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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI would TOTALLY have Elizabeth Warren's baby
from TBogg at Raw Story:
What if Elizabeth Warren went back in time and smothered Baby Hitler in his crib?
____ If you have been perambulating about the internet these past few days, the above is exactly the kind of linkbait bullshit narratives that are being peddled by people who have wearied talking about President of New Jerseymerica Chris Christie or whether Rand Paul was the real life inspiration for the J.L. Borges short story, Pierre Menard, Author of the Quixote. It seems that frustrated writers lacking hobbies have turned their lonely eyes to the Democratic side of the 2016 presidential election which is just around the corner, if by corner, you mean: three years from now. But with Hilary Killary Clinton pretty much chillaxing with the nomination ripe for the taking (providing she doesnt rehire Mark Penn, aka The Man Who Could Fuck Up A Baked Potato) there isnt a whole lot of tension the likes of which you can find on a daily basis on the Republican Wingnut Flavor of the Week side . . .
I love Elizabeth Warren. I would totally have her baby if she would have me. You love Elizabeth Warren. We all love Elizabeth Warren. Someday Elizabeth Warren t-shirts may very well become as ubiquitous as Che Ts. But, outside of the hazy crazy patchouli-scented fever palaces that are the comment sections of the manic progressive websites, nobody really thinks that Warren could, would, or should run an insurgent primary campaign against Clinton. And, to be quite frank, those who think Warren should run to in order to start a conversation are the kind of people who have attempted this kind of thing in the past and , as my grandmother used to put it, dont have dick to show for it.
I cant say whether Scheiber really thinks this Warren for POTUS groundswell is a thing (of course we have yet to hear from Lady Lynne Forester Sniffnose Wobblebottom LaDeeDah de Rothschild lately, and Jeebus knows that where the trade winds have taken her these past few months) or if hes just trying to jack up page views for TNR owner Chris Hughes. But the whole piece reeks of inside-baseball I-used-to-play-Risk chin-stroking navel-gazing hey-look-what I just-pulled-out-of-ass,-you-guys bullshit. And I mean that with great respect . . .
But, you know, Warren totally could run because, as Cokie Roberts might put it: its out there now, which is almost as good as a fact when youre working the Villager cocktail weenie circuit where everything is a horse-race for their amusement and they create the reality in which we are supposed to live
read: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/12/what-if-elizabeth-warren-went-back-in-time-and-smothered-baby-hitler-in-his-crib/
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)of the constant flow of time-travelers from the future attempting to kill him.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)just take what we let you have and enjoy that your allowed to pretend that your involved.
bigtree
(85,915 posts). . . on what's an 'edgy' enough DU post to make to 'unfuck' myself.
If your busy, don't bother yourself on my account.
bigtree
(85,915 posts). . . but I'm a bit tired at being told that a post about Hillary is some sort of progressive betrayal or dooming that nebulous, yet-unnamed progressive hero-candidate to hell.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)of us would like a say in who the candidate is. Being told to stfu and shuffle behind Clinton mumbling 'One of us! One of us!' makes her centrist behind even less appealing.
bigtree
(85,915 posts). . . without providing a candidate who's actually prepared and willing to run.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)I'm just not mindlessly lining up behind her with pom poms and money.
When will there be an announcement and some platform information? If she can't even be bothered with that, why should I give a fuck at this point. I'm going to have a lot of time on my hands after 2014, since this is inevitable.
bigtree
(85,915 posts). . . but we can't ignore the dearth of such efforts from any potential progressive challengers.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)she won't need my help. She needs to earn my vote.
I will work for any progressive challenger that happens to pop up. If none do, I can spend more time helping at the food pantry and the soup kitchen.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)2016. It's almost as if someone or some entities do not want the PEOPLE to have any say in who they THEY might want.
And that is such a turn-off, so arrogant that it's likely to fail spectacularly.
Get back to We, The People, you know the ones who actually have some rights in all of this, after we try to fill Congress with actual Progressive Democrats in 2014. Then we'll let you know who WE would like to see run. That's how it's supposed to work, isn't it? Who do the people want? Not who should be pushed on the people by unknown entities.
bigtree
(85,915 posts). . . strawmen (strawwomen) won't do.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)I was feeling the same. This site is for discussion, so please post whatever you want to(within the limitations of the TOS ). I understand that there are those of us favor her running, just as I'm sure you understand those of us who want Sanders(or Warren, or etc...).
Anything I inject is meant simply in involve myself not silence others. And sorry but often Hillary posts have been coming across as 'your not allowed other choices' lately.
bigtree
(85,915 posts). . . between being an advocate and an observer.
I would VERY MUCH support a progressive challenge to Hillary - would very much support a Warren (etc.) candidacy against Hillary in a primary campaign.
I won't however, relinquish my footing on solid ground to support whomever manages enough support and organization throughout the country to stage a serious and potentially successful campaign. I really don't see the point in ignoring or losing sight of the eventual political necessity of advancing a viable candidate.
I sometimes think opposition to Hillary is just a deflection from the inability of a more progressive alternative to exert as much political momentum and effort toward that nomination. To imagine that we can create that reality all on our own is just dangerously and naively dismissive of all of the personal effort it takes to wage a serious challenge. Frankly, most of that initial and lasting energy and effort has to originate with the candidates themselves.
I don't think we can conjure all of that out of mere opposition to the lady who's out there almost every day working to extend her appeal and support.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
bigtree
(85,915 posts)that forces you to read posts you don't like.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)How can I know whether I am going to like a given post before I read it?
-Laelth
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)How long does one have to stay here to know what is Politically Correct and to know what the popular posters approve of and don't and tow the line?
More and more I'm getting the message that the political threads dictate an Amen Choir performance. Even that is entertaining to read and to participate in sometimes. The real power begins with turning on the Power Button, going to DU, and from there on out, the right (in my case) forefinger is in charge.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)That said, given your handle, I am inclined to give you the benefit of the doubt.
Care to expand?
-Laelth
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)are unique in that they are willing to listen and weigh numerous positions before coming to a conclusion.
To me, that's the huge difference between Conservatives who want to conserve anything or everything that they loved in their past. Thus they represent, often proudly, The Dittohead...and need "grownups" or "betters" or "the MSM media" to tell them what to believe...what to read, what to watch, what to listen to, how to vote, etc. Then, they happily carry the water, so to speak, no matter how often it is logically against their best interests.
That's what, to me, makes DU a non-ending source of education and a venue to actually hone my opinions.
Thank you for asking.