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Auggie

(31,169 posts)
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 04:00 PM Nov 2013

Forget The 50 States; The U.S. Is Really 11 Nations, Author Says



For hundreds of years, this nation has been known as the United States of America. But according to author and journalist Colin Woodard, the country is neither united, nor made up of 50 states. Woodward has studied American voting patterns, demographics and public opinion polls going back to the days of the first settlers, and says that his research shows America is really made up of 11 different nations.

"Yankeedom" in the Northeast and industrial Midwest was founded by Puritans and residents there have always been comfortable with a government that regulates and moderates. The communities of the Deep South in Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia and other states were founded by former West Indian plantation owners who wanted to recreate the society they were used to: government based on the sacrosanct rights of a few wealthy elite. "Greater Appalachia," extending from West Virginia in a wide band to the northern half of Texas, was settled by people from Northern Ireland, England and Scotland. Those people were openly antagonistic to the so-called "ruling oligarchies" and upper classes, so they opposed the slave plantation economy, but they also distrust government.

Woodard says that while individual residents will have their own opinions, each region has become more segregated by ideology in recent years. In fact, he says the mobility of American citizens has increased this partisan isolation as people tend to self-segregate into like-minded communities.

"This isn't about individual behavior, it's about the characteristics of the dominant cultures of these various regions. And you can, as an individual, like or hate the sort of surrounding assumptions where you live," Woodard says. "But that force that you feel that's there, and those sort of assumptions and givens about politics, and culture, and different social relationships — that's the forces of dominant culture that go back to the early colonial period, and the differences between various colonial clusters and their founders."

More: http://www.npr.org/2013/11/11/244527860/forget-the-50-states-u-s-is-really-11-nations-says-author?utm_content=socialflow&utm_campaign=nprfacebook&utm_source=npr&utm_medium=facebook



Here's the Purple America 2012 Presidential Election Map from Princeton. Pretty interesting.





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Forget The 50 States; The U.S. Is Really 11 Nations, Author Says (Original Post) Auggie Nov 2013 OP
Wow, that's really interesting. Greetings from Yankeedom. Pathwalker Nov 2013 #1
Interesting theory el_bryanto Nov 2013 #2
I disagree with it. Mojorabbit Nov 2013 #3
Jacobs or Martinez zipplewrath Nov 2013 #5
Demographics are changing Mojorabbit Nov 2013 #6
I'm fascinated by these kinds of maps. nyquil_man Nov 2013 #4

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
2. Interesting theory
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 04:56 PM
Nov 2013

I don't know that I find the statement "that's the forces of dominant culture that go back to the early colonial period, and the differences between various colonial clusters and their founders." It seems like there have been numerous shocks to the various areas since colonial day

Bryant

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
3. I disagree with it.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 04:58 PM
Nov 2013

Central Fl is purple and should be blue or maybe part of the Caribbean mix. I live in Orange county which went blue and we have Alan Grayson. We definitely are not deep south.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
5. Jacobs or Martinez
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 05:42 PM
Nov 2013

Would that be the Orange County that elected Mel Martinez of Tereasa Jacobs?

There's alot of blue in Orlando, but not so much Winter Park, Apopka, or chunks of unicorporated Orange County. And just north of Grayson is Mica and Webster.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
6. Demographics are changing
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 07:59 PM
Nov 2013

I live in unincorporated OC and this area is definitely moving blue. Winter Park went blue in the past two prez elections.
http://www.homefacts.com/politics/Florida/Orange-County/Winter-Park.html
55% of Florida’s registered Democrats live in just 7 counties: Broward, Miami-Dade, Palm Beach, Hillsborough, Orange, Duval, and Pinellas. http://www.sayfiereview.com/page/Who%20and%20Where%20are%20Floridas%20Democrats%20and%20Republicans

so I still say they should have moved us out of the deep south.

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