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http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/wall-street-elizabeth-warren-president-2016-elections-99697.html#ixzz2kOdzHg60There are three words that strike terror in the hearts of Wall Street bankers and corporate executives across the land: President Elizabeth Warren.
The anxiety over Warren grew Monday after a magazine report suggested the bank-bashing Democratic senator from Massachusetts could mount a presidential bid in 2016 and would not necessarily defer to Hillary Clinton who is viewed as far more business-friendly for the partys nomination.
If she ran, she could many beat Clinton. While Clinton's politics are more in line with mine, I feel many in the Democratic Party may be tired of the centrist leaning DLC type. While Clinton has the money and general popularity, Warren may be able to beat her in a head to head contest. If she got by Clinton, it would depend on who the GOP nominate. If it is someone like Ted Cruz, she could be the next President. If it were Chris Christie, he will destroy her.
My two cents. The article is right. Wall Street would shit.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)After the way she was treated by republicans and Wall Street when she tried to put consumers on a fair playing field. I would love to see a President Elizabeth Warren, I would stock up on popcorn and roasted nuts so I can watch her roast Wall Street's Nuts, giving those bastards the treatment they deserve.
Brigid
(17,621 posts)My new favorite dream that just might come true.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)He has some explaining to do as he was involved with Bernie Madoff. She will destroy him.
BrentWil
(2,384 posts)She will be kind of scary to a lot of moderate voters. Not Ted Cruz scary, but reasonable scary. The Dems haven't put someone this far left up since LBJ, and (rather you like it or not) she is out of the mainstream.
Christie will be the get something done moderate and will kill her.
delrem
(9,688 posts)Why vote for Hillary when one can get the real thing?
I think it's time Dems were Dems.
brooklynite
(94,911 posts)If New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie runs for president in 2016, he would likely face the dual challenges of uniting a fractured Republican Party and besting a formidable Hillary Clinton in a general election, according to a new NBC News poll.
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Christie's challenges extend beyond his own party: The poll finds Clinton getting the support of 44 percent of all adults in a hypothetical match up against the New Jersey governor, who gets 34 percent. The rest of respondents either preferred another candidate, said they would not vote, or were undecided.
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/12/21407295-nbc-poll-christie-faces-divided-gop-trails-clinton-in-hypothetical-16-race
freshwest
(53,661 posts)She won't screw up the social safety net and she won't hurt the economy. The banks can live with a little regulation, heck, with a lot of regulation. Only crooks fear her.
She's a standard issue Democrat, IMO.
As far as Christie, unless the Koch brothers, to whom he's sold out NJ, succeed in brainwashing almost every state in the union, he can't win.
If he does stand a chance, it's only because The Idiocracy is here and it's hopeless.
DJ13
(23,671 posts)He wouldnt dare "beat up on a woman", especially a woman as soft speaking as Warren.
In fact, she would be a worse candidate for Christie than Hillary, as many voters dont see her as very feminine since she can mix it up with the boys pretty well.
Warren is the perfect candidate to disarm the thug style Christie paints himself with.
BrentWil
(2,384 posts)Again, you are seeing the world like you want to see it.
DJ13
(23,671 posts)msongs
(67,478 posts)Warpy
(111,417 posts)Imagine a DOJ that went after the biggest thieves in the country instead of harassing pot dispensaries!
Initech
(100,129 posts)I'd rather see her destroying the Wall St criminals through the legal system.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)required ass-kissing/ass-kicking. I want her well paid in a government position for a very long time.
Edit: Yes, on the current pot insanity.
Maybe she would feel like she was getting more done in that job than as President.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)If she endorses Hill, she could be appointed to a really powerful spot. hmmm...
LuvNewcastle
(16,864 posts)She'll get my vote if she runs, but I just don't think she will. I think her lack of experience in elected office would scare most voters, and she's smart enough to know that. They don't want a repeat of Obama's problems with Congress. But the AG position would fit her like a glove. We need her in that position; she could really do a hell of a lot of damage to the most dangerous criminals of our time. Now we just need to find a Presidential candidate who would nominate her for that job. There's no fucking way Hillary would do it.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,947 posts)or being Vice President.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Bigmack
(8,020 posts)BrentWil
(2,384 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)Thinking the Old Boys Network still works. Hillary is the biggest Old Boy Club there is.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
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Scuba
(53,475 posts)... on a question was the final answer and that she would not run.
Please Elizabeth, please run.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)though I disagree with the OP's assertion that Christie would destroy her.
There are a few people I'd like to see run, Warren is one of them. Grayson, Sanders (as a Dem if that's possible), even Dean. Also agree with a poster upthread that Warren could make a good AG, or why not Secretary of the Treasury? I want her watching over the banks, with authority.
Christie does scare me, as does Jeb Bush, they are both intelligent and articulate, and very much right-wingers whose policies would suck. I have no idea how they would stack up differently vs. HRC as opposed to vs. one of the progressives I would like to see run. It's very hard to tell how such dynamics will play out, that's why we have campaigns and elections.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)would do great even with republicans.
quaker bill
(8,225 posts)Perhaps the only thing, but the one thing Hillary learned in 2008 is that you contest the caucus states. You run a 40+ state campaign not the old 22 state campaign. Contesting this broadly takes resources, specifically early cash, and lots of it. Wall street is where that comes from for the most part.
Hillary will not run the campaign she ran against Barack. It is still possible for a candidate to beat Hillary, but the cards will be heavily stacked against it. Just having lost the way she did in 2008, it will be far less likely for the outcome to repeat. Her supporters will organize in the places where she had no organization in 2008.
I like Elizabeth Warren, but 2016 will not be her time.
Notafraidtoo
(402 posts)You imply shes to left for you, and you are more in line with centrist, could you please tell us what that means? What has Warren ever said that you would say to yourself " shes to far left".
Lots of self proclaimed Centrist on this board as of late but being a centrist today when the country has moved so far right on every issue except Social issues is really disappointing, could it be that Democrats today have finally given in to Capitol marketing and lost their skepticism of business, you know its just marketing Right? Just look at taxes and wages 40-50 years ago and you will see business not only did fine but had their greatest boons. I got news for you if every business got their way ( lower wages, almost no regulation, extremely low taxes) their would be almost no one left to buy their products and we become Mexico or Russia.
You have to ignore the bitching of rich people who own the bully pulpit because they are only thinking of their own personal temporary best interest and would destroy themselves taking us all with them when they all get their way, In order for supply to survive their must be demand and capitalism requires a huge pool of working poor to even work, someone has to pay the wages and taxes so business survives, since they benefit the most from this it should be them. I know business owners want to dream this isn't true but facts are facts.
If you don't want a future where we have a Russian economy please stop being a centrist, it might have been OK 40 years ago but today we are to far right for that.
brooklynite
(94,911 posts)...and you're back in the real world where Warren has said she doesn't want to run.
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)I do think she could beat Clinton in a primary.
The Clinton Coronation Committee should not count the chickens before they are hatched. There is nothing a republican hates more (aside from Obama) than a Clinton.