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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:35 PM Nov 2013

Chuck Shumer is ALL OVER.."Contaminated Chicken Processing in CHINA" coming to USA!

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Schumer blasts USDA’s decision to allow US chicken processing in China


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WASHINGTON — Despite China’s disgusting food-safety record, the feds for the first time are allowing American chickens to be sent to China for processing — and then imported back to the United States.

The prospect of US grocery stores selling Chinese chicken nuggets laced with insecticide or substituted with rat meat prompted Sen. Chuck Schumer yesterday to demand aggressive action by US Department of Agriculture food inspectors.

“Given Chinese processors’ poor track record with regard to food-safety standards, the USDA should be taking every possible step to ensure that the chicken that ends up on our plates and in our McNuggets is safe,” Schumer (D-NY) said at a press conference.

He rattled off a nauseating list of Chinese food scandals, including arsenic found in calamari and rice, pasta infested with maggots, pumpkin seeds mixed with glass chips and rat meat sold as lamb.

“And to top it off, on-site US inspectors will not be required at these sites so there is simply no guarantee that food safety laws are up to United States standards,” Schumer said.

The chicken also won’t have to be labeled as coming from China.


“Consumers won’t even know whether or not the chicken they are eating has been processed in China,” Schumer said.
http://nypost.com/2013/09/15/schumer-blasts-usdas-decision-to-allow-us-chicken-processing-in-china/

AND MORE!

Chinese chicken: Which fast food chain may serve you this scary import?
Would you eat chicken imported from China? Overwhelmingly, 96% of WalletPop readers say they wouldn't touch the stuff.

Now that a 2004 ban on chicken imported from China has been lifted, it could be awfully tempting for some of America's favorite fast-food chains to buy the cheap meat. We asked seven of the biggest fast food chains in the U.S. whether they would buy the chicken when it becomes available. Three said they will only buy American chicken. Three would not say what they'll do. And one, a very big one, left the door wide open.
McDonald's, the maker of McNuggets and the McChicken sandwich, would not rule out using chicken products imported from the land of recalls and food safety disasters.


"As a matter of practice, we review potential supplies of raw materials globally that could meet our high quality, food safety and value screens to our customers," McDonald's vice president Walt Riker told WalletPop.

But, Riker did not want to discuss the matter further. "It is inappropriate to project anything more based on a hypothetical and speculation," he said.

UPDATE (11/13): McDonald's has decided to add to its previous statement.

"Please note that McDonald's USA does not import chicken from China or anywhere else outside of the U.S.," spokeswoman Lizzie Roscoe wrote in an email. "Our chicken is sourced, purchased, and processed in the U.S. There are no plans to import chicken at this time."




It really wouldn't be that big of a leap for McDonald's to get into the Chinese chicken game. After all, some of America's biggest chicken concerns -- such as Tyson -- are advocating to open the chicken coop door to China. And Happy Meals already have a fair amount of Chinese components -- the toys, obviously, and the apple juice. (To be fair to McDonald's, most apple juice sold in America is made using a powdery concentrate from otherwise inedible apples grown in China and shipped around the world in 55-gallon drums.)

What did the other fast food chains have to say?

Kentucky Fried Chicken strongly affirmed its commitment to a USA-only chicken policy.

"As you may know, in the U.S. our chicken on the bone is delivered fresh, not frozen," KFC spokesman Rick Maynard said. "It is all sourced locally, in the United States. All of our poultry products served at KFC U.S. restaurants come from the U.S."

The Popeyes chicken chain also said it would stick with American chicken.


"All Popeyes' chicken supply, including prepared chicken products, is procured from domestic distributors and not sourced internationally," the company said in a statement sent to WalletPop. "Popeyes is aware of the possibility that the ban on imported Chinese chicken products could be lifted. However, the relationship with our domestic distributors will not be affected in the event this should occur."

And Wendy's took the same posture. "All domestic restaurants use U.S. chickens," senior vice president. Denny Lynch said. "We have no plans to change."

Burger King, Chick-Fil-A and Arby's did not respond to questions from WalletPop about chicken from China. Only processed chicken products, not whole chickens, would be imported.

The temptation to use Chinese manufacturing facilities and buy products from China has proven almost irresistible to many American companies. You can usually get what you need from China a whole lot cheaper than you could if it was made here, even though it has to be shipped halfway around the world.

But food safety in China has had a terrible track record. Just last year, tens of thousands of chickens had to be killed after being exposed to avian flu (following the outbreak in 2004 that led to the U.S.ban). At about the same time last year, nearly 300,000 babies took ill in China after drinking melamine-tainted powdered milk. Oh yeah, and that same melamine was also found in chicken feed -- which led it to also being found in Chinese chickens. And that's not even mentioning how many people's pets died in 2007 after eating pet food with a tainted ingredient that came from China.

George T. Haley, a professor and author of "New Asian Emperors: The Business Strategies of the Overseas Chinese," said the Chinese central government is becoming more responsive to U.S. government requests to raise their safety standards, although food safety is monitored by local and regional authorities.

"The problem is well known and the FDA has substantially increased its testing of Chinese processed foods and chemicals," Haley said. "While the Central government in Beijing has limited capacity to do very much, it is cooperating with U.S....authorities."

Still, he and others are concerned that the U.S. Department of Agriculture -- which, under the new law that lifts the ban, would be charged with inspecting Chinese facilities and making the findings public -- is not up to the challenge.

"Due to significant budget cuts by previous administrations, (food safety inspectors) cannot do the job," Haley said.

Food safety expert Mark Jarvis, CEO of global food safety and consulting firm Steritech, said Americans should be concerned about food coming from China.
"China has a very difficult challenge in the lack of confidence people have with any consumable products from China," he said. "There have just been a lot of issues from China...that are grounds for real concern. Although the government is saying all the right things...I think they've got a long way to go."

And Jarvis said he's not so sure having inspections in China will really mean all that much, given the problems the government has had policing food safety in the U.S.

But if the imports do start, he noted that consumers could end up with the chicken whether they want it or not.

"Poultry doesn't have to be labeled," he said. "I don't think consumers will know the poultry they are buying is from China."


http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/10/29/chinese-chickens-which-fast-food-chain-may-serve-you-this-scary/

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Chuck Shumer is ALL OVER.."Contaminated Chicken Processing in CHINA" coming to USA! (Original Post) KoKo Nov 2013 OP
They'd rather pay the high shipping and fuel costs, than pay Americans to do the work. arcane1 Nov 2013 #1
We are changing our light bulbs..trying to go Green and SHIPPING CHICKENS KoKo Nov 2013 #4
I used to work for a container ship company. Every year, our export business declined. arcane1 Nov 2013 #5
Thanks for your experience with this. So Chickens are now our way to KoKo Nov 2013 #18
So who's going to be using this chicken warrior1 Nov 2013 #2
Probably Walmart and the article noted Chick-Fil-A and Burger King Incitatus Nov 2013 #9
And I don't shop at those places thanks warrior1 Nov 2013 #11
Schools. SCHOOLS. WinkyDink Nov 2013 #16
Interesting because I was confused about this sentence. Maraya1969 Nov 2013 #12
self delete because it is way past my bedtime and I am not processing what I read. nt Mojorabbit Nov 2013 #22
Already happening with fish Agony Nov 2013 #3
Any import should be to OUR standards. leanforward Nov 2013 #6
I wonder if the looming TPP will even allow food to be labeled as to where it was processed. djean111 Nov 2013 #7
Thank you Senator Shumer davidpdx Nov 2013 #8
He's not as "all over it" as you might wish to think hatrack Nov 2013 #10
I've never trusted Schumer....so thanks for your reply. I wondered why he was KoKo Nov 2013 #14
+1. jsr Nov 2013 #21
I'm often confused Texasgal Nov 2013 #13
I've never understood "Cost/Benefit" for the fuel to send goods from US to China KoKo Nov 2013 #17
"Despite China’s deadly food-safety record...." FIXED. Whose Administration is this, again? WinkyDink Nov 2013 #15
There is nothing good for America in this, not one thing Marrah_G Nov 2013 #19
I won't eat it. 840high Nov 2013 #20
Problem is...it won't be labeled so how will we know where it comes from? KoKo Nov 2013 #23
This is completely unacceptable Blue Owl Nov 2013 #24
Going vegetarian is looking more and more appealing Oilwellian Nov 2013 #25
They are considering importing chickens born, raised and proc'd in China, too elehhhhna Nov 2013 #26
I try to find some way to deal with this but...can't. KoKo Nov 2013 #28
For many years now, it has been the policy of the Chinese government of become the food processor Ikonoklast Nov 2013 #27
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
1. They'd rather pay the high shipping and fuel costs, than pay Americans to do the work.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:41 PM
Nov 2013

Another day in topsy-turvey deregulated crazy-land

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
4. We are changing our light bulbs..trying to go Green and SHIPPING CHICKENS
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:51 PM
Nov 2013

Back and Forth across the Pacific is NOT Destructive to our Environment?

How is this Shipping Cost Effective in the first Place...even if one discounts the Huge Impact on the Global Environment for the Fuel to Power the Cargo Ships?

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
5. I used to work for a container ship company. Every year, our export business declined.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 09:02 PM
Nov 2013

Ships would arrive from China loaded to the brim, but all we could send back was synthetic resin (aka primordial plastic), waste paper, and empty containers.

The shipping companies are going to love this policy. Hell, they probably wrote it.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
18. Thanks for your experience with this. So Chickens are now our way to
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 10:22 PM
Nov 2013

fill the shipping containers they send to us to sell us in our Department and Appliance Stores...and we send them back what we can scrap up.

NOW...we have CHICKENS, though....and soon to be our water, veggies and whatever else we can send to reduce our TRADE IMBALANCE. Meanwhile the China Shipping is gearing up for AMERICAN CHRISTMAS! Brought to us by WalMart and other Retailers.

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
9. Probably Walmart and the article noted Chick-Fil-A and Burger King
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 09:16 PM
Nov 2013

would not comment on the matter.

Then there are school lunch programs.

Maraya1969

(22,464 posts)
12. Interesting because I was confused about this sentence.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 09:48 PM
Nov 2013

"Burger King, Chick-Fil-A and Arby's did not respond to questions from WalletPop about chicken from China. Only processed chicken products, not whole chickens, would be imported."

So a chicken breast with bacon and tomato or whatever they make would not be in the picture because they are only going to import the ripped apart and stuck together to make circles or other shapes pieces of something chicken like?

Agony

(2,605 posts)
3. Already happening with fish
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:47 PM
Nov 2013

although the packaging may say "Processed in China" (even if the fish itself is from the U.S.) Check your frozen fish packaging...

leanforward

(1,076 posts)
6. Any import should be to OUR standards.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 09:03 PM
Nov 2013

Our food standards must be their food standards if they want to import.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
7. I wonder if the looming TPP will even allow food to be labeled as to where it was processed.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 09:05 PM
Nov 2013

Looks like the safest way to go would be to just avoid processed food, and find out as much as you can concerning non-processed foods.
I have read that the TPP forbids the labeling of foods for GMO content.

hatrack

(59,578 posts)
10. He's not as "all over it" as you might wish to think
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 09:24 PM
Nov 2013

From press releases from Sen. Schumer's office:

n Western New York, new export markets for American dairy farmers represent opportunities for increased employment and growth in dairy manufacturing. If the USTR and USDA continue to promote better trade relations between our Trans-Pacific partners, it would mean that tens of thousands of farming families throughout the United States can continue to grow their businesses and benefit their local communities in the years ahead. O-AT-KA’s majority owner is Upstate Niagara Cooperative which includes over 390 local dairy-farm families as members. Products manufactured by O-AT-KA at their Batavia plant include nonfat dry milk powder, buttermilk powder, whey powder, canned evaporated milk, butter, fluid condensed milk, iced coffee, nutritional beverages and other various ethnic drinks.

Ed. - Emphasis added.

http://www.schumer.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=339738&

During a personal meeting with Canadian Ambassador Gary Doer in April, the Ambassador requested that Schumer help advocate for the Canadians to be invited to join the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade negotiations. In that same meeting, Schumer secured a commitment from the Ambassador that if Canada joined Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) negotiations, the Canadian government would launch formal talks to terminate Canada’s restrictive wine taxation policies. Elimination of Canada’s anticompetitive wine tax practices would provide a massive boost to winery and tourism businesses in Niagara and across western New York and the Rochester-Finger Lakes region.

http://www.schumer.senate.gov/Newsroom/record.cfm?id=337177

A coalition of over thirty senators from both sides of the aisle have already signed onto Schumer’s letter to the USDA and USTR urging these agencies to pursue a positive outcome for America’s dairy sector in TPP negotiations. Specifically, Schumer noted that the USDA and USTR should address trade concerns with both Canada and New Zealand in dairy-related TPP discussions. Without open access to Canada and absent significant policy reform by New Zealand, the TPP promise of growth in export demand for U.S. dairy will likely not materialize. Additionally, the sanitary and phytosanitary (SPS) chapter within TPP must address safe U.S. food products being confronted with arbitrary and unscientific barriers in foreign markets. Specifically, Schumer pointed out that safe U.S. food products are too often burdened with unscientific barriers in foreign markets. Schumer wants this obstacle to global dairy competitiveness to be a top priority for USTR during TPP talks in order for science-based domestic standards for health and safety regulations are adopted worldwide.

In Upstate New York, new export markets for American dairy farmers represent opportunities for increased employment and growth in dairy manufacturing. If the USTR and USDA continue to promote better trade relations between our Trans-Pacific partners, it would mean that tens of thousands of farming families throughout the United States can continue to grow their businesses and benefit their local communities in the years ahead.

Ed. - Emphasis added.

http://www.schumer.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=341032&

Now, anybody here think that he's going to vote against TPP when it makes its way to the Senate floor?

Yeah, I didn't think so either.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
14. I've never trusted Schumer....so thanks for your reply. I wondered why he was
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 09:57 PM
Nov 2013

"all over this" ..and realize it's because he got some pressure from somewhere...and he wants it to look like he CARES...

But, STILL it calls attention to it.

Why the Heck is this stuff being rammed through while we here are still fighting to get the ACA Implemented! They are going to RAM THROUGH CRAP while we all are focused elsewhere!

I hope I'm wrong about this...but, there's been such a pattern of BETRAYAL...why should I feel differently?

Texasgal

(17,041 posts)
13. I'm often confused
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 09:57 PM
Nov 2013

how costs can be cut by processing across the world.

I don't know enough about it apparently! Thanks for the story and link.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
17. I've never understood "Cost/Benefit" for the fuel to send goods from US to China
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 10:01 PM
Nov 2013

and Back Again? How can this be good for Environment or Workers or trying to cope with Climate Change using that fuel and loss of jobs here to supplement low wage jobs there while we drill to send more of our US and Canada's fuel resources through pipelines to CHINA to support them sending good made by low wage workers back to the US that we sent the Raw Materials to them to produce those goods.

Meanwhile the TPP TRADE AGREEMENT is supposed to Keep CHINA INLINE from working Against Us!

It's a mess except that WALL STREET and BIG OIL and the REST...are PROFITING...Somehow!

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
23. Problem is...it won't be labeled so how will we know where it comes from?
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 10:22 AM
Nov 2013

That's what worries me. All this talk of coming Trade Deals where the "Country of Origin" doesn't have to be disclosed.

Blue Owl

(50,288 posts)
24. This is completely unacceptable
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 02:14 PM
Nov 2013

Privatizing gone bad -- real bad...



We can't let the corporations get away with this one, or someday soon we will be very sorry.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
25. Going vegetarian is looking more and more appealing
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 03:18 PM
Nov 2013

I will encourage my children and grandchildren to do the same. They can't force us to eat this shit, ya know?

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
26. They are considering importing chickens born, raised and proc'd in China, too
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 03:35 PM
Nov 2013

THAT came out yesterday.


Hey, they killed your dog with their poisoned food -- why not kill you too?

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
28. I try to find some way to deal with this but...can't.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 07:50 PM
Nov 2013

I don't want their Contaminated Fucking Chickens so we can "Balance our Trade Agreements with China!"

We are already going to ship our SHALE OIL OVERSEAS.

No...Poisoned Chickens. I'm old enought to know what a Chicken looks like when cooked and the stuff I'm seeing ALREADY LOOKS like it comes from CHINA. Black bones after cooking...weird inner parts.

I'm a good cook...and some of the Chickens I buy look CLONED or something to me. No blood...no Juicy Meat...just a Dry Breast and Leg Meat...without veins. WTF!

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
27. For many years now, it has been the policy of the Chinese government of become the food processor
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 04:24 PM
Nov 2013

of the entire world.


If that ever is allowed to happen, we are well and truly fucked.

The Chinese think that feeding the rest of the world poison, chalk, plastic, ground up feathers or whatever they sweep off the floor kills them, it's their problem, not the Chinese.


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