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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 01:40 AM Nov 2013

'Gloves come off' as journalists debunk each other's Obamacare horror stories

http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/creating-a-framework-for-ethical-decision-making-among-journalists-and-those-who-care-about-democracy/229413/gloves-come-off-as-journalists-debunk-each-others-obamacare-horror-stories/

... Los Angeles Times columnist Michael Hiltzik is one of several journalists and bloggers who’ve taken it upon themselves to debunk “horror stories” about Obamacare, including Erik Wemple in The Washington Post, Eric Stern in Salon, and Paul Waldman in The American Prospect. They and other writers identified gaps in media reports about disgruntled consumers who appeared on “CBS This Morning,” Fox News’s “Hannity,” and other outlets.

“The whole concept of the media checking the media is a new phenomenon,” said Duke University professor Bill Adair, a Poynter adjunct faculty member who created the Politifact website.

... In the not-so-distant past, mainstream news organizations generally avoided direct criticism of their competitors’ journalism. While it wasn’t unusual for newspapers and broadcasters to follow up on other organizations’ reporting – and sometimes find errors in those earlier stories — such matters traditionally were handled relatively politely.

... But Hiltzik no longer sees the need for such restraint when calling out competing news organizations. As he sees it, the media now promote their stories more loudly, and some organizations tinge them with partisan politics.
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'Gloves come off' as journalists debunk each other's Obamacare horror stories (Original Post) Newsjock Nov 2013 OP
kick Dawson Leery Nov 2013 #1
K&R octoberlib Nov 2013 #2
It's about time. Cleita Nov 2013 #3
CBS TV and CBS radio DO need some serious fact checking. SoapBox Nov 2013 #4
+1! Yes! I was listening 1070 2 weeks ago, and heard the top of the news story: tofuandbeer Nov 2013 #5
I think you're referring to KNX 1070 Left Coast2020 Nov 2013 #6
"some organizations tinge them with partisan politics" Democat Nov 2013 #7
Michael Hiltzik of the LA Times has been doing a good journalist's job Hekate Nov 2013 #8
Ever since CBS made it big with Everybody Loves Raymond and King of Queens, their network news Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #9
Interesting to watch the wolves start feeding on each other. IrishAyes Nov 2013 #10
some comments 90-percent Nov 2013 #11

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
3. It's about time.
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 02:20 AM
Nov 2013

There are things to criticize about the program, but none of those have been about the feces slinging that is going on in the media. The fact is, that the biggest criticisms to throw at the ACA is that it's not single payer and it's a copy of Romney care that was an idea hatched by the Heritage Foundation that borrowed it from Bob Dole. It's a Republican health care idea. The Republican funded MSM should be praising it.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
4. CBS TV and CBS radio DO need some serious fact checking.
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 02:39 AM
Nov 2013

I was so damned mad, listening to a local traffic channel 1070AM in Los Angeles tonight, I was yelling at the radio in the car.

I am SO fucking tired of CBS running down the President and the ACA. They do nothing but call it Obamacare over and over and over, in a sarcastic tone.

This whole thing has become a bring-down-the-President march...and it's a dream come true for the PukeBaggers (my conspiracy theory!)

tofuandbeer

(1,314 posts)
5. +1! Yes! I was listening 1070 2 weeks ago, and heard the top of the news story:
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 02:47 AM
Nov 2013

how horrible the ACA website was. They mentioned it 3 times in 5 minutes.
A disgusting group of reporters. When I was growing up, 1070 was a great news station.

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
6. I think you're referring to KNX 1070
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 03:03 AM
Nov 2013

I believe you're correct. For a brief period I lived in L.A. (77/79) and did listen. Probably the first time I really listened to a News Station. But they are supposed to be the "pro's" as L.A. is the number 2 market inthe country.

Really sad when a major market station lets their audience down.

Anyone remember 94.7 KMET-The mighty Met? Mary Turner-The Burner? Paraquat Kelly?

OMG I'M GETTING TOO FRIGGIN OLD!!

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
8. Michael Hiltzik of the LA Times has been doing a good journalist's job
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 03:53 AM
Nov 2013

I really appreciate it -- it's just a damn shame it's not more common these days.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
9. Ever since CBS made it big with Everybody Loves Raymond and King of Queens, their network news
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 04:00 AM
Nov 2013

Has been in the trash can.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
11. some comments
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 09:48 AM
Nov 2013

It's organic checks and balances rising up from the muck that is our MSM.

Like MSM anti-bodies assimilating to fend off invading cancer cells. This could be one way to return back to some form of journalistic integrity, considering it's now perfectly legal to knowingly lie in your news broadcasts now.

And I say that for the vast majority of Americans that don't realize there is now no law requiring honesty in journalism. You, as a news consumer, are supposed to be so well informed that you as an individual determine your favorite news is pure bullshit and you have the choice as a consumer to pick a news source you consider to be of higher quality. Which is hard to do considering the six major corporations that own most of MSM are all reciting the same scripted propaganda.

And it is for the above reasons that I've been a daily DU reader since the 2003 Iraq invasion. At least around here there's so many links to alternative news that does an end run around Corporate MSM propaganda and still practices journalistic integrity.

I also think, based on the results of the recent elections, that average America is catching on pretty fast now about the magnitude of MSM bullshit propaganda they are bombarded with. Americans are using "social media" more like Egyptians and other repressed countries to overthrow their tyrannical leaders.

-90% Jimmy

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