"Biblical patriarchy" quiverfull leader cheats on his wife, organization shuts down

[Liberal_in_LA]

http://m.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/11/infidelity-scandal-just-shuttered-major-biblical-patriarchy-organization/71484/

An Infidelity Scandal Just Shuttered a Major 'Biblical Patriarchy' Organization
BY ABBY OHLHEISER   |   NOV 11, 2013
A major conservative Christian organization shuttered its doors on Monday after its president, Doug Phillips, resigned from his position in the wake of an extramarital affair. Phillips is an extremely influential leader in the "Biblical Patriarchy" movement, a wing of conservative evangelical Christianity that believes men should have "dominion" over women. Phillips and his organization, Vision Forum, are enormously active in a cluster of related ministries, including the Christian homeschooling movement. The group also advocates against access to birth control and abortion. Even if you don't know Vision Forum, you know some of its friends: Kirk Cameron, for one; the Duggars (pictured below), for another. 

Here's what happened. At the end of October, Phillips posted a stunning letter to Vision Forum Ministries's site, simultaneously confessing to a "lengthy" extramarital affair and resigning from the organization: "I engaged in a lengthy, inappropriate relationship with a woman," he wrote, adding, "while we did not 'know' each other in a Biblical sense, it was nevertheless inappropriately romantic and affectionate." Phillips essentially promised to stay away from speaking engagements and public appearances as a representative of the organization while he sought forgiveness. But it looks like Vision Forum, an organization nearly synonymous with Phillips himself, couldn't see a path forward without his presence. Here is the frank statement on the closure: u



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It is difficult to overstate how fundamentally an extramarital affair damaged Phillips's reputation in the short term. That's because Vision Forum's work centered around the "restoration of the Christian household." In short, the organization enforced what it would argue is a Biblicly-based family structure where the husband serves as the spiritual and practical head of the household. His wife and children, especially any daughters not yet of marrying age, live under his dominion. Phillips's family, like the well-known Duggars, were also practicing Quiverfull adherents. That movement holds up procreation as the highest calling for (properly married) women, meaning that Quiverfull families grow quite large. Phillips has eight children, and the Duggars have 19 kids. Adherents usually home-school their children, rejecting the notion that anyone but the family and God should have input into a child's education. Family is central to, and the mission of, Vision Forum's entire reason for existence. 

[LisaLynne]

1. I keep saying ...

He was just trying to keep his quiver full ... or fill more quivers with his arrow or ...

Yeah, nothing Freudian going on here AT ALL.

[yellowcanine]

7. Sometimes one quiver is just not enough to hold all the arrows one has to give.

Such a generous man wants to share the wealth.

[LisaLynne]

8. Hey, it's just God's will and all that.

What's a man to do?

[Gore1FL]

13. He should have had sex with Boeing

I understand they are a leader in the arrow-space industry.

[lastlib]

45. Or Southwest....

...they always pull out on time.....so they say..............

[freshwest]

21. You beat me to it! GMTA!

[calimary]

29. Sounds like he was trying to MAKE somebody quiver - full.

[LumosMaxima]

2. I love seeing hypocrites exposed. nt

[Skittles]

3. "we did not 'know' each other in a Biblical sense"

ya right

[russspeakeasy]

4. Thou did bang tho.

[Skittles]

5. STOP IT RUSSPEAKEASY

[yellowcanine]

9. Hast thou been filling another maid's quiver?

[russspeakeasy]

10. Glad I tuned in tonight !!! I needed the laugh !

[riqster]

6. That was no quiver..,

http://m.flickr.com/photos/skyzyx/249270409/lightbox/

[pipi_k]

24. What he really means...

is that they did everything but the Missionary position.

[kestrel91316]

34. ^^^THIS^^^

[Skittles]

39. STOP IT PIPI_K

YER KILLING ME

[hunter]

48. And they both came to god...

...so that makes it all right.

[awoke_in_2003]

53. just because a woman says...

"Oh god, oh god, oh god" does not mean she is getting filled with the spirit

[hunter]

55. The "spirit" of Doug Phillips maybe...

TMI.

I really don't want to know how he Biblically didn't "know" her.

[Rozlee]

30. Huh. Is that the same as "I did not have sexual relations with that woman?"

In the teen chastity movement, a majority of the kids admit to trying alternatives to biblical sex, such as oral and anal sex and mutual masturbation. They learn all the loopholes to keep their 'virginity' intact. I guess that it all depends on your definition of sex; whether it's biblical, legal or medical. If that guy didn't know her in the biblical sense, well...

[noiretextatique]

47. depends on what your definition of "is" is

bill!

[Rozlee]

50. !

[awoke_in_2003]

54. I remember when Bill Maher

said that oral was hugely popular because of chastity vows. He wondered why these things weren't around when he was in high school

[Rozlee]

56. I've read that the Chastity/Purity Movement is one that just gained real popularity

in the last couple of decades in the evangelical and anti-choice community as a backlash against feminism and what they consider "the breakdown of the American family," so it might not have been very wide-spread in his high school days. Too bad. Bill Maher talking about his high school Purity Prom would have been great comic fodder.

[awoke_in_2003]

57. I wasn't too clear, I'm afraid

He was lamenting the fact that they didn't exist, so he could have got more oral

[Rozlee]

58. Oh-kay.

[Swede Atlanta]

37. No, in order to know one another Biblically they would have to....

have their eyes open as he performed his "husbandly" duties to the submissive female.

[ck4829]

11. That is rich.

[Snarkoleptic]

12. "while we did not 'know' each other in a Biblical sense...."

Right! I'm sure they were playing Parcheesi during the "inappropriate relationship".



Some people never come clean
I think you know what I mean
You're walkin' the wire, pain and desire
Looking for love in between

[caseymoz]

14. I love it when poetic justice rhymes.

Goes to show that an asshole is really just a zero in disguise.

[NBachers]

15. Time for all these women to go on a Quiver's Revenge Rampage

[DeSwiss]

16. But doesn't the bible allow.....

...him to have as many wives as he can afford? I don't know about these fancy-shmancy modern interpretations of the bible that this guy's been reading, but if he's going according to the true and incontestable old testament bible beliefs, then he's only in the wrong if he doesn't pay the woman's father or whomever's in-charge of arranging his new hunnie's paramour schedule.

- If I remember correctly, I believe he owes the woman's father a cow and four chickens. As long as he didn't break anything. If he did, it'll be extra......

K&R

[fasttense]

63. Yes and why are they so into making women into baby factories?

"His wife and children, especially any daughters not yet of marrying age, live under his dominion."

In the bible it wasn't just the daughters the father controlled. He could put any of his infants onto the trash heap, to let them die of exposure, if he didn't want them. The father or one of the wives could murder their sons if the boy was a drunkard or unruly.

You would think if they were going to be a "biblical family" they would read up on how it really was during Jesus's day and age.

[ReRe]

17. I wish and hope it's contageous...

... i.e. the shutting down of these evil hypocritical fundamentalist organizations. They are nothing but mind-warping David Karesh-type cults. Any organization or "church" that closes the mind of even one person should be banned. They are nothing if not mind-closing factories.

[Rain Mcloud]

18. Don't forget...

General George Armstrong Custer wore Arrow shirts.

[SHRED]

19. "The difference between a cult and a religion...

...is the amount of real estate they own". ~Frank Zappa

[navarth]

33. great quote

may I steal it please? I wantz to add it to my collection.

[FiveGoodMen]

43. A different note on the same subject...

"With any cult, there's someone at the top who knows it's just a scam. With any religion, the guy who knew it was fake is dead now."

[alfredo]

20. Facebook the link

[muriel_volestrangler]

22. "Animal-hoarders are not animal-lovers"

If someone has five cats, I believe they love cats.

But if someone has 19 cats, I’m no longer convinced they love cats. I’m suspicious, rather, that they’re some kind of hoarder.
...
Perhaps such a person somehow needs cats. Perhaps they desire to control cats or to possess cats. But it does not seem likely that they love cats.

And that’s pretty much my take on the “Quiverfull” movement.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/11/12/animal-hoarders-are-not-animal-lovers/

[ChazInAz]

31. Good point.

But how does one "control cats"?

[zipplewrath]

32. Like the rain

The same way one controls the rain, or wind.

Dogs have owners, cats have staff.

[kestrel91316]

35. My two male cats come when I call, and jump up on furniture when I snap my fingers over it.

My female, OTOH........................

[zipplewrath]

38. They have you well trained

They have trained you well to let them know when you can pay attention to them....


"These aren't the drones we are looking for...."

[phantom power]

23. Patriarchs sleeping around is a feature of the patriarchy, not a bug

Patriarchy is *all* about men getting to do more or less whatever-the-fuck they want and women putting up with it, with a smile on their face for their Patriarch.

When people stop being surprised by this, our society will be making progress.

[love_katz]

61. Perfect description of patriarchy.

Blech!

May patriarchy fall, and the sooner the better.

[JimboBillyBubbaBob]

26. His lover must have been a nun,

and he got into the habit!

[factsarenotfair]

27. He's keeping the for-profit part of the organization.

No shame whatsoever.

[OregonBlue]

28. I'm skeptical. I bet he was stealing money from the organization and chose to claim he was leaving

over an affair. Someone should dig a little deeper on this one.

[weissmam]

36. OH well , I would have said I told you so.

so now they all go around looking like idiots , pretty funny .

In a side note I feel sorry for his kids that have been taight something all their lives , now have to find out out that their father didn't take it that seriously (LOL)

and he didn't know her in a biblical sense my ass

[sibelian]

40. How many more kinds of ridiculousness can the infinite sub-divisions of Christianity dream up?

I find the story unsurprising.

[FiveGoodMen]

44. There's no limit

If the only evidence required is "God told me this; trust me" then you can make up absolutely anything.

[Always Randy]

41. And February made me shiver-with every paper i delivered

and he was a giver, near the river, with a bad liver---maybe he'll be a straight arrow now

[frylock]

42. not really seeing a conflict in their mission statement

[noiretextatique]

49. no shit...what's the problem?

they believe men have "dominion," which means women and children are basically their property to with what the choose. perhaps there is more to this story.

[arely staircase]

46. sobhe thought he needed more than one quiver? nt

[TNNurse]

51. There is nothing quite more wonderful

than a sanctimonious phony and liar.

I LOVE THIS STORY.

[riderinthestorm]

52. Clearly she was a concubine! So a-ok with the Lord nt

[bluestate10]

59. Give him a break, his Quiver was full, he had to do something about it. People like that

can't make mistakes because they can't admit to making mistakes.

[LeftyMom]

60. The real reason they brought the hammer down is financial improprieties.

Money shifted from the non-profit to the for-profit rather freely. That Doug was eyeing the nanny, assuming it's true at all (he's pinged the entire internet's collective gaydar since forever) is almost certainly a diversion.

[TxDemChem]

62. So, I've been hanging out at No Longer Quivering

a lot in the past couple of weeks. I was wondering when something like this would happen. I hate hypocrisy.

[SoCalDem]

64. Don't worry..

His scorned wife & the quiverlings can apply for foodstamps now that his income stream has dried up

I can't see alimony & child support as a high priority for a rat like he is.....and the barracks they live in will probably go too if he cannot count on donations to keep paying for it all.

Maybe he can hit up his buddy, Kirk, for a donation.