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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 01:44 PM Nov 2013

Bill would ban 3-D printing of guns

"You can use certain types of plastics and certain types of other material to replicate anything," said Councilman Kenyatta Johnson, who sponsored the bill that passed 4-0 in the Public Safety Committee. "What will happen if someone used one of these 3-D printers on a personal use, which we are seeing now, to create an actual firearm? That could be something that's catastrophic."

The possibility of people using 3-D printers, a new technology that so far is uncommon outside of research or prototype-fabrication facilities, to produce weapons raised eyebrows after the anarchic Texas group Defense Distributed posted a YouTube video in May of the "Liberator," a Star Wars-like plastic gun. Many fear that the guns could allow criminals or terrorists to evade metal detectors.

In the past, some city ordinances regarding firearms have been struck down because, in Pennsylvania, state law preempts cities when it comes to guns. But Johnson said that won't be a problem in this case.

"The prohibition that city ordinances can't overcome as it relates to state legislation is primarily ownership, transfer of a firearm. This goes to manufacturing," he said. "We've spoken with the Law Department. We believe that if there is a challenge in the court system, it will be something we'll be able to defeat."

http://articles.philly.com/2013-11-08/news/43827123_1_3-d-printers-3-d-printing-guns

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Bill would ban 3-D printing of guns (Original Post) onehandle Nov 2013 OP
Saddle up Sancho! rrneck Nov 2013 #1
Anyone who risks putting a 3D gun in their hand has a good chance of losing limb or life. gordianot Nov 2013 #2
If you print in plastic it does jmowreader Nov 2013 #4
The only other way would be ban 3-D printers not going to happen gordianot Nov 2013 #5
Who didn't see this coming? Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #3
Printed guns are inevitable. Drahthaardogs Nov 2013 #6
That's because of this agent46 Nov 2013 #7
Because if there is ONE thing this nation has a dearth of, it's firearms! Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #8
They're planning on building agent46 Nov 2013 #9
Who is "they"? Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #10
There's a privatized space race going on agent46 Nov 2013 #13
If it gets more popular and the technology is refined, NuclearDem Nov 2013 #15
Interesting agent46 Nov 2013 #16
Any industry that requires bespoke equipment or instruments should be very interested. dairydog91 Nov 2013 #12
Wait, it bans printing? dairydog91 Nov 2013 #11
That Clinton just can't shut up!!! Whisp Nov 2013 #14

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
2. Anyone who risks putting a 3D gun in their hand has a good chance of losing limb or life.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 01:56 PM
Nov 2013

Other improvised firearms, the old zip gun fare no better. With the mentality of those who pursue this activity they will do it anyway. Go ahead make 3-D guns illegal much like zip guns, who knows the Corporate NRA lobby for the gun industry might agree?

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
4. If you print in plastic it does
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 02:05 PM
Nov 2013

Consider: the parts of a gun that must be metal aren't controlled, there are commercial guns with plastic parts, and there are 3d printers that print in metal.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
3. Who didn't see this coming?
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 02:02 PM
Nov 2013

You'd have thought someone would wise up and realize all the publicity whoring interviews, youtube vids, and websites with the evil genius boast "We can make all the guns we want and no law can ever stop us!!!!" would come back to bite them sooner or later...

agent46

(1,262 posts)
7. That's because of this
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 02:20 PM
Nov 2013


Proof of concept. It's a winner. If you can make weapons with it, there will be big investments and it will go mainstream. Personal 3D printing is a game changer for manufacturing as huge as the internet. The big weapons manufacturers don't want home users biting into their business, so this law ensures they keep a death grip on the sale and distribution of conventional weapons making templates, materials and technology legal only for members of the big corporate club. Of course, the tech will be hacked and other forms and types of non-standard weapons will be developed and printed just like designer drugs. Get ready. It's coming.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
8. Because if there is ONE thing this nation has a dearth of, it's firearms!
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 02:27 PM
Nov 2013

Has anyone discovered some non weaponry-related breakthroughs with 3-D printing yet?

agent46

(1,262 posts)
9. They're planning on building
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 02:30 PM
Nov 2013

They're planning on building huge, advanced new space craft in space with it.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
15. If it gets more popular and the technology is refined,
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 04:05 PM
Nov 2013

It could do to package delivery what email did to snail mail.

dairydog91

(951 posts)
12. Any industry that requires bespoke equipment or instruments should be very interested.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 03:12 PM
Nov 2013

Plenty of areas where people need a highly-specialized, high-strength tool of some sort yet don't want to pay a master craftsman or get a special order through a factory.

dairydog91

(951 posts)
11. Wait, it bans printing?
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 03:08 PM
Nov 2013

So you can own the printer, whatever materials feed the printer, and a computer to download blueprints. You just can't print certain things. That'll do the trick. The Honor System will surely prove itself a viable method of enforcing prohibition laws.

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