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villager

(26,001 posts)
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 03:42 AM Nov 2013

John Kerry: I Have 'Serious Doubts That Lee Harvey Oswald Acted Alone'

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Regarding possible conspiracies, to this day I have serious doubts that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I certainly have doubts that he was motivated to do that by himself. I’m not sure if anybody else was involved. I don’t go down that road, with respect to the grassy knoll theory and all of that, but I have serious questions about whether they got to the bottom of Lee Harvey Oswald. I think he was inspired somewhere by something, but I can’t pin anything down on that. I’ve never spent a lot of time on it. But I think, after a certain period of time, and that period of time may well have passed, it is totally appropriate for a country like the United States to open up the files on whatever history can be shed light on. I think that is appropriate. It has to be done in the right way, by the right entities or people, but certainly by a valid historian or for some valid analysis; I think that everybody would benefit.

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http://www.parade.com/226397/parade/john-kerry-i-have-serious-doubts-that-lee-harvey-oswald-acted-alone-the-day-jfk-died/

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JI7

(89,279 posts)
2. he is talking about oswald's personal belief and motives here, he isn't claiming there were others
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 03:59 AM
Nov 2013

involved .

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
3. "I certainly have doubts that he was motivated to do that by himself. I’m not sure if anybody else..
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 04:08 AM
Nov 2013

...was involved."

He's not sure, you see.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
7. Motivated--who was the person who "motivated" him?
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 04:14 AM
Nov 2013

Perhaps that person is still alive, and that's why all the files haven't been released?

LuvNewcastle

(16,860 posts)
4. Whether Oswald shot Kennedy or if he was one of the shooters isn't
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 04:10 AM
Nov 2013

the important question to me. I'm not particularly interested in who actually fired the fatal shots. I want to know who put the shooter(s) up to it, because no one is going to convince me that this was just the result of the hatred of someone with a personal ax to grind. I think that's what Kerry means here, and I think that's what most people want to know. I don't think there are many Americans who believe the lone angry gunman theory.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
5. Three points:
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 04:10 AM
Nov 2013

1. "I don’t go down that road, with respect to the grassy knoll theory and all of that..."

Translation: Kerry thinks Oswald was the only shooter.

2. "I certainly have doubts that he was motivated to do that by himself. I’m not sure if anybody else was involved. I don’t go down that road, with respect to the grassy knoll theory and all of that, but I have serious questions about whether they got to the bottom of Lee Harvey Oswald. I think he was inspired somewhere by something, but I can’t pin anything down on that."

Did someone put Oswald up to it? That's Kerry's question. The HSCA ruled out organizational help from groups like the Soviets, the CIA, the anti-Castro Cuban exiles, the FBI, and so on - all the usual suspects. But they couldn't rule out individuals in either the exile community or the mob.

3. Any records still classified should be released. Why there's still a delay on this, I've no clue. My guess is that they are waiting for George H. W. Bush to die so they can reveal he was a CIA agent at the time. That wouldn't surprise me in the least. But like I say, I don't know.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
9. "I'm not sure if anybody else was involved"
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 04:15 AM
Nov 2013

That's different than saying "Nobody else was involved."

Kerry, at least, is willing to posit the questions, and wonder aloud about them.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
10. But not in the shooting part
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 04:30 AM
Nov 2013

The "inspiration" part is what Kerry means. The evidence of Oswald being the only shooter that day is pretty clear.

Warpy

(111,383 posts)
6. That's my main question, too
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 04:11 AM
Nov 2013

Oswald was the shooter and he was the only shooter. However, no one has ever displayed a motive.

Unless someone paid him to do it.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
13. Of course someone paid him and his wife.
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 06:53 AM
Nov 2013

You need to read Legacy of Secrecy by Thom Hartmann http://www.legacyofsecrecy.com/

It provides clear evidence that organized crime was not only involved in the murdered JFK but they also were responsible for the murders of MLK and Bobby Kennedy.

Does anyone wonder why all 3 very powerful, very liberal men were murdered almost back to back, in quick succession? It always bothered me. Thom Hartmann's book is the only one I have read that address why all 3 very great men were murdered.

Once you read it and the evidence that is compiled, you will wonder why you never saw it before. And they are going to make a movie out of it.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
14. Then where is the money?
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 08:02 AM
Nov 2013

The Oswalds had no money. They argued over money. If Oswald was paid, there would be some indication of a "windfall". Nobody has ever testified that the Oswalds suddenly came into a lot of money.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
11. So?
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 04:34 AM
Nov 2013

Does Kerry have some kind of special knowledge or insight that means we should pay attention to his "serious doubts"?

In fifty years there has been no credible evidence that Oswald did not act alone. Unfortunately, people somehow find it hard to believe that a lone assassin could kill a President. But it happens. It's happened before. John Wilkes Booth. Charles Guiteau. Leon Czolgosz.

Not to mention Gavrilo Princip, assassin of Archduke Ferdinand which started WWI.

It's important to note that most of these assassins were young men.

Princip was only 19. Oswald was 23. Booth was 26. Czolgosz was 28. Guiteau was a relatively old man at 40.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
16. Actually there is a ton of credible evidence.
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 10:57 AM
Nov 2013

It has just seldom been reinvestigated, and never with access to classified files.
There was never an open transparent investigation that the public has had access to.

BlueMTexpat

(15,374 posts)
12. I was 19 years old when JFK was shot
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 06:33 AM
Nov 2013

and will never forget the trauma and sorrow of that day and its aftermath. I also remember only too well what was happening in the USA at the time.

Because of what was happening then and having lived through what has happened since, like John Kerry, I have always had doubts that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. Ditto for Sirhan Sirhan, btw.

My mother and father, a WWII veteran, also had doubts about both JFK and RFK as long as they lived. So have most citizens of other countries on the globe. Overwhelmingly.

Yes, I sincerely believe that the country would benefit from all files being opened up and examined. For a nation that prides itself on "transparency," that is the least that should be done. It will have been 50 years ago, after all, from that infamous date. Let's FINALLY learn what needs to be learned.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
15. ''I heard the shots and thought they were coming from bushes of the overpass.'' - JM Smith, DPD
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 08:58 AM
Nov 2013

Joe Marshall Smith was not the only police officer who thought shots were fired from the Grassy Knoll.

Here is an excellent resource, with names, quotes and excerpts from interviews:

What 216 Witnesses to the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy reported to the Warren Commission.

http://www.history-matters.com/analysis/Witness/Index.htm

Another example:

"Sounded to me like a rifle and coming from the vicinity of Elm and Houston street... As we approached the building we were told the shots came from the fence... I continued towards the railroad yards." -- Allan Sweatt, Dallas Deputy Sheriff


Reading through the witness reports presents a different story than what the Warren Commission told.

Thanks for the heads-up, villager! I agree with Sen. Kerry.
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