-term physical, psychologic, and social repercussions. Although interventions have been proposed, little is known about their effectiveness in preventing or alleviating these repercussions.

Med J Aust. 1986 Feb 3;144(3):117-9.
Related Articles, Links

Psychological disability in women who relinquish a baby for adoption.

Condon JT.

During 1986, approximately 2000 women in Australia are likely to relinquish a baby for adoption. A study is presented of 20 relinquishing mothers that demonstrates a very high incidence of pathological grief reactions which have failed to resolve although many years have elapsed since the relinquishment. This group had abnormally high scores for depression and psychosomatic symptoms on the Middlesex Hospital questionnaire. Factors that militate against the resolution of grief after relinquishment are discussed. Guidelines for the medical profession that are aimed at preventing psychological disability in relinquishing mothers are outlined.

Community Health Stud. 1990;14(2):180-9.
Related Articles, Links

Erratum in:
• Community Health Stud 1990;14(3):314.

Social factors associated with the decision to relinquish a baby for adoption.

Najman JM, Morrison J, Keeping JD, Andersen MJ, Williams GM.

Department of Social and Preventive Medicine, University of Queensland.

Little is known about the characteristics, social circumstances and mental health of women who give a child up for adoption. This paper reports data from a longitudinal study of 8556 women interviewed initially at their first obstetrical visit. In total, 7668 proceeded to give birth to a live singleton baby, of which 64 then relinquished the baby for adoption. Relinquishing mothers were predominantly 18 years of age or younger, in the lowest family income group, single, having an unplanned and/or unwanted baby and reported that they were not living with a partner. These women were somewhat more likely to manifest symptoms of anxiety and depression both prior, and subsequent to, the adoption, but the majority of relinquishing mothers were of 'normal' mental health. The decision to relinquish a baby appears to be a consequence of an unwanted pregnancy experienced by an economically deprived single mother rather than the result of emotional or psychological/psychiatric considerations. These findings document a particular dimension of the impact of poverty on health.

Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #2)

REP

(21,691 posts)
11. It might have worked for me if
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 06:25 PM
Nov 2013

I wanted to use, "Not ever, honey, I'm blind from unending migraines" as my BC method ...

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
8. The key words here are
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 06:25 PM
Nov 2013

'typical use'

Lots of women forget to take a pill here and there quite often and they don't follow the package instructions to use another method of birth control until the next pack. Also, I cannot tell you how many times I went on a powerful antibiotic that was known to affect the effectiveness of the pill and the doctor AND pharmacist neglected to tell me - luckily I knew but omg, why are they not telling people? (I had a friend become pregnant this way). I actually had one doctor deny it even though it was right there on the package insert.


OwnedByCats

(805 posts)
67. When I was 17
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 08:55 AM
Nov 2013

I went on the pill. About 6 months later I was put on antibiotics for strep throat. Nobody warned me and suggested I use something else in the meantime, and being only 17, coupled with not having been on the pill long, I didn't know any better. Then I found out a month later that they confused me with another patient with the same name as mine who was not on the pill, hence why I had not been told. Thankfully nothing happened, but I now research medication incompatibilities myself, just in case!

 

NoOneMan

(4,795 posts)
7. The abortion rate has fallen from ~29 per 1000 females aged 15-44 in the 80s to 15.1
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 06:24 PM
Nov 2013

In any case, condoms should not be disregarded due to failure rates due to protection against disease as well. Different subject for a different time.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
9. Note that these are for typical use, not correct use or even consistent use.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 06:25 PM
Nov 2013

If you consistently use them correctly, most of these methods will be significantly more reliable than these numbers suggest, I believe.

REP

(21,691 posts)
19. These studies show they are used correctly more often than not
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 06:38 PM
Nov 2013

As one poster mentioned above, antibiotics that lessen the effectiveness of oral BC are often dispensed without the patient being advised to use a back-up method during therapy - this isn't really "user error" unless the user is a pharmacist. Cervical caps, sponges, etc have different effective rates in women who given birth and women who haven't due to the changes in the cervix - this is more of a product design error (they should come in two sizes at least). The Depo shot stays in the system for 10 months after the last one (it takes that before normal endometrial function resumes), so being a day or week late with a shot really won't cause a disruption in the protection.

But aside from that, as the saying goes, "there was one perfect person and he died 2,000 years ago ..."

REP

(21,691 posts)
13. Access, side-effects, and difficulties in removing them
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 06:30 PM
Nov 2013

Let's hope the ACA removes the "access" barrier for women who want it and can tolerate it.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
14. Two reasons why my wife does not use the implant
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 06:31 PM
Nov 2013

she is allergic to the metals in the one brand, and the hormones in the other caused tumors. They are not for everyone, especially the brands with hormones if you have a family history of certain cancers. That is also why she does not use the pill.

Small Accumulates

(149 posts)
17. Upfront costs are fairly high
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 06:33 PM
Nov 2013

Even though over time implants are very cost effective. But it can be tough to gather the funds for that investment.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
36. my daughter just got implenon. It's an implant they put in your arm. She is having some
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:37 PM
Nov 2013

side effects. She is not feeling well and is having some cramping, but she has a bad memory and has had a few times where she has forgotten to take the pill. So, she is hoping she won't have to worry as much about forgetting and getting pregnant.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
53. As with injectibles, the side effects can be terrible.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 09:09 PM
Nov 2013

And if you're one of the unlucky ones getting back to normal takes a long time.

REP

(21,691 posts)
21. I didn't include that, though it's at the link.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 06:40 PM
Nov 2013

I don't consider that to be contraception. As the old joke goes, "What do you call people who practice the Rhythm Method?" "Parents."

dsc

(52,160 posts)
28. actually that isn't all that much worse than condoms
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 07:15 PM
Nov 2013

and better than spermicide. That is quite surprising to be honest.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
59. That's 'cause "typical use" for a condom
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 10:13 PM
Nov 2013

includes all sorts of ways of doing it wrong. Not stopping for tears and "I'll put it on before I finish" being the most common.

dsc

(52,160 posts)
62. I realize why the condom numbers are high
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 10:24 PM
Nov 2013

though I do think the 18% is likely an over estimate. I had always read more like 10%. But I am still quite surprised at how effective the rythum method is. I would have guessed a failure rate much closer to 50%.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
74. Let's see.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 05:57 PM
Nov 2013

A contraceptive practice where I can have sex any time except when my body especially wants to have sex.

I'll pass.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
20. Also, you can make some of the methods more effective
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 06:40 PM
Nov 2013

by combining them -- for example, a diaphragm and a condom, or a condom and a spermicide.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
24. Regarding failure rates for the pill/shot
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 06:44 PM
Nov 2013

They are very effective is used correctly.

For the pill, it's typically because they are skipped or not taken at the same team each day. For the shot, it results from not getting them 3 months to the day.

REP

(21,691 posts)
26. It's every 13 weeks, actually, but it takes 10 months for fertility to return once discontinued
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 06:54 PM
Nov 2013
 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
27. The pull out method doesn't work...
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 07:06 PM
Nov 2013
My youngest sister found out the hard way (no pun intended) her senior year. My mom had 3 daughters within 34 mths in age, within a year she became a grandmother 3 times (we were 20, 19, 18). Needless to say she had a bit of an adjustment period.

I was on depo for two years between my sons with zero side effects, when I came off I got pregnant within 2 mths. I have my tubes tied now & have for about 8 years & nothing is getting past that.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
29. How about vascetomy?
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 07:24 PM
Nov 2013

Soft vascetomy - Done in a manner to be reversible, can sometimes reverse itself. Failure rate, about 1%.

Hard vascetomy - Done in a manner to be absolutely, positively, permenant. Failure rate. ZERO.

REP

(21,691 posts)
30. Surgical vasectomy - .15%; Tubal ligation - .5% - not "ZERO"
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 07:39 PM
Nov 2013

I myself had a tubal fulguration (my Fallopian tubes were burnt out, a procedure much more extreme than a ligation). This procedure still has a failure rate (.15%).

REP

(21,691 posts)
32. Tubal ligation/fulguration is portable and permanent, though
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:27 PM
Nov 2013

The failure rate for tubal fulguration is comparable to that of surgical vasectomy, and the woman gets to take it from partner to partner (if she so desires).

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
56. True, it's a top option if you're sure you don't want children, or more children.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 09:18 PM
Nov 2013

And a real drawback of vasectomy is that it involves a good degree of trust.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
66. I assume you mean the woman trusting the man. There is a simple solution.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 08:28 AM
Nov 2013

A vasectomy leaves a scar on each side of the scrotum, a little bit towards the rear, about an inch long. She can search for the scar during foreplay. She doesn't even have to tell him what she is doing.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
49. My doctor said he cut 'em, banded 'em, and burned 'em...
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:58 PM
Nov 2013

He still warned me about the failure rate and that they could still grow back together. That was 15 years ago. Not sure if I should uncross my fingers yet.

REP

(21,691 posts)
51. That's why my doc did a fulguration - my healing powers are freakish
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 09:04 PM
Nov 2013

She didn't feel at all confident about banding and burning me - mine are completely burnt off, just to be sure! Then I had an ablation. So I think I'm really at 100% babyproof

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
65. I had my vasectomy fail.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 08:22 AM
Nov 2013

Fortunately my girl friend missed her period due to stress. I was really surprised when my doctor said I had a sperm count of 30%. He did a new vasectomy at no charge. This time he cut out an inch of tube, folded the ends back over themselves, and sutured them.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
64. There are TWO methods of vasectomy.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 08:16 AM
Nov 2013

One method does have a .15% failure rate. The other method has ZERO failure rate. Didn't you notice that in my post.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
33. Surgical sterilization is a great choice for some people
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:32 PM
Nov 2013

And that's the route I've taken at this point.

However, it isn't 100%, and more importantly (since this thread is about abortion) most abortions are by women who are young enough that they might not want to cut off the possibility of having a baby ever. It's often an issue of not wanting a baby at that moment or in that relationship than just not wanting a baby ever.

REP

(21,691 posts)
38. Sterilizations are often denied to young women who absolutely want one
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:40 PM
Nov 2013

Yeah, anecdote is not the plural of data, but I'm one of them. I also know quite a few women like me who were denied sterilizations for various paternalistic reasons and had at least one abortion (and most of us finally got sterilized, yay, and remain childfree).

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
50. It wasn't that long ago that women had to get their husband's permission...
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 09:00 PM
Nov 2013

It's still difficult as you said. I knew plenty of doctors who were hesitant for young women who never had children. My daughter was young when she got hers, but she had her 3 kids back to back and was tired.

REP

(21,691 posts)
52. I know. It shouldn't be.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 09:06 PM
Nov 2013

The CREST study shows low levels of "regret" in young nullaparas who received sterilizations. I'm one who showed high levels of "YIPPEE!!!!"

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
68. Doctors have to protect themselves from lawsuits.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 10:00 AM
Nov 2013

Sterilizing a young woman with no children has the potential of a future lawsuit, no matter what kind of forms the doctor may have her sign.

If I were a doctor, I would refuse to do it to. I would know the name of a doctor who would be willing to take that risk and would make the recommendation that she see him.

Sorry, but the U.S. is a sue-happy country.

REP

(21,691 posts)
73. Informed consent makes the doctor sue-proof
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 05:55 PM
Nov 2013

Also, women aren't stupid ... well, most of them; I was in an informed consent class where one woman did not know that surgical sterilization is permanent and not considered reversible; however, due the informed consent process, she learned that and did not have the procedure. The other women - a number of whom were young nullaparas - could have given the damn class. Sterilization is something that the vast majority of women who seek it out do so because they know EXACTLY what it is.

At least one study has found extremely low levels of "regret" associated with female sterilizations, even amount very young women with no children.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
78. It only takes one lawsuit to be expensive for a doctor.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 07:28 PM
Nov 2013

So you have 999 women who have no regrets and one who has regrets and blames the doctor, finds a greedy unethical lawyer (Example: John Edwards) and the doctor has an expensive lawsuit on his hands.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
34. the failure rate is not the issue. The issue is people either not having access to it, choosing not
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:33 PM
Nov 2013

to use it, or using it incorrectly. And unwanted pregnancy rates are the lowest they have been in decades because of birth control use, so the statement that abortion should be rare because birth control should make it rare does stand up.

REP

(21,691 posts)
35. If birth control weren't being used, the abortion rate wouldn't hold steady/decline
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:36 PM
Nov 2013

It would increase each and every year.

Those judgeypants don't look good on you anyway.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
37. I don't give a damn what you think of me. You will not change my mind, since you are
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:39 PM
Nov 2013

wasting my time by being juvenile you can just go on my ignore list.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
40. lol @ "judgeypants"
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:42 PM
Nov 2013


Thanks, btw. I honestly was not expecting DU to be *this* far behind on this topic.

REP

(21,691 posts)
42. I knew it was, but my standards are super low
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:45 PM
Nov 2013

Look at this sub thread. "You won't change my mind with facts and I'm going to ignore you!!"

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
60. Pedantic: The number of abortions would go up, but the rate would remain unchanged
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 10:17 PM
Nov 2013

The rate corrects for population growth.

REP

(21,691 posts)
61. Not necessarily
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 10:23 PM
Nov 2013

For example, the rate for a number of years was 16 per 1000 women; it has gone down to 15.1 per 1000 women. The reduced access to abortion services may be a partial explanation for the decline, but the abandonment of "abstinence only" sex ed as well as the availability of OTC emergency contraception may be another part of the picture.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
47. When I worked in OBGYN...
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:53 PM
Nov 2013

The doctors usually recommended that if a woman opted for the less reliable, to also use a secondary precaution. They usually told the patients what the failure rates were for things like spermicides and all that.

That's not to say all doctors did, but the ones I worked with made a point of it.

REP

(21,691 posts)
48. And with the ACA, let's hope more women will be able to see a doctor
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:55 PM
Nov 2013

And get the best, most effective BC she can use!

FreeState

(10,572 posts)
54. Condom failure rate if used correctly is 2-3%
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 09:09 PM
Nov 2013

The 12% figure is a bit misleading because 10% of that is inconsistent use or ineffective use. If condoms are used correctly 100% of the time the failure rate is 2%.

REP

(21,691 posts)
55. Real-world numbers vs "perfect use"
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 09:13 PM
Nov 2013

These numbers come from the CDC. They don't have an agenda; that's why I used them as a source.

As Terry Allen said, "There's the radio ... And then there's Real Life."

FreeState

(10,572 posts)
57. Education can fix a large portion of that 10%
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 09:28 PM
Nov 2013

But the same cannot be said of the other methods.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
72. The demographics of people who have the experience to use condoms effectively
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 11:11 AM
Nov 2013

are not the demographics of people most likely to get pregnant accidentally.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
77. That's a "real world" rate
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 06:21 PM
Nov 2013

which includes things like women forgetting to take the pill, or women who think they only need to take a pill on days when they are going to have sex or doctors not thinking about how other prescriptions affect birth control pills.

Taken as directed, the failure rate is way less than 1%.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
71. It is long past time for a male birth control pill.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 11:06 AM
Nov 2013

That's the "two or more" redundancy that is needed.

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